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Benefit cuts proposal

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Charliechoosecarefully · 18/03/2025 13:35

I just wanted it to have a specific thread:-

Kendall says government to consult on merging JSA and ESA benefits.

Kendall says WCA being scrapped, with Pip assessment process being used instead - will be scrapped in 2028.

Kendall says 'right to try' will let people on sickness benefits try work without immediately having benefits cut.

Kendall says UC payments being rebalanced, with standard rate going up, and some health top-ups frozen or cut.

Kendall says reassessments for people on universal credit with health top-ups to be beefed up

Kendall says universal credit claimants with most severe disabilities will not face reassessment

Kendall confirms Pip eligibility rules to be tightened, and assessment process to be reviewed - 4 pointed needed in one descriptor.

Kendall says under-22s could be prevented from claiming health top-up for universal credit

Sourced from the guardian.

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PandoraSox · 18/03/2025 16:19

GeneHuntsCowboyBoots · 18/03/2025 15:48

I am sooooo utterly foggy with trying to read everything and I cannot take anything in properly - please can you tell me what it means for me.

I am currently receiving Contributions based ESA in the support group. I have been since 2016, without reassessment (so always been on the same ‘type’).

Does this mean I will go on to the new time limited version and lose it after however long (because my husband works), or does it mean I will stay as I am (assuming I don’t magically get better) because I am a current claimant and not a new one?

Thank you if you’re able to answer!

Edited

If you look at this para it says the indefinite entitlement to cont based ESA would end "for new people claiming" which indicates existing claimants will not be affected.

Benefit cuts proposal
Bignanna · 18/03/2025 16:20

Jaehee · 18/03/2025 15:50

An obvious solution would have been to get rid of the triple lock, which costs £11bn per year https://news.sky.com/story/pensions-triple-lock-adds-11bn-a-year-to-public-spending-report-12956841

You’re not a state pensioner, I take it?
Pensioners have a fixed income, no bonuses no overtime. A “large” increase is actually a small amount and swiftly gobbled up in increases in the cost of living.
There are other ways to save money, eg interpreter services for immigrants, sending large sums to other countries which don’t need it, Milliband’s project zero to name but a few.

Cowabunga33 · 18/03/2025 16:20

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:17

It is plenty and equates roughly to those healthy benefits claimants. We have millions of children and elderly people, so they can’t count in the numbers. Every adult unless severely disabled should be contributing.

Our population is not 80 million either so that is not accurate.

Edited

Well according to online records 22.6 million claimed in 2023 so god knows what the figure is now so that leaves 21.6 million people without available roles according to your figures…….

Canaryhead · 18/03/2025 16:20

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Annajones101 · 18/03/2025 16:20

So basically hardly any change and the outrageous spending continues.

She should have gone much further. Over 9 million people of working age not being in work and on benefits is simply unacceptable.

PandoraSox · 18/03/2025 16:21

Orangesandlemons77 · 18/03/2025 16:06

That doesn't say anything about new claims only? Sorry I am a bit confused on this.

See my post at 16:19

TigerRag · 18/03/2025 16:21

PIPnamechanged · 18/03/2025 16:13

It it’s important in the sense of leaving nothing to chance - nobody can argue with black and white evidence. I’d absolutely encourage people to send the best they have.

My point is, though, that it’s not essential. You can still be successful without it. There was a shift to not placing so much weight on the physical evidence during and after the pandemic. People couldn’t get copies, couldn’t get them scanned, GPs were only seeing emergencies etc. Even when we do get evidence from a GP (known as a GP Factual Report), consideration has to be given as to whether the GP has written everything or maybe missed something out.

They will argue with evidence from a GP and consultant. My GP wrote that I'm registered partially sighted. The "nurse" assessing me said that wasn't true and I'd chosen not to drive. On a good day corrected, I can read 3 lines of the eye chart. You need to be able to read at least another 2.

I was also told that the letter from my audiologist was faked and there's no reason why I need hearing therapy...she then asked what one of my diagnoses were. She did claim that I'd grown out of one of my hearing impairments. There's no cure or treatment for the damaged hair in my ears

And I've got the same bullshit to look forward to next year when I'm reassessed

Cowabunga33 · 18/03/2025 16:22

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:17

It is plenty and equates roughly to those healthy benefits claimants. We have millions of children and elderly people, so they can’t count in the numbers. Every adult unless severely disabled should be contributing.

Our population is not 80 million either so that is not accurate.

Edited

What do you think the population of the UK is then exactly??

Thatusernamewastaken · 18/03/2025 16:22

Maybe we could rejoin the biggest trade block on our doorstep, for which the cost of leaving has been estimated to be £140billion, reaching £310billion by 2035, instead of scrambling around the back of the sofa to save under 0.5% of public spending while going after people with barely anything and struggling to get by as it is.
Oh, sorry, crazy idea, people are bored of mentioning it now because something something never admit you were wrong/we have to move ‘forwards’ etc

chipmonkmusic · 18/03/2025 16:24

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 18/03/2025 14:04

Then employers need to pay more - the question is will they?

How can they ?

Although there were some exemptions or relief for the smallest firms, the increase to National Insurance will have big cost implications for businesses.

It comes as firms also face having to pay higher minimum wages, higher business rates, as well as the cost of adapting to new workers' rights under new laws.

So businesses will have less cash to give pay rises and create new jobs.

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:24

Cowabunga33 · 18/03/2025 16:22

What do you think the population of the UK is then exactly??

69,551,000 - so approaching 70 million. You are exaggerating for effect and it’s inaccurate.

PIPnamechanged · 18/03/2025 16:24

TigerRag · 18/03/2025 16:21

They will argue with evidence from a GP and consultant. My GP wrote that I'm registered partially sighted. The "nurse" assessing me said that wasn't true and I'd chosen not to drive. On a good day corrected, I can read 3 lines of the eye chart. You need to be able to read at least another 2.

I was also told that the letter from my audiologist was faked and there's no reason why I need hearing therapy...she then asked what one of my diagnoses were. She did claim that I'd grown out of one of my hearing impairments. There's no cure or treatment for the damaged hair in my ears

And I've got the same bullshit to look forward to next year when I'm reassessed

Who told you the letter was faked? Did they write that down anywhere?

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 18/03/2025 16:24

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:17

It is plenty and equates roughly to those healthy benefits claimants. We have millions of children and elderly people, so they can’t count in the numbers. Every adult unless severely disabled should be contributing.

Our population is not 80 million either so that is not accurate.

Edited

No, it is less than half the healthy on UC and actively looking for work. This excludes the healthy who were previously not expected to look for work- single parents of under 2s etc

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:25

Thatusernamewastaken · 18/03/2025 16:22

Maybe we could rejoin the biggest trade block on our doorstep, for which the cost of leaving has been estimated to be £140billion, reaching £310billion by 2035, instead of scrambling around the back of the sofa to save under 0.5% of public spending while going after people with barely anything and struggling to get by as it is.
Oh, sorry, crazy idea, people are bored of mentioning it now because something something never admit you were wrong/we have to move ‘forwards’ etc

That’s not going to pay for our out of control benefits bill duh, that will only add to it as millions move back here and claim child and housing benefits again!! Goodness me this is insane.

Cowabunga33 · 18/03/2025 16:25

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:24

69,551,000 - so approaching 70 million. You are exaggerating for effect and it’s inaccurate.

That was in 2023 luv……2 years ago now!!

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 18/03/2025 16:26

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:24

69,551,000 - so approaching 70 million. You are exaggerating for effect and it’s inaccurate.

You’re exaggerating the number of and availability of jobs.

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:26

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 18/03/2025 16:26

You’re exaggerating the number of and availability of jobs.

Nope you are lying about the population figures.

LokiDoki75 · 18/03/2025 16:27

I currently receive the enhanced PIP rates for both daily living needs and mobility. Under the new rules it looks like I won’t qualify for the daily living element at all any more because I scored 2 and 3 on everything in that category. I’m worried sick.

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:27

LokiDoki75 · 18/03/2025 16:27

I currently receive the enhanced PIP rates for both daily living needs and mobility. Under the new rules it looks like I won’t qualify for the daily living element at all any more because I scored 2 and 3 on everything in that category. I’m worried sick.

Why can’t you work? Your scores are fairly good.

nevertrustanyoneagain · 18/03/2025 16:27

I have 12 in on category on mobility, but lots of 3's in the care. Both my adult children provide care. One descriptor I score 1 on is actually my highest care need. I have ongoing award too, so depressing as I am working part time from home and not well enough to increase my hours. So stressful. I bloody hate this government. My 94 mil froze this winter, and I feel bloody guilty we couldn't help her more.

Cnidarian · 18/03/2025 16:28

DenholmElliot11 · 18/03/2025 13:47

I think it's time we all started weening ourselves off top-ups and UC to be honest. Best to try and earn enough not to need it. We've been on it for 30 years now and they can take it away at any time.

I agree! Be great to see all employers prioritise paying a Living Wage over shareholder profits! Will we see it happen this way though?

PandoraSox · 18/03/2025 16:28

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:27

Why can’t you work? Your scores are fairly good.

PIP is paid regardless of whether someone is on work or not.

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:29

PandoraSox · 18/03/2025 16:28

PIP is paid regardless of whether someone is on work or not.

That needs to stop straight away.

Baconmaple · 18/03/2025 16:29

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:29

That needs to stop straight away.

Why?

Cowabunga33 · 18/03/2025 16:30

Longsummerdays25 · 18/03/2025 16:26

Nope you are lying about the population figures.

Regardless of 10 million deficit according to you, you’re still stating there are 1 million jobs available yet 22.6 million were claiming in 2023 alone, so where are the 21.6 million other people working????

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