Benefit cuts proposal

[Charliechoosecarefully]

I just wanted it to have a specific thread:-

Kendall says government to consult on merging JSA and ESA benefits.

Kendall says WCA being scrapped, with Pip assessment process being used instead - will be scrapped in 2028.

Kendall says 'right to try' will let people on sickness benefits try work without immediately having benefits cut.

Kendall says UC payments being rebalanced, with standard rate going up, and some health top-ups frozen or cut.

Kendall says reassessments for people on universal credit with health top-ups to be beefed up

Kendall says universal credit claimants with most severe disabilities will not face reassessment

Kendall confirms Pip eligibility rules to be tightened, and assessment process to be reviewed - 4 pointed needed in one descriptor.

Kendall says under-22s could be prevented from claiming health top-up for universal credit

Sourced from the guardian.

Apologies, I missed your earlier post.

If you don’t provide any medical evidence you have fuck all chance. Even people who send lots fail. The ex assessors who have commented in the media and on here actually - all underline the importance of it.

For every anecdotal story you have of someone getting PIP with no evidence there are 100s of verified cases of people with serious illness and medical evidence being declined.

I am sooooo utterly foggy with trying to read everything and I cannot take anything in properly - please can you tell me what it means for me.

I am currently receiving Contributions based ESA in the support group. I have been since 2016, without reassessment (so always been on the same ‘type’).

Does this mean I will go on to the new time limited version and lose it after however long (because my husband works), or does it mean I will stay as I am (assuming I don’t magically get better) because I am a current claimant and not a new one?

Thank you if you’re able to answer!

This is the exact point I was making, sorry if it was badly worded.

Posters on this thread have been suggesting that it's almost impossible to fraudulently claim PIP because you need medical evidence. My point is that evidence the GP would provide around diagnosis and treatment is the evidence. That is all genuine and fraudulent claimants can often provide alongside evidence from other medical professionals. That's why it's so difficult to distinguish genuine claimants from fraudulent ones and why the DWP has no idea how many fraudulent claims have been submitted. They don't install spy cameras around your house and observe you for a month to see what you are and aren't capable of.

An obvious solution would have been to get rid of the triple lock, which costs £11bn per year https://news.sky.com/story/pensions-triple-lock-adds-11bn-a-year-to-public-spending-report-12956841

The. The number on benefits continues to rise until even that doesn’t cover it. What then?

In fact that wouldn’t even cover the rise for 5 years

It’s not a question of what makes me feel better it’s a question of whether you actually have any evidence to support your wild claims.

I have not disputed it’s possible to exaggerate conditions - but it is difficult to get medical evidence to support exaggerated symptoms.

I’m not sure if I’m right , but I was told that while my child in full time education the only thing I could claim for her was PIP. I’m not claiming UC myself so maybe it affects the situation as well.

What's my wild claim?

You'll be pleased to know I've just rung DWP and got through almost straight away. I've told them to cancel all my claims, PIP, Esa, etc which they are doing from today's date, so I'll no longer be costing you any money :-)

I suspect that’s next.

The projected cost of even keeping the NHS standing still is eye watering. Not to mention the cost of future defence and the burgeoning number of elderly requiring a huge amount of help and support.

Are you feeling okay? I thought you said you were disabled, and so I’m not sure why you are concerned in the first place.

The number of people receiving the state pension benefit continues to rise. It could cost £45bn a year by 2050 according to the IFS. What then?

The state pension age will go up and up until the benefit no longer exists, for one thing.

Find welfare cuts an odd one to go after, both for cost savings and the metrics of being a ‘labour’ government.
The country spends £100billion a year servicing national debt, £50bil on defence and £150billion on pensions, but they want to shave off £5billion from some of the most vulnerable….

In which case you have misunderstood my point.

You need medical evidence of diagnosis, conditions and treatment to claim PIP. Fraudulent claimants do not have that evidence. You can pitch up and claim you can’t walk and write a diary about sitting in a chair, but without any supporting evidence as to why and how and when diagnosed - it’s entirely unevidenced and almost certain to fail.

Genuinely curios, not in a judgy way at all - was you DD part time in the office before covid or was she WFH?
Can she continue the same number of days in the office as before covid and WFH the rest?

Read your back posts?

Thing is are there going to be enough jobs for everyone moving forward, many women moving to online creative jobs but then the market becomes flooded with them, supermarkets etc switching to self service, I know many brickies etc out of work because houses just aren’t selling……where is the work coming from to support everyone? I personally think we’re all screwed moving forwards……….

Exactly. We are still fucked whatever. And this amount is just state pension not to mention the huge numbers continuing on PIP into retirement age and all those claiming Attendance allowance and all the extra pension credits that can come with it in some cases. the benefits bill for those over state pension age must be massive.

Its not that I can't remember what I've written. I just know what you've deemed to be a 'wild' claim. That's inherently subjective so that's why I'm asking what you think it is.

You have to service debt, it’s not optional. We definitely need defence so not optional. You can’t not pay for people’s pensions! But there are so many healthy people claiming benefits, when they should be working, so I can see why they have chosen this - yes.

@pizzaHeart currently, disabled young people in receipt of PIP and in full time education can receive UC if LCW/LCWRA is established prior to the start of the course. Once aged 20 and in full-time non-advanced education, it can be possible to claim without having established LCW/LCWRA before the start of the course. This booklet and this webpage from Contact explains more.

She is an independent married woman with a child (born before she was disabled). Not many "parents, or aunt, or cousin" have enough space in their own homes to comfortably house another family with a growing child and commit to that permanently.

Her husband works long hours to keep them afloat. We support where we can.

At the moment there are nearly a million job vacancies that could be filled. You can’t second guess what might happen in the future. At the moment the jobs are available.