Waiver to go roller skating

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I went to a roller skating place that serves food as well. It's kid friendly.

I had to sign a waiver saying they could use my images and also if anything was to happen, not their fault.

Am I thinking this is over the top?

Also had to provide all my personal details like address, email, name, telephone number.... Which seems over the top. However it also had other people's email address come up as auto fill, so GDPR issue?

Surely we don't just sign away our rights?

Anyone

Totally standard. Places with risks like roller skate rinks and trampoline parks have these.

So if you are re on a trampoline and it breaks, you can't go after the venue? Despite them not doing checks, maintaining etc?

It's also skating, you don't sign a waiver to do anything in council space like crossing the road, swimming, rugby etc

Trampoline parks should be making the areas safe.

Or how about you sign a waiver at work?

Because trampoline parks and roller rinks are high risk activities where accidents can be likely to happen.

The waivers are about taking responsibility for accidents that ARE your fault, not aren’t your fault.

Is it really that much of an inconvenience to sign it?

Have you read that waiver? It's basically saying that everything is your fault....
It's not here is what you have to do to make yourself safe, anything outside of that isn't our fault

Yes it is inconvenient to sign.

If your child dies at that place because they have a gas leak because they didnt they their safe check done, you have zero claim.

You think that's fair? The law cant go after them for their "accident"

That’s not true. A disclaimer doesn’t protect against gross negligence. It does protect against a crash between skaters.

Have a look at that waiver.

If you die, not their issue

It clearly states ALL CLAIMS

I read something by a lawyer once saying that these types of waivers cover basic jump at your own risk stuff, but wouldn’t stand up in court if there was a gross act of negligence unforeseen by the customer. They cover a normal expectation of mishaps, despite how they are worded, so wouldn’t protect them from being prosecuted over an avoidable gas leak etc

Unfortunately it states ALL CLAIMS

Totally irrelevant to my reply.

if you die of a gas leak, the disclaimer is irrelevant. If you crash and die if your injuries then it wasn’t due to gross negligence on the part of the operator. The disclaimer protects them from vexatious claims. It is necessary. You don’t have to go.

Night night.

Don’t go roller skating then 🤷‍♀️

I think there's an Act that means if the business is proven negligent they still have to take responsibility for deaths / serious injury. You still have the right to be safe in the venue, if you died because you decided to do a backflip mid skate, they're not at fault. If you died because they horrendously went over capacity and ignored their own safety procedures, you are open to being able to make a claim. I mean obviously not you if you're dead, but you know.

Don’t sign it then. Do something else if it is making you this spiky. Jeez, it’s not rocket science.

It's not because they've stated ALL CLAIMS

Not rocket science?

You mean it's just rocket science to know what's right and wrong and that business shouldn't be putting out these shitty bits for you to sign

So therefore they shouldn't be putting out shitry disclaimers that state "all"

Next time you'll be asked for sign it ay work

You’re not understanding the PP.

It doesn’t matter if it says all claims.

Legally, a waiver does not cover any acts of gross negligence on their behalf. It doesn’t matter what you signed. There is no waiver that absolves them of their legal responsibilities. It cannot be legally waived in the U.K. so the wording has no legal basis.

You can still sue them if they are negligent. Doesn’t matter what their waiver says.

Therefore they shouldn't be presenting such waivers... Because they aren't legally enforceable and aren't fit no for the purpose.

So I understand her perfectly well.

I don't understand the sheep mentality that 1) you have to sign a waiver 2) you blindly sign anything.

Oh shouldn't be in a position whereby someone is signing a waiver like this

So therefore it does matter.

The waivers don't even state anything about safety.

They should be valid and should be legal

In order for liability waivers to be legally effective, they require two aspects:

1. The exclusion clauses (i.e. disclaimer) must refer to the circumstances of the accident and must exclude liability for risks or injuries.
2. The operator must take reasonable steps to bring the exclusion or waiver to the attention of the participant, so they understand the risks.

You clearly don’t as you were still banging on about “all claims”.

Lots of companies push their luck with wording/disclaimers.

Myself and PP are telling you it’s not legally enforceable and breaks U.K. law.

If you’re not happy signing it, don’t sign. You won’t be permitted entry. It’s a simple choice to make.

I agree they shouldn’t have worded like they have but it’s useless. Disclaimers don’t exempt them from being subjected to U.K. law.

Disclaimers are used to demonstrate you were warned about possible risks - if those risks end up being due to their negligence, a waiver provides zero protection.

Up to you what you want to do. Honestly a bit mental that you’re getting your knickers in such a twist over a non-enforceable disclaimer 🤷‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️