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To think we’re lucky to be in Britain?

233 replies

BooomShakeTheRoom · 22/02/2025 13:52

  • Temperate climate with distinct seasons, all the more important and enjoyable as we see other areas of the world suffer with annual fires, floods, hurricanes etc.
  • Basic protection of human rights and freedom. Yes, politically we’re in a strange place globally and nationally (yes, looking at you Reform and Trump voters 😑) but - generally - you can be who you are with minimal risks. That really isn’t the case in many parts of the world still.
  • NHS - again, yes it’s stretched and not perfect but it’s still far better provision than most other people have in the world. I have friends and neighbours who have moved back to the UK just for the healthcare.
  • Fantastic school system. We have it VERY good compared to many countries. Again, some of my friends have moved back to the UK to access our free school system. I feel very lucky to be able to send my kids.
  • Pretty decent benefits and state support system. A LOT of people are housed and fed by the system who would otherwise be destitute.
  • World class maternity rights.
  • Good life/work balance for most. 35-40hrs per week is a lot less than many other countries expect.
  • Beautiful coastlines, national parks, vibrant cities, shops, parks, kids entertainment. Again, lots of communities around the world don’t have all of that accessible.

We hear a lot of doom and gloom, but for me at least, I feel very blessed to have won the postcode lottery to have been born here. Could things be better? Of course, certainly. And life can throw us problems regardless. But it could also be a whole lot worse and I’m really thankful for everything I have access to.

Just wanted to post this as media plays a big role in depressing people and I hope this post prompts people to think about what they do have, rather than what they don’t.

(I appreciate people feel differently, just wanted to see a positive post!)

OP posts:
Inmydreams88 · 22/02/2025 15:00

So lucky, and anyone that thinks we are not is completely ignorant to the world we actually live in.

maudelovesharold · 22/02/2025 15:03

There are pros and cons for living in most countries, but on the whole, I’m glad to be in the UK, and very thankful not to live in the USA, China or Russia, I just hope that our Government is going to be up to the inevitable challenges of dealing with these behemoths. Brexit, and now the growing realisation that the ‘special relationship’ with the USA was only ever smoke and mirrors has left us quite vulnerable, I think.

user263758918 · 22/02/2025 15:05

Having lived in other countries and the UK not being my home, I can honestly say it's not that great

The NHS is utterly horrific. Free, but you can't get an appointment.

State schooling leaves a lot to be desired 😵‍💫

There's a great welfare system because the tax is so high. Unsustainable

Hiphiphurrayfordishwashers · 22/02/2025 15:07

I think we are generally fortunate to be living in European countries. I live in France and regularly thank my lucky stars for the standard of living here.

CindereIIa · 22/02/2025 15:08

It could be a heck of a lot better though. I think it's gone so downhill. I think people who have complaints about the UK realise this, and that's what we are unhappy about.
I would not be surprised if my children emigrated, and would understand why.

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/02/2025 15:10

TheCatCameBack112 · Today 14:45
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Re the NHS, I had a really good experience this week, I called my GP at 8am, she phoned back at 8.30 and asked me to go in. I saw the ANP for a consultation and the HCA did an ECG.
The ANP was concerned enough to want more tests so phoned through to the local hospital's SDEC department. I saw a nurse and a doctor, had another ECG, bloods and chest x ray within 3 hours with results (no cardiac issues of concern).
The hospital was clean, the staff were courteous, there was water, juice and biscuits for patients in the waiting area. There was a trolley with activities and objects to support people with dementia or a learning disability. If I was in a fee paying system, that would have cost £5k plus, and couldn't have been any quicker. I'm going back to my GP next week for more bloods and follow up. I will never not be grateful for the NHS

That’s fantastic for you and I sincerely hope that you never find yourself sitting in a hard plastic chair (when you have spinal osteoarthritis) with sepsis, double pneumonia and what was eventually discovered - weeks later, we’re lucky my husband is still alive - to be a life threatening necrotic gallbladder that had become gangrenous, for 54 hours for a bed. No trolley or wheelchair available.

That was the worst occasion. Previously, since October, the waits were 30 hours and 18. A bed wasn’t made available on the 18 hour occasion at all. My husband was just sat in the A&E waiting room with IV antibiotics, potassium and saline solutions to treat acute kidney injury then sent home (which was why he was back in a week later sat for 54 hours: because he was discharged too soon, the primary cause of infection not having been discovered).

He was finally admitted and was in hospital for surgery on two occasions, with 2 1/2 and 3 week stays. His surgical team have been fantastic. The care and support he received from nursing and ancillary staff on wards was mostly pretty good. I did have to bring meals from home though because the hospital couldn’t provide his particular need of high protein but very low fat meals (because his gallbladder had died, he had malnutrition with various deficiencies).

However, at his last clinic appointment last week, we had to access his consultant by walking through A&E where the bed waiting time sign displayed “60 hours” and a 4 hour wait for triage.

One of the HCAs told us that just after Christmas, 183 people had been waiting in an understaffed A&E on one day.

(Blackpool Victoria Hospital).

Again, when we finally got through the system, I can’t stress just how fantastic his consults and surgical team were (and continue to be). Similarly, the paramedics. Outstanding every time.

A&E can’t continue like this, though. More and more people will die waiting.

Well, that’s that off my chest ! Sorry about the rant. We’re both exhausted.

bluejelly · 22/02/2025 15:13

I agree with the OP.
The UK is not perfect but most people are decent. My family and I have had excellent care from the NHS and my daughter did really well in an average state school. I have worked in the public sector for nearly 30 years and it is full of dedicated people working hard on limited resources.

I wish there was better support for people's mental health, for the low paid, for homeless/people living in temp accommodation and for asylum seekers though. I also wish the rich paid more tax.

unsync · 22/02/2025 15:13

It's better than being in Russia, the US or Middle East, but that's not saying much. When my current familial responsibilities end, I'm off. I do consider myself lucky to have dual nationality, I can't see things here getting any better despite the rhetoric.

marshmallowfinder · 22/02/2025 15:17

Disgraceful users these 'friends' of yours, to just move back for what they can get in the form of free health care and education. I can't stand that attitude.

SallyWD · 22/02/2025 15:18

I suppose we all have different experiences with the NHS but mine has been consistently excellent. Suspected cancer in my 30s, CT scan the very next day. Cancer confirmed that day and saw a consultant that week. Surgery four weeks later. Excellent follow-up care, including frequent scans, genetic testing, and counselling to help me deal with my anxiety.
Meanwhile, my American friend had exactly the same cancer as me, and has had a nightmare. She's at the mercy of her health insurance company, who frequently refuse scans or medication. She has only just finished paying off an extortionate bill from many years ago. We are very lucky.
I also felt a bit funny recently and saw a doctor the same day.
DH had symptoms of carpal tunnel last Friday and called the surgery on Friday afternoon. He had a physio appointment on Monday morning.
My son needed surgery last year. All done and dusted within a month.
My boss's son just had emergency surgery, done the same day as the problem was reported.
I do understand that my experience is different to many others. However, from my perspective when people say the NHS is dire and horrendous, it's just not true!! It's been bloody fantastic and life saving.

zoemum2006 · 22/02/2025 15:20

If you had asked me pre-2016 I'd have said I loved the way that the UK was a cultural bridge between the US and Europe.

I feel like quality of life has diminished in the last decade but wouldn't want to live anywhere else (maybe a bit more sunshine though!)

Snowmanscarf · 22/02/2025 15:21

Yes, we are lucky to be here. I’ve had both good emergency and routine nhs help from hospital and gp, and have managed to get appointments.

Good schools where I live.

Beautiful countryside.

Could do with a few more sunny days though, but Spring is just around the corner.

Araminta1003 · 22/02/2025 15:23

Yes, there is a lot to still be grateful for here. However, things are markedly worse than they were pre 2016 and the vibe is steady decline and that is depressing. Somewhere like Spain currently has good weather and an “on the up” vibe. I am still going to be encouraging my DC to spread their wings beyond this country. To see what else is out there. It is the down vibe that is getting to all of us now.
Also, with parts of Europe going right wing even more people will try and come here and things will get increasingly overcrowded because our systems cannot organise shit. It is all talk and no real follow through so I cannot see it getting much better here long term.
For my DC who are not going to inherit much but have great brains and work ethic, I do think some other countries offer better opportunities now. They will just be taxed to death here so no thanks.

OneTC · 22/02/2025 15:24

The fact you find the weather okay makes me view the rest of your post with suspicion

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/02/2025 15:24

SallyWD · Today 15:18

I suppose we all have different experiences with the NHS but mine has been consistently excellent. Suspected cancer in my 30s, CT scan the very next day. Cancer confirmed that day and saw a consultant that week. Surgery four weeks later. Excellent follow-up care, including frequent scans, genetic testing, and counselling to help me deal with my anxiety

I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2016. Mastectomy and recovering at home within them month.

Friend’s experience in the same situation with the same trust in 2024, agonising with weeks and weeks of waiting for just biopsy.

I myself was sent for a CT Scan after ultrasound identified a small tumour on one of my kidneys. I was referred at the end of February and finally got my CT in early September (after electing to go to a private hospital with NHS funding because the wait at my NHS hospital was longer still).

Services have been running down for years now where we are in NW England.

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/02/2025 15:26

(In 2024)

HRTQueen · 22/02/2025 15:27

there are many countries where life is far harder

but the decline in standard of living and public services of recent years is shocking

there is huge amounts of money and wealth about in the UK but it’s very poorly distributed

theboffinsarecoming · 22/02/2025 15:30

We aren't being bombed or shot at, there's no volcano threatening to blow sky high, we don't have earthquakes, we don't get monster hurricanes or storm surges, we don't get 3 metres of snow & total darkness in the winter, or months of 45 degrees with no rain in the summer. We don't get devastating forest fires destroying thousands of square miles of countryside or whole towns wiped off the face of the earth by tornadoes.. We don't have Trump.

On the whole, I think we are lucky, yes.

Talonz · 22/02/2025 15:31

There is only one thing about the UK that pisses me off.

That stretch of the A34 East of Oxford is a bottle-necking, shunty-fuck, speed-ticket-gathering, bollocksy, arse-wipe of an excuse for a road and I loathe it more than pesto, butter beans and loud shouty Americans.

So there.

ThighsYouCantControl · 22/02/2025 15:33

I’d rather live here than say, Ukraine or Gaza. Very lucky in that respect. But life is harder here than I wish it was due mainly to how much it costs to just exist. The last 14+ years have been brutal for many.

Also doesn’t feel like there’s distinct seasons. Mostly just seems to rain all the bloody time.

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/02/2025 15:33

Talonz · Today 15:31

There is only one thing about the UK that pisses me off.
That stretch of the A34 East of Oxford is a bottle-necking, shunty-fuck, speed-ticket-gathering, bollocksy, arse-wipe of an excuse for a road and I loathe it more than pesto, butter beans and loud shouty Americans.
So there

Feel better now, I hope 🤣

Talonz · 22/02/2025 15:34

Yes!

HellofromJohnCraven · 22/02/2025 15:36

Health system needs an overhaul
But yes, I agree. I see threads saying "you are mad to come here" but I reflect on my life
Had pioneering life saving surgery as a child. Had 3 kids, including stay in intensive care for one, can get all the medicines I need for £11 a month.
Good schools, decent job, great train service at the bottom of the road when I need it.
No tornados, forest fires, volcanos or earthquakes.
Decent laws and values.
I think people take all that for granted. You could have been born anywhere in the world. I an still grateful that I was born in the UK

TinklySnail · 22/02/2025 15:37

I love Britain. I am grateful for what we have compared to other countries.
No we aren’t perfect but I wouldn’t trade it in for anything.

Beekeepingmum · 22/02/2025 15:54

I agree. In the global lottery of places to be born the UK is pretty good. If the people who are miserable would probably be miserable anywhere.

Apart from the A34 around Oxford - that is shit.