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To make a complaint about this head of year

142 replies

Newfoundzestforlife · 13/03/2025 16:30

Today in assembly at my child's school...
Child tells head of year that he has foxes in his garden at night and they sound like a child dying. Head of year replies "If only!" Then she apparently smirked at another teacher saying "Yes I did just say that".
My 13 daughter knew how wrong that was.
This head of year has form for saying really inappropriate things, very odd woman, but wishing death on kids? Why work with them if she hates them that much?

OP posts:
Louielooiloveyou · 13/03/2025 17:11

Why not open up a conversation with your daughter around why the HOY may have said that. What school life is like for them as a job. Rather than going on the defensive

i do agree though it is a rather near knuckle thing to say in school assembly

after acknowledging her upset of course

MrsFaustus · 13/03/2025 17:15

Oh lord, no wonder schools struggle to recruit. My children would have laughed at the HoY’s ‘joke’.

Moonnstars · 13/03/2025 17:16

YABU.
Child made an inappropriate comment. HOY (perhaps poorly) tried to cover this up by making a joke out of it.
I highly doubt they wish children dead and if your child is level headed which I think you say they are then they would realise this.

NiftyKoala · 13/03/2025 17:16

Seriously???

BlueBatsAndOranges · 13/03/2025 17:17

justlookatours · 13/03/2025 16:44

I don’t think either were inappropriate.

Child dying - screaming and high pitched, descriptive not factual. Macabre simile but no big thing. HOY made a joke.

Everyone needs to chill the fuck out!

This ^
Why must everyone take offence at everything these days, and then complain? It’s exhausting.

EG94 · 13/03/2025 17:17

pathetic!

Ritzybitzy · 13/03/2025 17:18

It’s a JOKE.

Complain all you want but you will be placated to your face and mocked behind your back.

OldCottageGreenhouse · 13/03/2025 17:20

Snorlaxo · 13/03/2025 16:48

Both comments were inappropriate.

When my dd was about y2, we had foxes whose screams used to scare her at night. I explained that it was sex noises which amused my dd to the extent that she told everyone the next day. I was judged for telling her but she was never scared of the noises after finding out.

WTF? Your Year 2 child knew what sex was? In year 2?? That's disturbing. More disturbing than anything in the OP.

sunstreaming · 13/03/2025 17:20

The child who made the 'like a chid dying' remark was actually accurate. That's what I thought when I first heard foxes mating behaviour which happens at this time of year. The HOY was incorrect in her response: she should have responded to the child making the statement something like, 'Yes, that is what foxes sound like and it is frightening/disturbing. But you don't need to worry because nothing bad was happening.' What she actaully did was use it as an excuse to express her supressed (but not deeply enough) feelings and frustrations about schoolchildren, which was unprofessional. And as far as the 'traumatised' replies go: someone doesn't have to be traumatised by a remark for it to be a bad thing. That teacher's remark was poorly judged and in bad taste and she knew it, because she tried to 'style it out' to another teacher.

Hankunamatata · 13/03/2025 17:20

So NOT something I would be complaining about.

Teen was inappropriate and teacher made sarcastic joke back.

Fstt1978 · 13/03/2025 17:23

I’m a secondary teacher and there are lots of jokes like this between kids and staff- they look terrible in print but are actually a sign they get on well- today my lovely year 8 class and I were joking how I was going to swing them round and kick them over the fence ( we have an ongoing joke about the chokey and how one year 8 has to be sacrificed every year) sounds awful on paper - but is v funny in real life and some parents even mentioned it positively at parents eve!

Jessicapancake · 13/03/2025 17:26

You've got too much time on your hands.

Trickabrick · 13/03/2025 17:29

Fstt1978 · 13/03/2025 17:23

I’m a secondary teacher and there are lots of jokes like this between kids and staff- they look terrible in print but are actually a sign they get on well- today my lovely year 8 class and I were joking how I was going to swing them round and kick them over the fence ( we have an ongoing joke about the chokey and how one year 8 has to be sacrificed every year) sounds awful on paper - but is v funny in real life and some parents even mentioned it positively at parents eve!

I agree with this, sounds like pretty standard sometimes near the knuckle humour used to build connections with some teenagers.

You need to unclench OP but it sounds like you have a bone to pick with this teacher so am guessing you won’t listen to the sensible voices on this thread.

Jabberwok · 13/03/2025 17:30

Fstt1978 · 13/03/2025 17:23

I’m a secondary teacher and there are lots of jokes like this between kids and staff- they look terrible in print but are actually a sign they get on well- today my lovely year 8 class and I were joking how I was going to swing them round and kick them over the fence ( we have an ongoing joke about the chokey and how one year 8 has to be sacrificed every year) sounds awful on paper - but is v funny in real life and some parents even mentioned it positively at parents eve!

Sadly some people look to be offended. The op is one. You sound like a great teacher.

When we transferred to the "upper school" , which really was up the hill from the "lower school" our new form tutor said " Girls cover your ears..Boys if you mess about in any of your classes, I'll give you the biggest bollocking you've ever had". Inappropriate yes. But instant respect from the whole class.

ShaunaSadeki · 13/03/2025 17:30

Most Teenagers love it when teachers make off colour jokes

AnotherDayAnotherIdea · 13/03/2025 17:31

I was a teacher and I would have pulled up the kid who made the first comment, or at least given a "no, thank you".

The HOY was inappropriate and I can see why your daughter would feel sad about it. I wouldn't personally have the courage to complain about it.

Ddakji · 13/03/2025 17:32

Bloody hell, everyone’s got a stick up their arse! Nothing wrong with what the kid said (foxes mating sound awful) and while what the teacher said wasn’t great, it’s not the end of the world, move on.

OldCottageGreenhouse · 13/03/2025 17:34

@Fstt1978 You sound ace!

Ritzybitzy · 13/03/2025 17:36

OldCottageGreenhouse · 13/03/2025 17:20

WTF? Your Year 2 child knew what sex was? In year 2?? That's disturbing. More disturbing than anything in the OP.

Only it’s not. It’s completely age appropriate and in fact reproduction starts in the curriculum at that age.

Curious, your 6/7 year old asks how baby brother was made. What’s your answer…?

Ritzybitzy · 13/03/2025 17:36

AnotherDayAnotherIdea · 13/03/2025 17:31

I was a teacher and I would have pulled up the kid who made the first comment, or at least given a "no, thank you".

The HOY was inappropriate and I can see why your daughter would feel sad about it. I wouldn't personally have the courage to complain about it.

We know what kind of teacher you were 😂

Elendel · 13/03/2025 17:59

Out of all the things kids say, that comment really doesn't stand out. Some people must live a life sheltered far away from budding teenagers!

The HOY has a sense of humour. I told my class the other day that the copious amounts of caffeine I consume is the only way I get through the last lesson of the day with them. A few years back I sent a kid to get a long weight from the technician. When they tell me they're dying from hunger I ask them to do so quietly. A bit of laughter can go a long way in forming a relationship.

NiftyKoala · 13/03/2025 18:04

Fstt1978 · 13/03/2025 17:23

I’m a secondary teacher and there are lots of jokes like this between kids and staff- they look terrible in print but are actually a sign they get on well- today my lovely year 8 class and I were joking how I was going to swing them round and kick them over the fence ( we have an ongoing joke about the chokey and how one year 8 has to be sacrificed every year) sounds awful on paper - but is v funny in real life and some parents even mentioned it positively at parents eve!

I'd be happy to have you teach my child. You sound great!

YesHonestly · 13/03/2025 18:08

Don’t be that parent.

Lucyccfc68 · 13/03/2025 18:08

I seriously feel sorry for teachers. They are humans and those who can have a sense of humour with the students are usually the best and most respected teachers.

Seriously, stop clutching your pearls and move on.

noblegiraffe · 13/03/2025 18:09

Please don’t waste the school’s time with this, they’ve got plenty of important stuff to be getting on with.