To expect people not to take over my seat on the plane

[WhyNotUsehis]

Warning - RANT

If you can't keep your body within the confines of your seat, then either purchase 2 seats or accept the right of your fellow passengers to drop a guillotine between the seats

Why do I have to spend my flight being constantly hit by passing passengers, stewards and trollies as I'm wedged so tightly up against the aisle armrest that my shoulder is hanging out into the aisle and I'm tilted so much into the aisle that my side/back is in agony

I'm not asking you to give me part of your seat, just allow me to have use of my own

@friendlycat

My partner is 6ft 2. My BIL 6ft 4. Surprisingly we can book seats with extra leg room.
It is surprising. Being over 6ft is very very common now. There are far more 6ft plus people on a plane than there are seats available because their non 6ft plus partner and family take up the rest of them. Unless your 6ft plus family sit in that row alone and the shorter members of your family sit elsewhere there will never be enough room for all tall people to get a bulkhead seat

There are plenty of aisle seats. OK, you may have to disturb your neighbour when the trolley is passing but other than that you don't have to encroach on someone else's space.

You know how big the seats are. If you don't fit buy a larger one, a second one, or an aisle one so you can lean. Just don't think it entitles you to my space. Complain to the airlines, vote with your wallet, but don't think your size is my problem. Typical humans do fit in airline seats in my experience. 6ft tall people, giant shouldered people, obese people aren't actually typical on most of the planet.

its always men with their bloody elbows

drives me nuts

I know elbow back

But again, this is the same defeatist divide-and-rule attitude that makes people seek a hierarchy of who deserves what, rather than believing that everybody should have their basic standard needs met.

It reminds me of the deprived communities that have been abandoned and forgotten by politicians who then furiously rail at immigrants 'jumping the queue' and getting what they believe they have more right to.

I know it's not quite the same, as airlines are private companies, but must we really aim for the lowest common denominator and blame the people on the larger side of average rather than the airline industry for causing this issue?

@Digdongdoo

You know how big the seats are. If you don't fit buy a larger one, a second one, or an aisle one so you can lean. Just don't think it entitles you to my space. Complain to the airlines, vote with your wallet, but don't think your size is my problem. Typical humans do fit in airline seats in my experience. 6ft tall people, giant shouldered people, obese people aren't actually typical on most of the planet.
Actually it is your problem. It's a society problem because expecting a normal human who is doing nothing to exacerbate the problem other than having been born larger than average to suffer is called discrimination and that's why it's as much your problem.

Or do you go around wailing that blind people can't have service dogs in restaurants because it's not your problem^ or moan that someone in a wheelchair gets priority on boarding because it's not your problem.^

Just grow up

It's a business. If I think a loaf of bread is too small, the solution is not to take a few slices from someone else's loaf is it? No. I buy a different, or second loaf. Same principle. If the seat doesn't suit you, spend your money elsewhere. Not use part of someone else's. Airlines aren't charities. Equally, if people are overly bothered by encroachers, they could choose not to fly, or to pay more for extra space.
Not fitting in a plane seat isn't a disability or protected characteristic is it? Bit of a silly comparison.

it sounds like it's your problem really...

I’m 6’4 ex rugby player - not fat, well, not excessively fat. Used to commute between Scotland and England regularly by short haul.
always tried to keep within the ‘boundaries’ but the middle seat on Easy Jet flights isn’t the largest. Always tried to be sympathetic and rarely used the arm rests.
I would not purchase 2 seats, nor would I expect anyone else to. If I take a longer haul flight I pay extra and get a longer leg room seat and avoid middle seats.

Would you not just ask them to move over??

As I've said, I'm not strangely huge. Fewer than half of all people can fit in the average airline seat. The average seat width accommodates the shoulder width of 12.8% of American males, 20% of Dutch males, 23% of
Korean males, up to 52.1% of Thai males....

I'm not even a man, so goodness knows how they are managing.

Why would you book the middle seat?

I sometimes find airline seats too small and I am a lot smaller than average! Not just scrawny, I’m barely five foot tall and have very short legs and narrow shoulders. The airlines need to make bigger seats, because if I’m uncomfortable then goodness only knows how rotten it is for normal sized people!

They need to book an aisle seat, then. You have to move your legs when the trolleys are up and down, but it certainly beats middle or window seats.

Well crying babies and smelly passengers happen in BC also lol

How to say you are out of touch with the world without actually saying that.

Even in 'cattle class' you should expect basic courtesy and full use of the seat you have paid for. Just because most of us can't afford business class, it doesn't mean we deserve less 🙄

My sister had someone so large next to her, they lifted the arm rest to sit down. She put it back before he sat, he called the stewardess who supported him. DSis was basically wearing him on her flight. This was in the US , NY to Miami

I posted about this before under a different username. I actually suffered soft tissue damage and bruising on a flight. An extremely large woman sat in the middle seat, I was in the aisle seat. I had to sit on my left hip at an angle for a 3 hour flight and she was basically sitting on my leg and hip. Flight was full so no option to move. I was in agony. I has to attend the hospital after a couple of days due to pain and the staff were horrified that this woman was allowed to inflict those injuries to me on a plane. Airline were contacted and I did receive an apology and compensation.

I still get worried now when I'm travelling. I would rather get of a flight than sit beside somebody like that again.

I'm short with short legs and can sit on a flight comfortably but the last flight I was on the man next to me, not with me, was manspreading and put his head on my shoulder to go to sleep. I kept shoving him onto the woman the other side of him, who he was with but he kept coming back, I don't know if he didn't wake up or was pretending to be asleep but I was shoving him pretty hard.

My husband has a humongous appendage and sitting with his legs together affects his performance later. However hes not a selfish pr*ck so he positions himself so as not to knee the passengers either side on the basis his comfort is more important. I just dont get such a good sorting that night.
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