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Do you believe in Karma?

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Rainydays321 · 19/02/2025 13:42

Or like my Mum used to say “ what comes around goes around!” I think its a fascinating topic and thought it would be fun to see if anyone have any examples of karna, do you believe that whatever energy you put out, it will come back to you? I know my SIL was particularly horrible to me and the advice I was given was “not to worry, the wheel turns” waiting on that wheel to turn 🤣 Any stories or examples?

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Rainydays321 · 22/02/2025 11:10

Snippit · 22/02/2025 10:37

Had a SIL who was a complete and utter bitch to me, bordering on bullying. Someone pointed out to me that she was most likely jealous. Upon having had enough of her and sending her to Coventry over 10 years ago, her life has literally fallen to pieces. She had an affair, now divorced, on and off with the so called boyfriend, nearly homeless, most of the family refuse to speak to her. Even her sons were embarrassed by her behaviour.

I refer to this situation as Karma, I can’t stand the sight of her. She had the cheek to tell my hubby, her brother, that it’s time we talked. I explained to him that she hasn’t changed, her own sister has nothing to do with her, their mum apologised to me for her behaviour. This may sound callous but the only way I deal with this is she’s dead to me. She’s a drain and a negative influence, absolutely vile.

She sounds like my SIL, I just dont understand how she can go through life being so absolutely horrible, like, why would you not want to be a nice person? I think we are slowly starting to see signs of “karma” though whilst myself and my husband seem to be getting an abundance of love and good happenings atm, so I will take that 🥰💖 Im sorry you had to have such a horrible experience with your SIL as well, it really does break you and your self confidence xx

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ssd · 22/02/2025 11:47

I dont believe in karma at all.

Leafy74 · 22/02/2025 11:49

I get great comfort from my belief in karma

For me it means I can be horrible to total strangers and walk away knowing they deserved it.

zingally · 22/02/2025 12:42

I believe in karma, and that generally you get out of life what you put in.

One of my favourite examples of this was in the very first few years of my teaching career. I was being badly bullied by the deputy head, who then went on to become head after her predecessor retired.
Things came to such a head that I quit, getting a large financial settlement, equivalent to about 8 months pay. An absolute fortune at age 23/24.

About a year later I heard on the grapevine that this woman ended up being "escorted off the premises" after they discovered "serious financial irregularities."

I plug her name into Google every couple of years, and as far as I can ascertain, even with pretty significant deep-dives, she's never worked in education again. She was only perhaps in her late 40s/early 50s, so nowhere near retirement age.

To me, that's perfect karma.

Rainydays321 · 22/02/2025 12:45

zingally · 22/02/2025 12:42

I believe in karma, and that generally you get out of life what you put in.

One of my favourite examples of this was in the very first few years of my teaching career. I was being badly bullied by the deputy head, who then went on to become head after her predecessor retired.
Things came to such a head that I quit, getting a large financial settlement, equivalent to about 8 months pay. An absolute fortune at age 23/24.

About a year later I heard on the grapevine that this woman ended up being "escorted off the premises" after they discovered "serious financial irregularities."

I plug her name into Google every couple of years, and as far as I can ascertain, even with pretty significant deep-dives, she's never worked in education again. She was only perhaps in her late 40s/early 50s, so nowhere near retirement age.

To me, that's perfect karma.

chefs kiss 🤌🤌

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ConsuelaHammock · 22/02/2025 12:56

I don’t believe in karma.

iamnotalemon · 22/02/2025 13:09

I like to believe in it as it makes me feel better, but whether it happens, I don't know.

Though saying that, I was bullied by a colleague and they did get their comeuppance so maybe it does work.

Cheeseburger85 · 24/02/2025 12:49

To believe in karma you ideally need to believe in rebirth. That's where people are going wrong.

Karma simply means cause and effect. If you treat others badly, you will likely get stabbed in the back eventually.

But say it doesn't happen, that doesn't mean in a future life you won't suffer. Karma isn't instant, it can take a lifetime. There aren't "bad" people, people just do bad things. And just because they look like it's all good for them, they could end up worse off later. For example, a racist anti immigrant person may well end up an immigrant in a future life.

Rainydays321 · 24/02/2025 13:15

Cheeseburger85 · 24/02/2025 12:49

To believe in karma you ideally need to believe in rebirth. That's where people are going wrong.

Karma simply means cause and effect. If you treat others badly, you will likely get stabbed in the back eventually.

But say it doesn't happen, that doesn't mean in a future life you won't suffer. Karma isn't instant, it can take a lifetime. There aren't "bad" people, people just do bad things. And just because they look like it's all good for them, they could end up worse off later. For example, a racist anti immigrant person may well end up an immigrant in a future life.

I 100% believe in the afterlife and re-birth :)

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PassingStranger · 24/02/2025 13:20

You would never know. How do you measure what's Karma and what isnt?

Dotjones · 24/02/2025 13:37

I don't believe in karma in the sense that there is a hidden force that hands out justice. It's a misunderstanding based on the idea that every action has a reaction or that matter can't be destroyed or created, believe those things and it becomes plausible that the same is true for justice.

The idea is pretty offensive if you get into the detail of it, especially if you're talking about terrible things happening to babies. What exactly did Ian Watkins' victims do (presumably) in their previous lives to warrant the sort of treatment he subjected them to? More to the point, if you believe that some kind of "karma" was at work and it was some form of justice being served up, surely that means you believe he was acting as a servant of justice therefore his actions are excusable? Clearly that's not true, his crimes were utterly appalling. I'm just unsure how anyone can believe in karma in these sorts of cases.

Then take Hitler, widely regarded as one of the most evil men in history. Did "karma" pay him back by cornering him in a bunker so that he committed suicide? Surely that's not enough punishment given what he did. So let's assume karma is going to affect him in future lives. What sort of punishment will pay for his sins, for the millions who suffered and died because of him?

I think the only way karma could exist would be if we are living in a simulated/scripted reality. Maybe life is a form of fiction written by some unknown intelligence. Everything that happens has been predetermined, programmed. In those circumstances then maybe our author has written a story where justice is served equally upon all.

Seems unlikely though.

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