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To think we’re lucky to be in Britain?

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BooomShakeTheRoom · 22/02/2025 13:52

  • Temperate climate with distinct seasons, all the more important and enjoyable as we see other areas of the world suffer with annual fires, floods, hurricanes etc.
  • Basic protection of human rights and freedom. Yes, politically we’re in a strange place globally and nationally (yes, looking at you Reform and Trump voters 😑) but - generally - you can be who you are with minimal risks. That really isn’t the case in many parts of the world still.
  • NHS - again, yes it’s stretched and not perfect but it’s still far better provision than most other people have in the world. I have friends and neighbours who have moved back to the UK just for the healthcare.
  • Fantastic school system. We have it VERY good compared to many countries. Again, some of my friends have moved back to the UK to access our free school system. I feel very lucky to be able to send my kids.
  • Pretty decent benefits and state support system. A LOT of people are housed and fed by the system who would otherwise be destitute.
  • World class maternity rights.
  • Good life/work balance for most. 35-40hrs per week is a lot less than many other countries expect.
  • Beautiful coastlines, national parks, vibrant cities, shops, parks, kids entertainment. Again, lots of communities around the world don’t have all of that accessible.

We hear a lot of doom and gloom, but for me at least, I feel very blessed to have won the postcode lottery to have been born here. Could things be better? Of course, certainly. And life can throw us problems regardless. But it could also be a whole lot worse and I’m really thankful for everything I have access to.

Just wanted to post this as media plays a big role in depressing people and I hope this post prompts people to think about what they do have, rather than what they don’t.

(I appreciate people feel differently, just wanted to see a positive post!)

OP posts:
ThisUsernameIsNowTaken · 24/02/2025 12:32

SallyWD · 24/02/2025 11:51

Yes, I agree with you but plenty of people do still smoke. As is often the way in this country, it's those living in deprivation who are more likely to smoke, eat unhealthily etc. We need to target the poorest of people to try and change bad habits. However, that is easier said than done. Many people living in poverty live miserable lives, don't want to give up pleasure such as smoking and probably lack the time and inclination to start cooking healthy meals from scratch. A whole culture change is need.

That's a fair comment. Making these changes requires bandwidth. I'm fortunate but when I'm stressed, exercise & a good diet are the first things that I'll drop!

Liker · 24/02/2025 12:44

If you read between the lines, a lot of posters on here are angry and hurt by Brexit and yearn for us to return. So they comment the UK is third world and EU countries (Sweden comes up a lot and probably was good 10 years ago but no more) are utopia.

Does nobody ever travel? Anyone been to parts of Greece and seen the sad sights of migrants begging amongst the traffic or seen the awful streets of Malmo, Paris or Berlin - if you've been, you will know what I am talking about.

We are lucky to be in Britain.

The NHS is easy to knock, but free at point of use will be used (and abused) by folk with minor ailments who add to the burden and waiting times.

If you charge £50 for a doctors appointment like in Ireland, how many would put off an A&E visit or trip to the docs. Surgeries would be near empty.

No one is willing to pay for private dentistry. How would they cope if we moved to a European model and started charging for each doctors visit, clinic visit? Sales of smelling salts would increase, that's for sure!!

The UK is a good place to live. Ignore the knockers.

Girasoli · 24/02/2025 12:49

I think we are pretty lucky in most of Europe to be honest.

I've only got first hand experience of Italy and the UK (and friends from Spain and Switzerland), and they've all got their benefits and faults.

Maddy70 · 24/02/2025 18:40

Tacocatgoatcheesepizza · 23/02/2025 14:17

@Maddy70 where did you move to if you don’t mind me asking?

Spain ;)

Tacocatgoatcheesepizza · 24/02/2025 22:13

Not yet, but did you read the news reports of the recent police visit to a grandmother who posted on SM suggesting that her (Labour) councillor should resign over the Whatsapp scandal? Vance is an idealogue, but he had the makings of a point about freedom of speech in the UK under socialism.

@Vinvertebrate I must correct this.

She was visited by the police to advise that a complaint of harassment had been made against her - Presumably by the councillor, and clearly a ridiculous complaint but nonetheless they are obliged to inform her of this. They were not visiting her because of her posts. https://x.com/monkemma/status/1893712899006214620?s=46&t=QZmuPuOD_C6P5KvS0s0tSw

To think we’re lucky to be in Britain?
user1471516498 · 24/02/2025 22:19

Vinvertebrate · 24/02/2025 11:28

Try making a joke about the Government, on the phone with a relative and losing your job or having a security team drag you out of your bed to just get beaten and interrogated if you're lucky, or disappear for a while to be "reeducated" if you're not.

Not yet, but did you read the news reports of the recent police visit to a grandmother who posted on SM suggesting that her (Labour) councillor should resign over the Whatsapp scandal? Vance is an idealogue, but he had the makings of a point about freedom of speech in the UK under socialism.

DH and I no longer feel "lucky" to be in the UK, despite DH growing up in a war zone and arriving as a highly-skilled migrant working for the NHS. No high net worth individual (or anyone with a choice) is going to stay in a country where basic or emergency healthcare is not available, or only available if you're lucky. As a senior consultant with a clinical management role, ever-increasing amounts of his time are spent on negligence litigation. Many times, the claim boils down to lack of beds/space/capacity - the UK simply has not planned for the massive increases in its population, its elderly or its welfare state. GDP per capita is declining and the burden of income tax on a diminishing few feels unsustainable to our family, even though our salaries are high on paper.

I am no Trump fangirl (quite the opposite), but we are looking at a US move in the next few years. Luckily doctors are in demand everywhere (and the salaries and lifestyle far exceed those available here). I am not a fan of the US health system either (although it's worth remembering that the quality of healthcare for insured patients is outstanding) I am very much in favour of a European-style insurance system as a replacement for the NHS.

Are we under Socialism now? Our current government is about as centrist as it is possible to be.

ACynicalDad · 24/02/2025 22:31

There's a lot to be grateful for, national debt is petrifying though, NHS is awful and state education (particularly secondary) is awful in some places. But we're fortunate compared to a massive proportion of the human population.

Vinvertebrate · 25/02/2025 11:51

Tacocatgoatcheesepizza · 24/02/2025 22:13

Not yet, but did you read the news reports of the recent police visit to a grandmother who posted on SM suggesting that her (Labour) councillor should resign over the Whatsapp scandal? Vance is an idealogue, but he had the makings of a point about freedom of speech in the UK under socialism.

@Vinvertebrate I must correct this.

She was visited by the police to advise that a complaint of harassment had been made against her - Presumably by the councillor, and clearly a ridiculous complaint but nonetheless they are obliged to inform her of this. They were not visiting her because of her posts. https://x.com/monkemma/status/1893712899006214620?s=46&t=QZmuPuOD_C6P5KvS0s0tSw

The police are only obliged to investigate if there is reasonable suspicion of a crime having been committed. The police themselves admitted during their visit that no crime was committed. The correct police response would be to tell the ridiculous Labour councilor to jog on, and do nothing (just like they do when shoplifting is reported).

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