Waiver to go roller skating

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I went to a roller skating place that serves food as well. It's kid friendly.

I had to sign a waiver saying they could use my images and also if anything was to happen, not their fault.

Am I thinking this is over the top?

Also had to provide all my personal details like address, email, name, telephone number.... Which seems over the top. However it also had other people's email address come up as auto fill, so GDPR issue?

Surely we don't just sign away our rights?

Get used to to it. You're going to have to sign dozens of them while you have kids. If you get this annoyed by one, you've a very grumpy time ahead of you!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-68413278.amp

A quick google showed this news story where owners of a trampoline park were taken to court. I bet they made their customers sign a waiver.

If you don’t want to go, don’t go. It’s your choice to use the company or not. It’s that simple.
People are telling you this protects the roller skating rink from idiots doing stunts for YouTube likes, but not gross negligence on their part. You don’t want to hear it because you don’t like the wording, but that’s neither here nor there to your argument. You go or don’t go. No one is forcing you to do anything.

The sad case at the Snowdome a while ago shows this is not true. A boy died whilst at a tobogganing party. The Health and Safety Executive persued a case and they have just received a very large fine for not properly risk assessing activities. So maybe you sign the waiver but the HSE definitely doesn't.

They can't write a list of all possible valid claims because either:
Some idiot will find a completely new way to injured themselves or other people or

Some lowlife will scrutinise the form for something they've left out and then fake that as a basis for a claim.

Actually I'd be more outraged by other people's personal details, and therefore mine, available on autofill.

If you don’t like it you don’t have to go there, so why are you being so aggressive?

If it helps I am a solicitor and it is perfectly usual to sign this kind of indemnity, if it works for them, great, if found to be too broad it won’t stand up, the venue hasn’t lost anything. You can’t expect to engage in a dangerous activity and shift all the risk on to someone else. If you need someone to blame then the litigation culture which has come over from the states is where you should be pointing your ire.

They can have all the waivers they want. If they are negligent then they won't stand up in court.

I could put a sign up on my front door saying if you ring the door bell you have to pay a million pounds. Doesn't mean it's legal and a court would probably find it an unfair "contract".

I do not frequent these places as I do think the health and safety is on the poor side. Not necessarily a complete danger, but i don't think they are looked after as they should be.

You can't legally sign away all rights. No matter what the bit of paper says.

Contracts often state totally unenforceable things.

Completely normal with any high risk activity.

My friend slipped in a trampoline park getting off the trampoline. She slipped on a drink that had been spilt and not cleaned up. She broke her ankle. She claimed from the park and received compensation because it was their fault, not hers.

Agreed. I imagine it will be part of their insurance requirements. However, it's not normal to have the auto fill activated on the form, so you can see other people's email addresses. That's not on.

OP if you are this concerned then take legal advice or go to Trading Standards. Mumsnet is not the place to help if you just disagree with everyone’s opinion.

Oh look - another poster with 3 random words as their user name. There’s been a lot of those on here recently 🤔

The business doesn't decide if they do waivers, their insurance does. I operate a family entertainment venue and it is not our choice to do them. They are frankly hard work and a pain on many levels.
However, if we don't get people to sign them and they then get hurt, our insurance will not cover us.
They do however get to choose the wording which I would have an issue with.
Also the fact that myt daughter is a looked after child and cannot be in social media images, means I wouldn't be signing that and would have to decline the activity. I find it strange that they add that into the safety waiver.

At least it's something a bit different from the school and teacher bashing from RandomWordsUsername that has been cropping up more and more!

You're clearly the one with her knickers in a twist and you are continually missing the point because you don't understand contract law. If you went rollerskating and broke your leg because the company had failed to meet its duties under the law, it wouldn't matter a jot that you had signed this waiver.

I sort of agree.

However then you would report them to some body such as trading standards? There isn't an obvious place to report them too, to make them change it. It may put people off suing but anyone who is injured and asks a lawyer would be told it doesn't cover the gas leak example. Or an ambulance chaser would maybe approach if an accident was reported in the paper that fell into negligence.

Or the safety council /healthy and safety act if they have unsafe sites -ie trampoline park owner was found guilty when someone died a few years ago.

There was a case about this a few years back. Family signed a waiver for child to go on those inflatable climbing obsticle course on water. The inflatables weren't correctly assembled, child fell down a small gap and was effectively crushed between the two and suffered respiratory arrest as a result. Child was successfully resusitated, but did have lasting health issues as a result. The company was found to be at fault.

The waiver covers them if a persons own choices result in injury, however it doesnt cover them if their own negligence is the cause. They are common place at any high risk activity, if you dont like them dont sign and dont do the activity.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/09/bouncy-castle-death-couple-convicted-of-manslaughter

Criminal case and charged with health and safety law breaches.

Maybe there is a trampoline park organisation you can take it up with?

a)they can’t sign away their statutory duty and b) contracts have to be fair and equitable. it’s only purpose is to put people off claiming as otherwise they would have a plethora of claims every week. it would never hold up on court for a claim where the venue was at fault.

Makes me wonder if the OP has watched the 'Human Cent-iPad' episode of South Park and now spends their life reading every line of every T&Cs we ever have to accept. Must never get anything done

The auto-fill of other people's details is wrong, and it is a GDPR issue.

You can get as pissy about it as you want but you don't have to go rollerskating lol