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Are you going to the USA? Just make sure you've not said anything nasty about Trump or your phone might get searched and you won't be allowed in

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cakeorwine · 19/03/2025 22:42

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/trump-musk-french-scientist-detained

I wonder what he said in his private messages that were looked at when US Border Agents looked at his phone.

“I learned with concern that a French researcher” on assignment for the French National Center for Scientific Research (CNRS) “who was traveling to a conference near Houston was denied entry to the United States before being expelled”, Philippe Baptiste, France’s minister of higher education and research, said in a statement on Monday to Agence France-Presse published by Le Monde. “This measure was apparently taken by the American authorities because the researcher’s phone contained exchanges with colleagues and friends in which he expressed a personal opinion on the Trump administration’s research policy,” the minister added.

"Another AFP source said that US authorities accused the French researcher of “hateful and conspiratorial messages”. He was reportedly also informed of an FBI investigation, but told that “charges were dropped” before being expelled."

Clearly some people might need a burner phone. And be careful of your social media use.

French scientist denied US entry after phone messages critical of Trump found

France’s research minister said the scientist was traveling to Houston for a conference when his phone was searched

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/trump-musk-french-scientist-detained

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TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 21/03/2025 07:23

cakeorwine · 21/03/2025 07:18

And then sell your story to the Daily Mail with a sad face .

Almost worth the price of the flights?

Yes!

Ohthatsabitshit · 21/03/2025 07:24

I’m shocked they have the right to search your phone!

TorroFerney · 21/03/2025 07:25

Arrivals4lucky · 20/03/2025 20:43

They can take your phone and ask for the password and the codes and for access to your SM and passwords at entry points to USA.
You can refuse, within reason, but you might find yourself on the way straight back home with a no fly marker on your passport for any return to the USA.
behold the land of freedom.

That’s not an America thing though is it checking phones, That’s a border security thing.

TheCountofMountingCrispBags · 21/03/2025 07:26

ColourlessGreenIdeasSleepFuriously · 21/03/2025 06:25

This is a senior French researcher btw. It is not impossible he was up to no good but it would be like an Oxford don turning out to be a terrorist, highly unlikely.

Exactly! Oxford don more likely to be a spy than a terrorist!

WavyRavey · 21/03/2025 07:31

Wait till you find out that any country can actually deport you for comments against their leader or government :O

ThisAlertRaven · 21/03/2025 07:31

Lyannaa · 21/03/2025 04:47

I wonder how Americans genuinely feel knowing they now live under a fascist regime?

Vance is telling USA citizens that UK/Europe are dictatorships with no free speech and many in the US will believe him and think that they have it better... that is why Vance is constantly talking Europe down (also plays well for Putin, conveniently)

rosemarble · 21/03/2025 08:06

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 21/03/2025 04:53

The responses to this are ridiculous.

There is clearly far more to this story than the edit are telling us. And let’s be honest here, people always claim they’ve done nothing wrong.

Customs aren’t stopping random tourists and asking to check their phones and anyone who has called trump a twat is being deported. For this man’s phone to have been checked he clearly already raised red flags and was found to have messages which amount to terrorism. Funny how the media haven’t published them to prove just how easily someone going to disneyworld is going to be deported. That’s because there are more to the messages than we’re being told.

As for all the hysteria over going to America, I absolutely wouldn’t want to live there, my DS’ GF is American and I absolutely don’t want him to live there either. But this notion of boycotting a country because you don’t like Trump is ridiculous. The man is a moron, but he and his cronies are likely to be in charge now for the foreseeable. And America is America. It’s not like the foreign office is advising people not to travel. The media are doing a good job of whipping up hysteria though.

What do you think about this: https://nationalpost.com/news/canadian-woman-speaks-out-about-her-treatment-in-u-s-detention

Canadian woman speaks out about her treatment in U.S. detention

"We were bound in chains that wrapped tightly around our waists, our cuffed hands secured to our bodies and shackles restraining our feet."

https://nationalpost.com/news/canadian-woman-speaks-out-about-her-treatment-in-u-s-detention

AlisonDonut · 21/03/2025 08:22

WavyRavey · 21/03/2025 07:31

Wait till you find out that any country can actually deport you for comments against their leader or government :O

The UK even jails its citizens for it.

Mightymoog · 21/03/2025 08:23

cakeorwine · 21/03/2025 07:12

You agree they ask you for your social media details on the ESTA form.

Why do they ask for that?

You agree that they have the right to search your mobile devices when you want to enter the USA?

So if you had messages on your phone that were anti Trump and you were quite vocal on your social media about Trump - do you think that could cause a problem at border control?

UK customs also have the right to search your 'phoneand I assume most other countries

ColourlessGreenIdeasSleepFuriously · 21/03/2025 08:29

Are we banning senior academics and comics writers and expelling diplomats from friendly countries?

cakeorwine · 21/03/2025 08:32

Mightymoog · 21/03/2025 08:23

UK customs also have the right to search your 'phoneand I assume most other countries

And if the US Border and Immigration people searched it, looked at your social media and saw negative comments about Trump, then what could happen?

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XWKD · 21/03/2025 08:32

Trump is a cunt. Oops! There goes my trip to Vegas. Lucky me! 🤣

Petuniaspetal · 21/03/2025 08:38

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 21/03/2025 05:00

Links to the articles of holidaymakers who are routinely being deported for criticising trump? Oh wait. There aren’t any.

We’re talking about one person here. one person who was clearly up to no good if the article linked to above is anything to go by.

But the rabbit hole dwellers and the gutter press are anxious to whip this into a frenzy about how if you go and see Mickey Mouse your phone will be searched and if you’ve said anything anti trump you’ll be deported when there is 0 evidence to support that.

the people buying into this shit are akin to the Covid conspiracy theorists and the flat earth brigade.

The UK, and the world, are dealing with an entirely different and ruthless government and President. Trumps pettiness is renowned, he has a list of people he is currently seeking revenge on. A list that Biden felt the need to give preemptive pardons to. Even if his accusations have no basis, all trump has to do is sue them and the accused end up bankrupt from the legal process of defending themselves. He doesn't care.

There is a reason people don't routinely go on holiday to Iran or Iraq because they have no diplomatic sway, imagine inadvertently breaking the law in the USA, well Dick-tator trump would enjoy lording it over any country (except Russia) if asked for diplomatic leniency. But imagine if all over your instagram, tiktok, facebook you are sticking it to trump...yeah ....don't expect him/them to be reasonable.

AlisonDonut · 21/03/2025 08:39

ColourlessGreenIdeasSleepFuriously · 21/03/2025 08:29

Are we banning senior academics and comics writers and expelling diplomats from friendly countries?

The latest report is that this isn't about his comments on anyone.

JohnTheRevelator · 21/03/2025 08:40

Good grief. The USA is starting to resemble North Korea.

Abhannmor · 21/03/2025 08:45

Avoid all the grief by going to Canada 🍁 instead.

Mightymoog · 21/03/2025 08:46

cakeorwine · 21/03/2025 08:32

And if the US Border and Immigration people searched it, looked at your social media and saw negative comments about Trump, then what could happen?

I would imagine absolutely nothing unless i had already been flagged as a person of interest.
What do you think would happen if uk customs searched your 'phone and found messages slating our government?

Mightymoog · 21/03/2025 08:46

Ohthatsabitshit · 21/03/2025 07:24

I’m shocked they have the right to search your phone!

mostcustome world wide have the right to

Ponoka7 · 21/03/2025 08:49

Everyone needs to watch the border security programme, nothing to declare. Everywhere outside of Ireland is overly aggressive. The Irish one looks like a spoof documentary, by comparison.

AlisonDonut · 21/03/2025 08:50

JohnTheRevelator · 21/03/2025 08:40

Good grief. The USA is starting to resemble North Korea.

There is no way that anyone in the UK can talk about the USA being like North Korea when people are jailed for social media posts.

FiveBarGate · 21/03/2025 08:50

britinnyc · 20/03/2025 20:59

I despise the President and live in the U.S. but there has to be more to this story than they just randomly searched his phone, he must have been somehow flagged for something. If you have ever flown into the U.S. there are barely enough people to even check passports let alone look through peoples phones and understand things that I am assuming were in another language. Concerning nonetheless but I do suspect a lot of these things have always happened we are just getting a lot of press coverage because of Trump’s crackdowns. The UK travel warning basically just says follow the rules so it isn’t like they are telling people not to travel

This. Millions of people have anti trump sentiments on social media or private messages.

But if it crosses over into the 'if I had a gun I'd shoot him' type sentiment then it arguably becomes something else. I also suspect many people have expressed this with zero intention of doing any such thing but if you had messages of that kind about anyone else then you might expect it to be taken seriously.

There will undoubtedly be more too this than calling him an orange nut job.

Dweetfidilove · 21/03/2025 08:51

I have to be there soon so will clean up my WhatsApp 🤦🏾‍♀️

curious79 · 21/03/2025 08:53

When you apply for your ESTA you have to provide your social media handles. Yes, you do need to be concerned.

Divebar2021 · 21/03/2025 08:54

I’m quite prepared to believe that there was more to the French scientist than we know but I don’t believe for one minute they genuinely believe that anything he was saying was “terrorist “ in nature. A German tourist was detained for over 2 weeks because she was travelling with tattooing equipment so there’s no way in hell they would simply be sending a potential terrorist back. If they had any evidence of terrorism he would be in detention.

PensionMention · 21/03/2025 08:54

SIL as an English tourist was detained in America in the early 1990’s for not having the correct visa, bit complicated to explain but was an error on her part.

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