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To not use proper spellings when naming your child

934 replies

Catterpillarsflipflops · 19/03/2025 18:17

Am I being unreasonable to think it's ridiculous to use a funky spelling of a normal name. I spent today dealing with lost paperwork for a child as the person that took the details didn't think to check the spelling as there is no other spelling of the name.

It looks silly and just causes no end of problems for the child. It also disadvantages them as straight away people get an image of what the child is like.

I've seen

Jaymz
Ezmay
Lil-leigh

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honeylulu · 21/03/2025 12:13

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/03/2025 12:08

Or would have been easier for people to recognise that not all names that sound English are actually English.

Yes i agree. It was just a bit strange that they "gave in" and used the English spelling as the known as name rather than keeping the spelling of their heritage. I'm all for learning and accepting the different heritage of others. I hope i didn't imply otherwise.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/03/2025 12:20

honeylulu · 21/03/2025 12:13

Yes i agree. It was just a bit strange that they "gave in" and used the English spelling as the known as name rather than keeping the spelling of their heritage. I'm all for learning and accepting the different heritage of others. I hope i didn't imply otherwise.

No, it was clear you were just pointing out the hassle they created for themselves. It's just unfortunate that micro acts of racism (which this is) caused them to feel like they had to do that.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying spelling it Tina is an act of racism. However, once you have been corrected, it is a micro act of racism to not at least make an effort to spell/pronounce it correctly.

I have yet to meet an english person who can pronounce my name correctly. However, most try and that is all I ask. The person who informed me she preferred her pronunciation of my name and would continue to use that was, I believe, being racist. She was a lovely woman otherwise and would probably have been shocked if I told her that.

Hoppinggreen · 21/03/2025 13:48

The majority of my clients are from Overseas, many from Asia.
The first time I speak to them I get them to tell me how to pronounce their name properly and what they prefer to be called. I write them down phonetically in their file and make damn sure I get it right to their faces.
Its not actually very hard to do if you want to.

Glittertwins · 21/03/2025 14:00

tulippa · 19/03/2025 18:34

I work somewhere where there is a sign to contact Kacper if you need a certain thing doing. I spent months thinking that's an unusual name until I realised it was a funky spelling of Casper. Parents obviously didn't know the letter c only makes 's' when followed by i, e or y.

Edited

Not if the parents are Polish. Totally normal spelling.

Whoshotjr · 21/03/2025 14:01

Ah seriously 😂

x2boys · 21/03/2025 14:01

Glittertwins · 21/03/2025 14:00

Not if the parents are Polish. Totally normal spelling.

This is like cancel the cheque 🤣

Glittertwins · 21/03/2025 14:02

x2boys · 21/03/2025 14:01

This is like cancel the cheque 🤣

My fault for not RTFT!!

SinnerBoy · 21/03/2025 14:32

Like about 100 other posters!
😆

Glittertwins · 21/03/2025 14:47

Oh well…that will teach me 😉

notedbiscuits · 21/03/2025 14:51

Kids bully other kids. If your kid has a stupid name, expect them to be bullied. Also please don't give a name which rhymes with surname.

A school friend married her OH who has a surname which rhymes and sounds a mouthful. She kept her maiden name.

Ilikeadrink14 · 21/03/2025 14:53

Gemini29 · 19/03/2025 19:29

Side note - but the name llacey with a welsh Ll is actually growing on me 🤣🤣

But are you going to pronounce it the Welsh way too? 😀. LL has a very distinctive sound.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/03/2025 14:56

Ilikeadrink14 · 21/03/2025 14:53

But are you going to pronounce it the Welsh way too? 😀. LL has a very distinctive sound.

Can I ask what is the welsh way of pronouncing it? I'm not British so hopefully that will excuse my ignorance😀

Ilikeadrink14 · 21/03/2025 14:58

Hoppinggreen · 21/03/2025 13:48

The majority of my clients are from Overseas, many from Asia.
The first time I speak to them I get them to tell me how to pronounce their name properly and what they prefer to be called. I write them down phonetically in their file and make damn sure I get it right to their faces.
Its not actually very hard to do if you want to.

Is that REALLY racism, or just very rude? I can’t see the racist element at all.

Annascaul · 21/03/2025 15:01

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/03/2025 12:20

No, it was clear you were just pointing out the hassle they created for themselves. It's just unfortunate that micro acts of racism (which this is) caused them to feel like they had to do that.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying spelling it Tina is an act of racism. However, once you have been corrected, it is a micro act of racism to not at least make an effort to spell/pronounce it correctly.

I have yet to meet an english person who can pronounce my name correctly. However, most try and that is all I ask. The person who informed me she preferred her pronunciation of my name and would continue to use that was, I believe, being racist. She was a lovely woman otherwise and would probably have been shocked if I told her that.

Not excusing how they behaved, but racist?? No.

tulippa · 21/03/2025 15:09

Glittertwins · 21/03/2025 14:00

Not if the parents are Polish. Totally normal spelling.

Yes I have already been corrected by multiple people. Thank you. I learnt something new on Wednesday. 🙂 (Sorry could resist!)

Glittertwins · 21/03/2025 15:10

Couldn’t resist… 😉

Hoppinggreen · 21/03/2025 15:11

Ilikeadrink14 · 21/03/2025 14:58

Is that REALLY racism, or just very rude? I can’t see the racist element at all.

No Idea, I haven't mentioned Racism

Ilikeadrink14 · 21/03/2025 15:22

Message for OchonAgusOchonOh
🤣 I was so hoping you wouldn’t ask that! It involves a lot of ‘tongue behind front teeth’ shenanigans! It’s difficult to describe, but if you say ‘th’ with an ‘l’ on the end, (so ‘thl’) it’s pretty close. Don’t worry too much! You need to worry when someone asks you to pronounce
‘Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyndrobwllllantysilliogogogoch‘!. That is a village in Wales and it’s no wonder even the locals call it ‘Llanfair pg’! My Nan was Welsh and she taught me to say it when I was small and I’ve never forgotten it.
As for pronunciation, if you enter the name of the town as a search on Google followed by the word ‘pronounce’ it will say it for you. You need to turn the volume up, of course.

SinnerBoy · 21/03/2025 15:26

Glittertwins · Today 14:47

Oh well…that will teach me 😉

I doubt that there's a single poster here, who hasn't jumped to the end of a thread and then seen that a correction has already been issued...

Guilty as charged!

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/03/2025 15:36

Annascaul · 21/03/2025 15:01

Not excusing how they behaved, but racist?? No.

I can only assume you have not been victim to the myriad micro aggressions experienced in the UK daily by the average Irish person (I can only speak from personal experience so can speak for other nationalities/ethnicities). It's always just a bit of banter / it's too hard to say etc etc.

Racism also refers nationality from a legal perspective.

JHound · 21/03/2025 15:39

Catterpillarsflipflops · 19/03/2025 18:17

Am I being unreasonable to think it's ridiculous to use a funky spelling of a normal name. I spent today dealing with lost paperwork for a child as the person that took the details didn't think to check the spelling as there is no other spelling of the name.

It looks silly and just causes no end of problems for the child. It also disadvantages them as straight away people get an image of what the child is like.

I've seen

Jaymz
Ezmay
Lil-leigh

Some people want to be creative and like you I hate that.

But there are some people who like a name but have no idea how it is spelled and never bothered to look it up.

I knew a Shevonne and it was not a creative spelling on purpose. Her parents just had realised that it’s spelled “Siobhan”. They registered it as they heard it. She said they discovered years later when they were discussing it with somebody.

Annascaul · 21/03/2025 15:41

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/03/2025 15:36

I can only assume you have not been victim to the myriad micro aggressions experienced in the UK daily by the average Irish person (I can only speak from personal experience so can speak for other nationalities/ethnicities). It's always just a bit of banter / it's too hard to say etc etc.

Racism also refers nationality from a legal perspective.

I am an Irish person (with an Irish name, to boot) living in London, and no, my life is not a constant onslaught of micro aggressions.
Maybe it’s the company I keep?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/03/2025 16:35

Annascaul · 21/03/2025 15:41

I am an Irish person (with an Irish name, to boot) living in London, and no, my life is not a constant onslaught of micro aggressions.
Maybe it’s the company I keep?

As I said previously, most english are perfectly reasonable people. A lot of the micro aggressions are not from people I would generally hang around with. It's the "banter" that is micro aggressive. I also lived in England in the 80's when it was outright aggression, rather than micro aggressions.

Perhaps you have just accepted the claims that it's "just a bit of fun" and not to do so would be a lack of sense of humour on your part.

RominaDina · 21/03/2025 16:44

Glittertwins · 21/03/2025 14:00

Not if the parents are Polish. Totally normal spelling.

I do wonder if people have mentioned this since Wednesday, in order to inform @tulippa ?
Perhaps she would be grateful.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 21/03/2025 17:11

Ilikeadrink14 · 21/03/2025 15:22

Message for OchonAgusOchonOh
🤣 I was so hoping you wouldn’t ask that! It involves a lot of ‘tongue behind front teeth’ shenanigans! It’s difficult to describe, but if you say ‘th’ with an ‘l’ on the end, (so ‘thl’) it’s pretty close. Don’t worry too much! You need to worry when someone asks you to pronounce
‘Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyndrobwllllantysilliogogogoch‘!. That is a village in Wales and it’s no wonder even the locals call it ‘Llanfair pg’! My Nan was Welsh and she taught me to say it when I was small and I’ve never forgotten it.
As for pronunciation, if you enter the name of the town as a search on Google followed by the word ‘pronounce’ it will say it for you. You need to turn the volume up, of course.

Maybe I'll just wait until I need to learn...

It's interesting the way Welsh, Breton and Cornish got all the consonants while Irish, Scottish and Manx got all the vowels in the alphabet division in Celtic languages.