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To feel so lonely visiting my parents

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lonelydaughter · 03/03/2025 21:25

I grew up in a wealthy but emotionally distant family. My parents would say things like “I love you” and ask for kisses when we did see each other, but those moments were brief. They preferred to spend their free time reading or watching TV rather than actively engaging with me. If I wanted to be around them, it was on their terms: I’d go to their room or office, where they’d continue their activities while I quietly sat nearby. If I didn’t want to do that, I’d just go to my own room and play alone. The living room was rarely used.

Now, as grandparents, they want me to visit, but only for short periods. They’ll happily see my daughter (she’s 3) at mealtimes, but outside of that, they’re back to their books and screens. If I suggest an outing, like a trip to the farm, they decline because she’s “too young,” might have a tantrum, or walks too slowly, cries unpredictably. Their version of spending time with her is letting her climb on their bed or sofa while they scroll on their phones or read, occasionally swatting her away if she blocks the screen. They might put on some music for her to dance to or at best read her a short book, but after an hour of hanging out, it’s, “Alright, maybe go outside before we all go mad?” Even a simple walk is out of the question: she walks too slowly, stops too much, gets distracted by everything.

I feel guilty for not visiting more because I know they’d be sad. When we are there, they shower us with “I’ve missed you,” “Give me a kiss,” “I love you both so much,” and “You’re the best daughter and granddaughter.” But the reality is, every visit leaves me feeling lonely and exhausted. I’m solo parenting 22 hours a day, just without the support of friends like I have at home and without seeing my husband in the evening if I visit during the week when he works.

To avoid a drip feed, they are incredibly generous financially, they’ve helped me buy a house, promised to cover my daughter’s private school fees, and often give large gifts for birthdays and holidays.

By contrast, my in-laws don’t have a huge house, but DH’s childhood was filled with stories of quality time together. With our daughter, they’re the same—they’ll get on the floor to play, make crafts, read, tell stories, and sing songs. They’d love to go to the farm with us and often do. The difference is stark and it makes me feel so let down. I don't know whether to cut down the visits and disappoint my parents, or keep it up but be unhappy every visit.

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Lentilweaver · 04/03/2025 10:44

DodoTired · 04/03/2025 10:42

Lots of people here trying to gaslight you about your parents being good parents and grandparents 🤣

don’t listen to this BS. This is emotional coldness and emotional neglect. Who cares whether they provided financially- there is a whole term called affluent neglect

Assuming you are right, what do you suggest she does?

LionME · 04/03/2025 10:46

@lonelydaughter my parents are the same. They're emotionally immature and unable to connect with people.
My dad has never ever played with my dcs (am also an only child these are their only grandchildren) My mum has done a bit more and is trying but has also always been completely overwhelmed by it all,

They were the same when I was a child and it was NOT fine.

They will say they love me and the dcs etc… but their only way to show care and love is through money.

My own way to deal with it

  • I go there on my terms. I stay as long as I tolerate it. And as often as it works for me. I refuse to be guilt tripped into visiting more than I can or want.
  • I have done quite a bit of counselling around them and my childhood. A lot of how I feel is about my relationship to them rather than their relationship to their grand dcs. It helps accepting them as they are. Loving in the only way they can manage.
  • I’ve given up trying to involve them. They’ll do what they want anyway.

Btw don’t let anyone say ‘it’s fine’ or ‘don’t compare’.
Growing up as a child like this is fucking hard. Seeing it replayed with your dd right in front of you is hard. There will be a part of you that has dreamt they would be the doting (grand) parents they weren’t with you.
There will be a lot of eye opening going on there.

But unfortunately it is true you can’t change them or force them to interact with your dd.
The ones that will loose out is them btw. Reap what you sow etc….

DodoTired · 04/03/2025 10:48

Lentilweaver · 04/03/2025 10:44

Assuming you are right, what do you suggest she does?

I’ve suggested on a previous post - just go less, pull away without drama or declarations

she said she goes often because she believes them when they say “oh we miss you so much” - but it reality it’s just blah blah, polite words not backed up by actions. So she can go much less with no guilt (although I would recommend therapy for OP because I think she’s confronting their emotional coldness towards herself as a child and it can be very painful)

LionME · 04/03/2025 10:55

Btw @lonelydaughter when thry say they can’t come to see you so you have to come.
Thats wrong.
They are CHOOSING to not come to you. They could (and can afford) to do the trip too, pay for a nice hotel etc…

But Theyre not.
Theyre not because it would spending the day with you and your dd with no way of retreating (even though my dad does manage. He just goes on his phone whilst sat on our sofa).
Theyre putting their needs first, before yours. Which is fine. But you dint have then to make up for it.

Id also look at people pleasing and see if this fits you.
Going over the board, ignoring your own needs (eg for support) to order to keep them happy.

stayathomer · 04/03/2025 10:56

A lot of gps near us do pickups etc. I thought this was lovely until I heard them all Joking one day about being second time parents, not being paid, ah sure I’ve no life why wouldn’t I be expected to do school runs etc etc. to say it was a shock is an understatement, they were all really bitter (about seven of them!!!!!)

Im 45 with dodgy knees and I can’t imagine going back to the patience, flexibility etc etc that you need with young children, and I’d guess travelling is more difficult too!! Appreciate the time you spend with them for the company as opposed to anything else

LionME · 04/03/2025 11:09

stayathomer · 04/03/2025 10:56

A lot of gps near us do pickups etc. I thought this was lovely until I heard them all Joking one day about being second time parents, not being paid, ah sure I’ve no life why wouldn’t I be expected to do school runs etc etc. to say it was a shock is an understatement, they were all really bitter (about seven of them!!!!!)

Im 45 with dodgy knees and I can’t imagine going back to the patience, flexibility etc etc that you need with young children, and I’d guess travelling is more difficult too!! Appreciate the time you spend with them for the company as opposed to anything else

Edited

You’re comparing doing the school run everyday on your own to spending 2 days with your dd and your grand dd every month or so.
Something THEY are asking for.

Not comparable at all.

And btw the grand mothers you overheard on the playground… Theyre CHOOSING to be a martyr. ‘Oh look at what I’m doing when I really don’t want to’. Not good. on their side.

Bottom line, you dint want to look after your grand dc? Don’t. Regardless of the reason.
You dint want to see them, can’t cope with the tantrums etc… that’s fine.
But you also live with the consequence of your choice - in the case of the OP, not seeing her and her dd as often because actually being ignored and refusing to do anything with their grandchild means it’s not sustainable for the OP.

Deliberationdivinationdesperation · 04/03/2025 11:15

I understand where you're coming from OP, I think it sounds disappointing that they say they want to see you but then don't interact. If I were you I'd go just for the day, or one night in the week at the most and that's it. If they say why can't you stay for longer then I'd just make up an appointment the next day. I suppose once your daughter starts school (next September I assume), you won't be able to visit as often or for as long. It's kind of them to be financially generous but it doesn't mean it feels nice for them to be emotionally distant even if they don't mean to be.

OriginalUsername2 · 04/03/2025 11:16

It sounds like they’re different personality types.

Your parents seem to need constant levels of stimulation through books and the internet - I relate to this! I get very restless sitting around chatting after a few hours when the real conversation has run out and people are just thinking of things to say. I just want to get back to my own world at that point.

Getting down on the floor and playing doesn’t come naturally to everyone either.

Go for short quality visits rather than hanging around for hours / days. And then thank your lucky stars that you have playful in-laws. See it as a bonus, rather than something that should be expected.

OriginalUsername2 · 04/03/2025 11:19

Once a month for 4-5 nights is A LOT.

BruFord · 04/03/2025 11:32

@LionME Yes, it’s hard but I stand by my assertion that comparing them to other parents/gps doesn’t really help, it just makes you miserable.

What I’ve done and continue to do is take note and resolve to behave differently with my children and any future children.

lostintherainyday · 04/03/2025 12:15

I think you’ll find that this changes as DD gets older.

I felt blessed to have the same combination of GPs.

My extroverted in-laws were very full on during the toddler years, but almost completely lost interest by tween/teen time as they didn’t really know how to relate to older kids.

By contrast, my introvert parents were happy just to co-exist during the baby/toddler years, but now spend hours sat with my older teens, playing extremely involved board games, discussing world events or obscure literary analysis.

Both sets of grandparents have been amazing in their own ways.

Trendyname · 04/03/2025 12:42

blueshoes · 03/03/2025 23:46

I agree with this.

Your parents appear to be successful financially and are very generous with you. You have a very comfortable life substantially funded by them with a husband that does not work that very hard (9-5?). I am not sure you have a job yourself so perhaps you think money grows on trees. To you, money is cheap compared to time and warmth.

Now consider how life would look for you and your family if your parents withdrew all their gifts and financial support and gave you and dd your time and attention instead, like your ILs? Do you have any concep what it is like to worry about rent/mortgage, bills, schools, cost of living and having to go out to work and afford childcare, with your husband going for promotions and getting a longer hours higher paying job to support his family? That latter is what 95% of all families have to do. Life is one big compromise, feeling exhausted all the time and treading water.

So think about your woes and cold parents and tell us they fall short.

There is the phrase you don't know you were born.

I agree with this. Op, this post is good, though it may sound a bit harsh but well intentioned.

You need to have a bit more perspective. You only need to compromise a few days while at your parents.
While your parents do not engage much with your dd, they do things to make your dd's future secure financially. You have a house paid by parents, there are many people in rented accommodation.
Your parents cannot change. You need to accept that. They cannot show love physically but that does not mean they do not miss you and their granddaughter.
I have an alcoholic father, who never paid for a single thing for me. My mother had a trauma and is emotionally and practically dependant on my sibling and me.
Please build some perspective. Do some fun activities with dd while at parents home, like making art, watching cartoons, go for walks. Do not spend more than 2 days at a time. Tell your parents while you are grateful for their help and woyld like to visit them regularly but your dd need more engagement and activities, so the best compromise is for you to have short visits to not overwhelm any of the parties.

lonelydaughter · 04/03/2025 14:00

@PeppyLemonPombear if I try to shorten the visits there's little comments of "oh you've only just arrived" "didn't even get time to have all the cuddles" etc.

Although I think shorter visits is where this is going.

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lonelydaughter · 04/03/2025 14:06

pizzaHeart · 04/03/2025 08:44

Are we talking about your mum or your dad or both of them ?
when you say interact with us during the visits do you mean talk to you or play/ interact with DD? I’m asking because my late Dad would happily discuss world affairs with me on our visits (expected me to listen him 🙂) but couldn’t talk with my DD for more than 2 sentences. I thought it’s her being little but then her being girl. Nope, it’s him being not capable to interact with other people unless it’s on certain terms.
When you say tantrums/ being messy do you make a point that DD is parented by you and not affecting other people ?

Both of them.

My dad will make comments like "oh wow what a strong voice!" if my daughter cries or joke about how lovely the weather is outside (ie can you two please go out).
My mum will comment on the mess more or things like "she will spill that glass, hold it for her" when in reality I will wipe up any spillages and it's water so will not leave marks. Lots of fond memories of car journeys with my mum where she would plug in headphones and ask me not to talk to her for an hour.
My mum wouldn't agree to go out for a walk together to even start with, but my dad may agree to it, although race off within 5-10 minutes of starting, the first time my daughter finds a leaf / mushroom to look at.

They will both retreat into their (separate) rooms and go on their phones.

OP posts:
BruFord · 04/03/2025 14:11

lonelydaughter · 04/03/2025 14:00

@PeppyLemonPombear if I try to shorten the visits there's little comments of "oh you've only just arrived" "didn't even get time to have all the cuddles" etc.

Although I think shorter visits is where this is going.

@lonelydaughter Yes, shorten the visits, you'll feel better taking control of the situation.

Different scenario but we were always uncomfortable and unable to sleep staying at my in-laws so now we stay in a hotel- they fussed at first, but the point is that it’s your visit so you decide, iyswim. If a two-day visit suits you better, that’s what you’ll do, for example.

lonelydaughter · 04/03/2025 14:20

@Secondarystruggles your suggestions are EXACTLY what I want from my parents...

Could you do an activity or meet up somewhere they would enjoy for lunch e.g. a garden centre? Plenty for your parents to look at as your DC potters
A garden center would require them to get off the sofa and stop scrolling their phone. At the garden center DD would probably want to run towards a pretty flower bed rather than walk an a slow adult pace without touching anything, she may want to spend longer looking at the fish tanks rather than glance for 2-3 minutes and move on calmly like an adult would, she might get bored and run around, she might have a meltdown towards the end when she's tired and I ask her not to climb on somewhere. It's all "effort" and they'd find it annoying. Easier to sit on the sofa and stare at their phone or newspaper.

Do either of them like baking - could your DD make buns or biscuits with them? Even running an errand together like going to the postbox yo post a letter.
Again, "effort". It would be messy. She might not mix exactly when instructed, she might insist on pouring the flour in and do it wrong, she might try to rush ahead and put in too many chocolate chips. Not ordered and done on command. It might be slower than baking on their own and there could be delays due to her wanting to do everything herself. Normal for a 3 year old.

Could you get her a little rake to help garden with them? Could they teach her flower /tree names etc
Because she isn't a professional gardener, she'd do it to toddler standard, dig a hole a bit too wide or deep or stand on a flower. She might want to keep digging when asked to stop or stop digging if she gets bored. That would just annoy them and mess up their beautiful garden.

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lonelydaughter · 04/03/2025 14:21

@Secondarystruggles and my parents are approaching 70 but very high energy. Each do about 2 hours of exercise per day, walk everywhere. Lots of ski holidays and other active trips. Very very physically fit.

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lonelydaughter · 04/03/2025 14:25

Mumofteenandtween · 04/03/2025 09:20

As money isn’t a problem is there a lovely hotel near you that they can stay in? Then they can visit as often as they like for as long as they like. They can pop in for lunch before retreating to the hotel for a nice relaxing book read whilst you get on with your day.

They just don't want to do a hotel. For them hotels are either a luxurious 5 star experience in a different city abroad / skiing / beach holiday, or if they're in the Uk they'd rather be in their home comforts, their local area, having their usual routine

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lonelydaughter · 04/03/2025 14:25

@Secondarystruggles well according to my parents I never had tantrums. More likely, I was just swiftly whipped up by a nanny.

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lonelydaughter · 04/03/2025 14:32

dapsnotplimsolls · 04/03/2025 09:39

Do your parents ever mention the money?

Hmmm they do and they don't.

They don't hold it over me at visits or say "because we bought you a house, can you ..." or "we're good GPs because we will pay for school" or hint at it, but there's some snide remarks about my husband (not in front of him!!) being poorer or not contributing enough or living in my house for free. There is also a general vibe in their house that money drives the world, everything revolves around money and everything can be explained by money (why anyone does anything - for money or because of money).

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Secondarystruggles · 04/03/2025 14:37

@lonelydaughter your frustration with your parents is absolutely evident in each of your posts and you obviously don't think there is a way to 'manage' the visits better. So while your DD is this age just do shorter visits, after 4-5 days with a toddler in the house I would be hiding in my room and I'm not anywhere near 70!

It's obviously fine to vent. We all do it from time to time about our parents, inlaws, partners or kids. Do try and look at the 'glass half full' though as your parents do care for you (cooking for you when you stay) and support you (buying treats and helping you have financial security which makes a massive difference to life!). Yes, the 'downside' is they like peace, quiet & order and aren't good at playing with little kids but that doesn't make them bad people. It just is what it is for now.

Lentilweaver · 04/03/2025 14:42

lonelydaughter · 04/03/2025 14:32

Hmmm they do and they don't.

They don't hold it over me at visits or say "because we bought you a house, can you ..." or "we're good GPs because we will pay for school" or hint at it, but there's some snide remarks about my husband (not in front of him!!) being poorer or not contributing enough or living in my house for free. There is also a general vibe in their house that money drives the world, everything revolves around money and everything can be explained by money (why anyone does anything - for money or because of money).

If I were you, I would try to stand on my own feet and visit my parents far less.
I say this as someone who has taken nothing from my parents and therefore have a far better relationship with them.
Send your dd to state and do cheap hols.

It's really easy to sneer at your parent's view of money- as you have- when you aren't making any.

Biscuitsnotcookies · 04/03/2025 14:48

You sound really spoilt and ungrateful. So used to an easy life you have lost touch with how much security money can bring, how important it is and how hard it is acquire. Maybe they are materialistic but they are also very generous with it, and many parents are not - even very wealthy ones.

Stop whining. Cut the visits down or reduce them gradually. Accept they are older and set in their ways and have done all the parenting stuff. If your in laws feel like second class citizens- no wonder they are bending over backwards. I would love to hear their take on all of this.

Treeleaf11 · 04/03/2025 14:57

I would think very carefully about them paying for private school for her. I wouldnt like to have that means of control hanging over me for the next 15 years.

Lentilweaver · 04/03/2025 15:06

Only on MN: I think my parents are materialistic. Money is so important to them.
That's why I take money from them. Because money is really unimportant to me. 🙄

If my kids griped about me being materialistic while holding their hands out, I'd tell them to make their own. The cheek!