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Not an AIBU but here for the traffic ….
Looking for advice…

In the order listed above is the safest countries to live .

Few years back (not sure how many ) I had an inkling iceland was the place to be if the UK got any worse.

I know many people are looking to leave the UK my dilemma is I don’t think I can if I choose too at the moment.

So me …. own business but not something I can transfer and convince Iceland (for example ) to let me in sadly .

Looking to retrain over the next 2/3 years decsisons on what keep changing due to the state of the Uk.

Does anyone have any advice on which route I should be taking with securing my future .

What would you / should I train in and at what level ?
I know what I would be doing if I was choosing to stay in the UK forever but i feel I need to make decisions that open doors to other countries.

Anyone else with this thought process ?

I thought New Zealand was one of the safest sure they want more nurses there too

@MavisTheMonkey Thankyou.
I worked in healthcare , and I ended up elsewhere . Ideally I’d love to get back to healthcare but didn’t want to choose a passion over something that may have been a better door or opener.

I tell you for sure that Ireland needs healthcare professionals especially occupational therapists, speech and language therapists, psychotherapists etc. And no language barrier of course.

OP. I think, given the vagueness of your current goals, you should really do a lot of reading and refine your criteria. I don’t think learning a new language is for you. Perhaps raising your own standard of living here would help. It will be cheaper for you to upskill here rather than emigrate. If numbers are for you, you could learn coding for example?

And please educate yourself re Norway and its neighbours. Saying ‘Norwegian countries’ repeatedly is a little disrespectful. I expect you mean ‘Scandinavian’. In any case, some of those countries are also facing challenges with immigration/far right conflict right now.

Lots of research needed.

@Sunnydays25 i think my heart will lead me back down the nursing route .
I ventured off for a degree elsewhere which afterwards I ended up not enjoying . Between the lack of enthusiasm and childcare at the time I then set up my own business Instead .

@853ax i have a friend there but it’s to far from where I’d like to be .
I don’t hate the UK I just wanted to work towards options.
I have family in America and had a sponsor in Canada. These are not options for me .

@DateComing I have a second lanaguage
just not a very common one . Not saying it was easy to learn. It doesn’t come easy to me .

Also to add I really can’t complain I live somewhere I love , decent enough income .
Isn’t the plan to work smarter not harder.

Apologises regarding Norwegian and Scandinavian, happy to stand corrected .

Well, I think fair play for having an open mindset on finding somewhere that you think would give you a happier life. Healthcare, teaching and construction seem to be in demand everywhere. Don’t move to a big expensive city that has housing shortages and/or high rents. Research the employment opportunities before you research housing.

There’s a lifelong cost you should consider too, if you’ve kids - how much does third level education cost, could your kids find careers in your new country, how easily could they integrate if still in school, what non-job lifestyle considerations would matter to you (eg sports, hobbies, flight access to family and friends), what language barriers do you need to overcome, what does your life look like in 10/15/20 years?

that should read ‘lifelong cost/benefit’

I was going to suggest a TESL course, but I don't think that would be possible.

I'd advise you to look into some healthcare-allied career like phlebotomy or lab tech.

Same goes for Lambay Island, though at least there's a colony of wallabies there to distract from the disappointment.

Honestly everywhere has its flaws and the cost of living everywhere is high now. And likely will get worse.

The UK has a huge range of places to live though. My uncle chose somewhere away from humans!

In terms of safety, I love Iceland, but consider it vulnerable to huge issues in a crisis relating to volcanoes or glacial flooding. If not directly but indirectly via infrastructure.

The main power plant has been playing a game of chicken with the recent eruptions and in an earlier one there were concerns over hot water supplies to some limited areas.

If you live away from the capital the ring road is a lifeline but often is badly affected by the weather.

Honestly, it's a wonderful country but it's ultimately not one I'd consider 'safe' for those reasons.

I think this is where my problem is with your op. You've become ultra focused on certain things but seem pretty blind to other considerations.

Leaving the UK to get more sunshine in Iceland or Ireland may not tick absolutely all the boxes you're hoping for

Only a random tidbit I picked up relatively recently, but Finland is not Scandinavian.

Look, I think the OP’s musings on Norwegian countries has been scrutinised at this point. Let’s move on and assume she was broadly talking about Scandinavia, and for good measure, let’s include Finnish as a potential language to learn!

Finnish wouldn't be a starter language en route to the other languages of that part of the world, except maybe Estonia.

'Broadly talking about Scandinavia?' No. Finland is not in Scandinavia so you can't refer to it as being broadly Scandinavian. What a bizarre reply.

There's an Irish cost of living sub on Reddit - I would check that out. It's worse than here at the moment!

I know this! My point is, the op is talking in sweeping (inaccurate) terms, but we can still be helpful.

Tongue in cheek. My understanding is that Finnish is notoriously difficult to learn, on a par with Magyar.

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"I think we need to really be open to there being better places to live"

Of course there's "better" places to live. The perfect country does not exist. It's all relative, subjective, depending on circumstances, etc

@mathanxiety why would it not be possible ? Is this another comment based on my English not being up to mumsnets liking ?
I completed a TEFL course last year . Thought process being it would be a quicker route to access elsewhere.