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To move over a dog?

223 replies

Renovationhell · 20/02/2025 19:35

I literally can’t stand it any more. NDN have a dog with separation anxiety. It howls every second that they leave it. It starts as they drive away and continues till they return. If they go out for tea or whatever I can’t go to bed until they get back, my life is ruled by what time they are in the house.

I live in an old Victorian semi. I love this house and will loose money on it. If I sell tomorrow it’s not finished so I won’t get a good price. I have no money to finish it either so will have to sell as a project. I love the location. But I’m being driven insane and driven from my home by a fucking dog. I’m a dog lover and have dogs myself but this is something else.

Neighbors are sympathetic but can’t do anything to change it. Apparently they have tried many times. They have to leave the house and it does nothing but scream like a posessed wolf until they come back. They know it does it and don’t care.

Soundproofing is too expensive. I have no money and the party wall has 4 shared fireplaces so apparently it will be next to impossible.

So moving is my only option isn’t it? Has anyone else made this decision and regretted it? It’s a young dog so waiting it out isn’t an option I think I’ll have lost my shit by then. 😭

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AmeliaTangfastic · 20/02/2025 21:04

sandyhappypeople · 20/02/2025 21:01

so deal with the problem through official channels then.

Tricking someone else into taking the problems off your hands is so underhand, you haven't even tried to resolve the issue.

Totally agree. I can't believe people are saying "just move" because op "hates confrontation" so doesn't want to deal with it.

I didn't know you'd need to declare this if selling as a pp has said - but if that is true then good.

I'm sorry you're suffering with the noise op, but "just move" is not the best idea.

The neighbours probably have no idea how bad it is as you aren't being direct or persistent enough and they never have to hear it

TopOfTheCliff · 20/02/2025 21:07

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DonnyBurrito · 20/02/2025 21:09

Renovationhell · 20/02/2025 20:59

Yes of course I would. But at the same time I didn’t deserve this shit either. I didn’t decide to get a dog and let it scream daily ruining someone else’s life 🙁 I didn’t decide to buy a semi detached house knowing I had a dog with separation anxiety.

Let’s face it nobody would buy it. And I’ll be stuck here forever till the dog finally dies.

Put your big girl pants on and sort it out? Have you even looked into the council noise nuisance complaint procedure, as quite a few others have also suggested? The council can sort this, as many others have said.

That you'd rather place the issue at the feet of some unsuspecting victim and put them in this exact scenario to deal with instead might/should lose you a lot of sympathy here.

Nina1013 · 20/02/2025 21:10

They need to work around the needs of their dogs, or they need to rehome their dogs.

One of mine is a little swine (said through gritted teeth, as this is the understatement of the century!!). We actually moved house, including a small fortune in SDLT, purely to find a more secluded spot to stop the little (insert whatever word takes your fancy here) from being so stressed and anxious. We were already detached but he likes to know that NOBODY can see his house. And don’t even think about coming to post anything through the door, because that’s highly unreasonable too….

We did it because we couldn’t stand how stressed and anxious he was, and it’s made a huge difference to his and our lives.

If they can bear to put their dog through that level of stress, they shouldn’t have it. But they also may not know….

Zanatdy · 20/02/2025 21:11

you need to speak to them again, and explain you sympathise but ask them not to go out when you need to put DC to bed. They will have to find dog friendly pubs and take the dog, take the dog to drop the kids.

My friends dog has separation anxiety too and tragically she is dying from cancer right now, all happened very quickly 2 months ago, and we are days / couple of weeks away at most now. I am looking after her dog, and I live in a flat, so I cannot leave him in the flat. He also barks, non stop, not just whines. Today I had to take DD to the doctors, so had to leave him, and he barked the whole time (I checked in on my internal ring camera). I have to ask a friend to care for him during the day when in the office as it’s so bad for the neighbours to just leave him. I have to take him everywhere i need to go. They need to do more to stop the impact this is having on your life.

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 20/02/2025 21:12

I would go nuts. I'm so sorry.

CaptainBeanThief · 20/02/2025 21:12

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You are fucking deranged.
Scum

Barney16 · 20/02/2025 21:13

I'm surprised they don't take it with them. There are dogs everywhere these days. Is it a Bichon by any chance? They have terrible separation anxiety and can't be left for longer than, realistically, thirty minutes. A relative had one and essentially never left it alone. Or as someone else has mentioned drafted in people it knew if it absolutely had to be left. I would go round and see them again. They haven't really done anything from what you have said so far. They either need to take it with them, do shifts with it, find a sitter or re-home it, which seems drastic but they aren't meeting it's needs which is mean. It's causing you massive stress and worry which just isn't fair.

Bigcat25 · 20/02/2025 21:14

Perhaps the dog could be put on meds, or they could maybe bring the dog to some of their errands. Another option is have one parent stay home with the dog more.

Perhaps you could sue for the cost of soundproofing.

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 20/02/2025 21:15

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Completely unhinged.

LurkyMcLurkinson · 20/02/2025 21:16

It seems like you’re taking a very defeatist attitude towards this situation. Why on Earth would you sell your house at a possibly reduced cost, lose money in fees and have the stress of moving without first trying to resolve the issue with some of the many options still available to you. I appreciate you may be conflict avoidant but that’s extreme. As a starting point you need to tell your neighbours (in writing if needs be) that the current situation is not acceptable and you expect them to find a solution, such as not leaving the dog alone, very quickly, otherwise you’ll have no choice but to involve the council. You also need to start a diary of the disruption, gather recordings and get a friend or neighbour to agree to be a witness to support your claims about the noise so if that’s your next steps you’ve already got all the evidence.

Renovationhell · 20/02/2025 21:16

I don’t want to kill the dog. As I’ve said I like dogs. I own dogs. I have no problem with the dog itself, it seems nice enough. I just don’t want to hear it!

I will look into the council. I did initially but apparently it’s worse than useless and won’t help, as people who have tried it before tell me and also what I read on the internet! A neighbour who also had a problem long ago told me it’s so hard to prove a problem and because this dog does not cry all day it’s practically impossible to prosecute them.

That’s why I didn’t report as I didn’t want a huge don’t buy this house warning stamped on an already hard to sell property if my own mental health needs out. Selfish as that may be.

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Never2many · 20/02/2025 21:18

Just report @New posts on this thread. Refresh page
inciting animal cruelty is actually a crime. So hopefully they’ll be banned at best.

Renovationhell · 20/02/2025 21:18

Barney16 · 20/02/2025 21:13

I'm surprised they don't take it with them. There are dogs everywhere these days. Is it a Bichon by any chance? They have terrible separation anxiety and can't be left for longer than, realistically, thirty minutes. A relative had one and essentially never left it alone. Or as someone else has mentioned drafted in people it knew if it absolutely had to be left. I would go round and see them again. They haven't really done anything from what you have said so far. They either need to take it with them, do shifts with it, find a sitter or re-home it, which seems drastic but they aren't meeting it's needs which is mean. It's causing you massive stress and worry which just isn't fair.

It’s a German shepherd. Not small or quiet

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DinoLil · 20/02/2025 21:19

Environmental health.

My rescue dog has developed separation anxiety. I now have a dog trainer and a dog sitter to sort this out. I won't leave her alone because it's not fair on my neighbours, and it's not fair on my dog.

Your neighbours need to take responsibility and reporting them as a noise nuisance to start off with is the only way. Keep a diary, too.

Funnywonder · 20/02/2025 21:19

alwaysdeleteyourcookies · 20/02/2025 21:15

Completely unhinged.

Probably best to ignore that sad little individual.

cinnamonbunfight · 20/02/2025 21:19

crazyBadger · 20/02/2025 20:11

Record the dog.... Then play it back at full volume when they get home EVERY TIME.

They don't currently do anything as it doesn't affect them -they don't hear the dog, it's not a problem they need to solve .

This. Do this.

Mirabai · 20/02/2025 21:20

Don’t consider moving before you’ve exhausted all avenues to try and get this resolved.

Barney16 · 20/02/2025 21:22

Renovationhell · 20/02/2025 21:18

It’s a German shepherd. Not small or quiet

That would be a loud noise then. Ring the council and see if they can help. It must be like torture. They aren't acting responsibly at all

DinoLil · 20/02/2025 21:23

Oh, and my neighbour has a dog and I've thought I've heard her howling regularly. For hours on end. I mentioned it to my neighbour because it's the first time in 6yrs I've heard their dog howl. It's not their dog. It's their neighbour's dog the other side of them! We're in a Georgian terrace.

I'm keeping a record of it, because that's not right at all.

Tulipvase · 20/02/2025 21:24

Chuchoter · 20/02/2025 20:24

The fog can be given valerian which is very calming. Feelwells Goodnight are excellent and inexpensive.

These would be a good start in helping the dog -

amzn.eu/d/9XtoGZJ

Would you suggest them to your neighbour? If they love they would want to help relive its distress.

Do you think these actually work? Our dog hates the car and I wonder if these might help.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 20/02/2025 21:30

Renovationhell · 20/02/2025 20:52

Yes you’re right. I meant they are always chatty, say hello that type of thing. I didn’t want to have some sort of neighbourly feud going on, who has time in a busy life for that!

The dog sounds really upset and distressed. It’s not barking at something. I don’t think this is something easily trained or solved. I’m not sure how anyone can commit to never going out again so it feels hopeless? I will grow a pair and speak to them though.

I’ve been doing some calculations and can afford to move to the detached, just. It would depend on valuations. I wouldn’t want to declare it to a new buyer or I would never sell and be stuck here forever (or until it dies at which point I may have lost it!)

You're being ridiculous! There are a number of solutions to this, but instead you're calculating costs of moving house.

You could instigate an Environmental Health complaint - but you're unsure because someone you know had no success, and you read the same online.

The owners could hire a dog sitter/take the dog daily to a dog sitter.

The owners could hire a professional trainer to work with the dog.

The owners could rehome the dog (last resort).

Instead, you'll spend thousands moving out of a house you love, because for some reason you cannot seem to get to grips with actually making your neighbours deal with this issue because they're nice.

I'm just gonna go and hit my head off a brick wall....

PivotPivotPIVOTTTT · 20/02/2025 21:32

I can’t help but feel like it’s a bit of mixed messages….on one hand someone says could you watch it (which you have no obligation to do) and you say my dog would eat it (insinuating it’s a small dog), then in another you say it’s not small it’s a German shepherd..it all makes me feel there’s more to the story

Bloodylovecheese · 20/02/2025 21:32

Invite your neighbours to your house so they can hear what you have to put up with.
You can record the dog, but I think them hearing it first hand would be better.
Make them stay for a drink, and realise how bad the noise is.
Then give them a list of local doggy day carers, training clubs, behaviour experts and medication that they can administer and give them a week to sort it out.
Tell them if they won't do anything next steps will be council, legal and anything else you can think of.
If nothing changes, go round again.
Make recordings and blast out, play the bloody macarena at full volume at 6am every weekend if you need to.
I'd have no time for that crap you're dealing with.

BellesAndGraces · 20/02/2025 21:33

Well they are selfish neighbours and really lucked out having someone next door who is so conflict avoidant they would rather sell their own home and lose thousands than do so much as contact the council to complain.

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