Romanian dog rescue

[Preciousmemory]

I am in an awful situation that I can find no solution to. Please if any one could give me some advice.
i have rescued a Romanian dog which has turned out so badly.
He arrived 10 days ago and has serious problems I am not able to deal with so am asking if anyone can offer me advice.
The rescue have a policy that I must give him back to be rehomed but are not able to find anyone although it is a short time they are describing him on the advert as a dog that loves humans and children and dogs. A huge part of this is not right I have not tested him with a child but as for people he definitely does not like them , only me.
He attacks my husband in the morning, in the evening when he returns home from work and then randomly at any other time. The attacks are getting progressively worse. But yesterday he met my 80 year old tiny dad for the first time which I had also for the first time put a muzzle on him after 7 days of training with it.
The attack was so ferocious on my dad that he was foaming at the mouth leaping as high as his shoulders to grab him but because he was muzzled there was no damage. my dad immediately left. I despair to think what may have happened otherwise. My daughter turned up shortly after the same thing happened. I was thinking he maybe afraid of men but it seems not.
I have constantly tried to work with the Romanian Rescue which could take months for them to find a suitable home, the only option I have from them is to stick this traumatised dog into a kennel which will cause further damage to him, but I am not able to keep him in my home with this level of aggression.
Dog rescues are full up. I have contacted a few that specifically deal with dog aggression. I do not see how this poor dog can just be homed in a normal family environment as this will happen again. He is a large growing powerful dog that could cause serious damage to a person.
Thank you for reading , this is such an anxious problem that I see no solution to.
I am grateful for any advice possible .

There is only one solution. I know it's not what you want to hear but you will have a tragedy on your hands before much longer. I'm so sorry but you need to accept there is only one realistic outcome here. The only responsible thing to do is have the dog put to sleep. It is not difficult to get a dog from a UK rescue. And if it is far easier to get a dog like this imported instead of getting one from a local shelter then that in itself should raise serious questions.

Someone I know got a Romanian rescue. When he was brought over with a van load of others he and several others managed to escape when they were being taken out of the van and had to be trapped again. One poor thing was so terrified it pulled so hard on the lead it ended up strangling itself to death.

I have since held the belief that these dogs are just trapped on the streets and sold to British softies who pay hundreds of pounds for them. An excellent way for these so called charities to make a lot of money for very little outlay. A van load of these dogs can earn them thousands of pounds - much less than the cost of getting them to the UK.

None of it is in the interest of the dog. They are absolutely terrified of people. If these rescuers cared about the animals they would make sure that they were rehabilitated in Romania - used to humans, living inside a house, basic training. But no, the poor petrified creatures are put onto a plane in the cargo hold (which would terrify the most well rounded of dogs) and shipped off to another country which would be completely alien to them. Nothing is the same. Different smell, different sights, different feel, trapped in a house, strangers everywhere. No wonder they don’t cope. Yet they were probably very happy living on the streets.

This particular rescue had 42 Dogs delivered the same time on two vans. They do the “ Happy Paw Bus ‘ twice a month. At £490 per dog that is over £20k each trip twice a month.
in the last few days I have realised it is a lucrative business disguised as kindness. Foolishly I have been part of this which is sickening.
the poor puppy who tried to escape how awful and sad 💔

Easy money.

We have a rescue from Romania. We got her through a British charity that is local that supports a romanian charity. All above board. I met the dog in the UK before adopting. She met my other dog. We went for walks together etc..

We actually wanted a greyhound rescue and that was our first choice but I was so disappointed. We went to the greyhound rescue place. It was run by people that breed greyhounds for racing and are very much involved in the racing scene and had greyhounds they paid good money for as good racers Then when the poor dogs are no longer useful as racers they market them as rescue dogs.

I don't agree with greyhound racing at all and so don't want to support the breeders in this way. The rescue place we went to was an official "greyhound rescue" centre apparently. I was really surprised. I had assumed "greyhound rescue" would be rescuing greyhounds and would be against racing. Not that they would be breeders and v much actively involved in the racing scene.

Could you tell the charity that you've relinquished the dog to the police? Then have it PTS? They might back off with the threats once the police is involved.

(Fyi Happy Paws Bus is easy to Google, sounds like P4wprints to fr33dom)

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There are various Greyhound charities- But almost all take dogs from trainers after they have become injured or are non chasers - they don't necessarily personally agree with greyhound racing - quite the opposite, but for the dog's sake it's better to take them from a trainer directly, rather than them be turned loose with their ears hacked off to hide the tattoos, or sent to the knackery {In Eire this is legal as Greyhounds are ''agricultural animals''}

The wonderful ''Pet Levrieri'' {Italian, but works worldwide} orchestrated the closure and rehoming of almost 500 greyhounds in deplorable conditions from the Macau Canidrome - they were flown at the trainer's expense to new homes, where they settled in well - most of these were Australian dogs, but some Irish.

Some were racing at ten.

Some had osteosarcoma, many of the oldies had teeth so rotten that there were open holes into the dog's palate.

I'd love to see Greyhound racing banned worldwide - Wales looks to be the first UK Country to be doing this - good for 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Wales.

No it isn’t those . I think maybe the Uk dog importers all call it the Happy Paw Bus to make it sound like a lovely thing when they are in cages for up to 72 hours probably sedated as well as when ours was delivered I stood by the van and was the first to have delivered was quite taken back that could not hear one single sound from the van as if it was empty but it was full up.
I am running contract past a solicitor tomorrow but from what I am told here with posters it is not enforceable . They have by far breached many things. Have also researched the owner of the company tonight whose husband has been in prison for serious assaults so clearly things going on

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My goodness...this is awful! - Sounds like a really nasty outfit.

The contract they made you sign probably isn't legally enforceable -

People who sell puppies in UK with the contract ''must come back to me if unwanted''.... those are legally unenforceable, and meaningless, even when signed.

The internet is full of stories so like yours, these dogs are definitely being bred on purpose to ship to UK, and others are selling street dogs.

They bang on about ''kill shelters'' but make no mistake, there are ''kill shelters'' in UK and Ireland.

After 7 day hold, a dog either gets transferred to a rehoming centre {Probably the nice natured ones} or they are euthanised.

''Kill shelter'' sounds more dramatic.

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Might I suggest speaking to your vet in the morning & if they're in agreement having the dog humainly euthanized.
I'd just tell the "rescue" it died of natural causes & has been disposed of.

If you do this - don't use your local vet.

I have known of situations where rescues have wound up their followers to harrass and abuse the vets, to the point of physical harm and serious damage to the business.

£20k twice a month - kerching! What a lucrative trafficking business, all dressed up as animal welfare.

More reasons why importing/trafficking animals from overseas should be completely illegal. Happy Paws Bus, ffs.

No, they're street dogs - born on the streets and raised feral. They're caught and trafficked by these 'charities' as a money making exercise.

I've seen Happy Paws Bus used quite a bit by 'rescues'.

I almost went through with adopting a rescue from one of these places. I went to visit the dog in the UK 'rescue centre' and it felt very much like a dog/puppy farm. The dogs were all (unsurprisingly) wild. Immediately decided it wasn't for me.

OP, I really hope you do manage to speak to a solicitor. It feels like you just need some more reassurance that there will not be any legal come back for you. Getting the dog PTS would be the kindest thing to do for it. As well as the risk the dog might attack in the future, there is always a risk that another home wouldn't tolerate an aggressive dog and the dogs itself could be beaten.

Why does the OP need to involve the ‘charity’ - they have not kept their side of the contract, why should OP? She is now legally responsible for the dog.

I foster rescue dogs, mainly greyhounds and lurchers. They make fantastic pets.
I know a few fosterers that have ended up with Romanian rescues and every time they need to be PTS.
These " charities " are just a money making racket. The dogs they take from the streets are not ideal for homes at all. In fact it's no different to taking a badger into your home.

As a first time dog owner ( 9 yr old son at time) RSPCA home matched us with a skeletal Lurcher puppy.
(Travellers)
She was a wonderful dog- suited us perfectly- A very gentle, kind dog.
She loved children, probably because the kids on the site were the ones who played with her.
edit: Lurchers are generally lovely if given appropriate exercise- Greys are very mellow.

I'm in Ireland and unfortunately skeletal lurchers are ten a penny from Travellers. They are so overlooked and people tend to think they need loads of exercise. A good sniffy walk and some mental stimulation and cuddles.

My lurcher would be an absolute dick if he only got a sniffy walk, he does need to run and be a dog, but he is very chilled out around the house as long as he’s been out and is a lovely, sensitive, loyal pet who was a dream to train. He sleeps 90% of the time and isn’t at all bothered about being left on his own.

As you say, Lurchers are ten a penny and horribly over looked.

Those poor dogs, 72 hours as they were transported by road. Trauma onto already traumatised dogs.

OP don't beat yourself up, the charity (seriously) misled you and you are now trying very hard to do the responsible thing by you, the dog, and anyone who may come in contact with the dog. The fact you're feeling rubbish tells me you care. By starting this thread you've brought the potential pitfalls into people's consciousness. I know that I'll remember this and if I come across someone wanting to adopt from abroad I will tell them to research the charity very very carefully to ensure the dogs welfare is at the forefront. The same as I'd encourage people to make sure they follow advice on how to avoid puppy farms.

I'm reading all of this in horror. OP, I'm so sorry you're going through this. The poor dog, and what a dreadful industry.

Our dog is a rescue from Portugal, but we've been so lucky with him. He was clearly someone's pet at some point, and was abandoned when he was around 8 months old near a holiday resort. My MIL was staying there and made friends with him, then made it her mission to find him a home. He can be a bit funny with other dogs, but he's great with people - not an ounce of aggression in him. I'm in Scotland and we had no issues getting him over here. I'm realising now how extremely fortunate we've been!

She doesn't.

However having already involved them, they will be back in touch (eventually). If she starts to say 'dog died of natural causes mysteriously' or 'dog is magically fine now' .. they will start to dig around/ask for proof.

One of the ways they do this is to ring round vets local to the adopter and ask questions, and some of them are pretty good at getting the vet to acknowledge they've seen the dog.

I have known vets deny seeing the dog, because they have in fact not seen the dog, but the rescue attack them anyway, based on them being the nearest vet to the adopter!