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puttynomo · 26/02/2025 00:31

I'm a trainee teacher and just started in my second placement. Induction day training was about unconscious bias relating to a student survey in which pupils had reported various acts of racism in the school.

We were in random assigned teams and my team had about 7 people in, one other new guy (black). The task was to discuss a number of scenarios relating to race such as mixing up the only ethnic minority students names or a pupil reporting racism from a staff member, we were meant to discuss what we'd do in these scenarios, but basically immediately these two older women (one in particular) and a man immediately started on the defensive minimising it all, saying stuff like

'I get white kids mixed up all the time or kids that are ginger, I'm not racist, some kids have a certain look like Irish kids and I get them mixed up it's not racism' then they mocked being accused of racism when they said some of the black kids behaviour was atrocious and they deserved to be removed (one of pupil complaints was unfair targeting).

This carried on and nobody else including me could get a word in. The black guy was inbetween them and said nothing. Then the worst comment of all said by this one particular woman who'd been speaking about black pupils with complete derision the whole time she said

'What if it's just a cultural thing that black people are so aggressive, the way they speak' further justifying her removing them etc. I was actually shocked and at this point it was back to the main speaker. I had no chance to speak to the other guy but later found out it was his first day as well. My mentor was next to me and said nothing.

I felt so uncomfortable and shocked about this and it's still really bothering me. I saw the black guy in the staff room today he sat on his own and didn't speak to anyone I meant to try and speak to him but didn't get a chance.

What's the best course of action here? Was it racism? Should I speak to him and say anything? Should I report it? It's difficult as I've only just met everyone and my mentor and I don't know who those other people were. AIBU to think that this should be reported so this staff member can be spoken to? I'm shocked she is confident enough to say these things and then teaching children.

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JHound · 10/08/2025 13:41

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It’s “most likely to happen”.

Err no it is not. That’s just your racism talking.

menopausalfart · 10/08/2025 13:44

@puttynomo Was this resolved?

JackGrealishsBobbySocks · 10/08/2025 14:15

TheLivelyViper · 10/08/2025 13:09

It not mixing up names that's automatically racist - it's when there's two Black kids and you constantly throughout the whole year mix them up. It's when a kid with a difficult name tells you multiple times how to spell and say their name correctly and you blatantly ignore them.

It's when I was leaving school and I teacher I knew wanted to talk to me (there were around a 12ish Black girls in the whole school only 4 including me in my year). She called out the name of Black girls not even in my year, then a specific girl who for 3 years teachers who mix me and her up (the majority of that time we were the only 2 Black girls in our year but of course we look the same when there's dozens of white girls who all do the same makeup etc). Then continued with every Black girls name except mine and then the names of a few Asian girls. I kept walking and left, the next day I told them if you want to talk to me after school at least have the decency to remember my name, when we've know each other for ages instead of just shouting the names of all the Black girls you know.

It's annoying for sure to be addressed by the wrong name. In your circumstances t,hat seems like an adult deliberately pissing all over a child to assert some bullshit dominance, "I'm too important and you're too insignificant for me to remember your name even after all these years." I'm sorry.

ilovesooty · 10/08/2025 14:23

thisistoofunny · 10/08/2025 13:29

Here's a better idea - you maybe hold your tongue and stop trying to tell anyone else what to say or think - ever. Your pitiful wannabe attempt to bully normal people into silence has never worked in real life and certainly won't work as you attempt to be a keyboard warrior. 😅😂😅

How are you defining "normal people"?

ilovesooty · 10/08/2025 14:25

thisistoofunny · 10/08/2025 13:34

Yep, and the Red Guard love it, what a vile bunch they are, just slavering and slobbering at the bit to report someone for literally nothing. I hope she did report them, she will have learned a valuable lesson about her insignificance and they will have done absolutely nothing except roll their eyes.

Who are "the Red Guard"?

menopausalfart · 10/08/2025 17:46

@ilovesooty I imagine those who oppose the Red Guard would also like to be able to call my child a mong as she has learning disabilities, single mothers, slags/whores, and anyone that's not white, wogs, cause you know, free speech.

ilovesooty · 10/08/2025 17:54

menopausalfart · 10/08/2025 17:46

@ilovesooty I imagine those who oppose the Red Guard would also like to be able to call my child a mong as she has learning disabilities, single mothers, slags/whores, and anyone that's not white, wogs, cause you know, free speech.

It wouldn't surprise me, sadly. 😢

JHound · 10/08/2025 17:55

menopausalfart · 10/08/2025 17:46

@ilovesooty I imagine those who oppose the Red Guard would also like to be able to call my child a mong as she has learning disabilities, single mothers, slags/whores, and anyone that's not white, wogs, cause you know, free speech.

You know they would.

menopausalfart · 10/08/2025 17:57

I suppose that in a world moving towards greater inclusivity, they feel left out.

DeLaRuiz · 10/08/2025 17:59

In our racist training it came up that the current problem is from poc using the term “ white” derisively and that educating a reverse out of this new wave of racism was a full time job.

menopausalfart · 10/08/2025 18:03

@DeLaRuiz I'd probably direct my anger towards white people if I'd experienced racism for most of my life. I mean, I find it hard to say, not all men.

OneCoralCat · 10/08/2025 18:05

I would absolutely report that, yes.

People never fail to amaze me, bring racist during a course about being aware of racism is a new low though!

DeLaRuiz · 10/08/2025 18:08

menopausalfart · 10/08/2025 18:03

@DeLaRuiz I'd probably direct my anger towards white people if I'd experienced racism for most of my life. I mean, I find it hard to say, not all men.

Apparently it is re igniting racism amongst people, in a “ you call me white, I’ll call you black” way. Hence more racism than ever!

JHound · 10/08/2025 18:35

DeLaRuiz · 10/08/2025 17:59

In our racist training it came up that the current problem is from poc using the term “ white” derisively and that educating a reverse out of this new wave of racism was a full time job.

Did this happen?

JHound · 10/08/2025 18:36

DeLaRuiz · 10/08/2025 18:08

Apparently it is re igniting racism amongst people, in a “ you call me white, I’ll call you black” way. Hence more racism than ever!

Huh? What are you on about? Who thinks referring to a person as “black” or “white” is “igniting racism?”

Ilovecleaning · 11/08/2025 05:04

SpunkyPombear · 10/08/2025 12:42

Why, training can be beneficial if done well.

Would you rather people had these thoughts and didn't express them for re-educatiin

Agree. Orwellian would not be ‘training’ it would be ‘brainwashing’

DeLaRuiz · 11/08/2025 13:01

JHound · 10/08/2025 18:36

Huh? What are you on about? Who thinks referring to a person as “black” or “white” is “igniting racism?”

What am I on about? You think I am “ on about” something? Do you mean you haven’t heard of derision? You can’t conceive of derision being injected into words?

DeLaRuiz · 11/08/2025 13:03

JHound · 10/08/2025 18:35

Did this happen?

Yes, of course? Is it new to you? I’m in London. Are you not aware of racism being directed at being white?!

JHound · 11/08/2025 14:06

DeLaRuiz · 11/08/2025 13:03

Yes, of course? Is it new to you? I’m in London. Are you not aware of racism being directed at being white?!

It’s not the existence of racism aimed at white people I am questioning….

JHound · 11/08/2025 14:07

DeLaRuiz · 11/08/2025 13:01

What am I on about? You think I am “ on about” something? Do you mean you haven’t heard of derision? You can’t conceive of derision being injected into words?

You should it was suggested referring to people as “black” or “white” incites racism. Who on earth says that?

WiggyClawsThe2nd · 12/11/2025 20:20

Interested to know what happened OP if you are able to share?

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