Do you believe in Karma?

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Or like my Mum used to say “ what comes around goes around!” I think its a fascinating topic and thought it would be fun to see if anyone have any examples of karna, do you believe that whatever energy you put out, it will come back to you? I know my SIL was particularly horrible to me and the advice I was given was “not to worry, the wheel turns” waiting on that wheel to turn 🤣 Any stories or examples?

I have a good friend that is constantly in debt, had an affair and generally caused problems for herself, but she was also very lucky - received inheritance that paid her debt off, husband forgave affair and they are happy now. I always wondered why she was so lucky but then I realised she was actually the kindest person I know. She’s paid the debts of her beautician who had the bailiffs at the door during her treatment, gives to the homeless on the streets, always wanting to help me and others out etc., and I realise why she was lucky. I’ve started doing the same when I see someone who needs help, whenever I can (including said friend!) and it does make me feel better about myself and maybe I just notice small lucky breaks more now, but life does seem nicer

That’s not karma though. That’s pure bad luck and unfairness and I’m sorry for your friend. Karma is when life comes back to bite you for treating others badly.

Sadly no. I have seen too many awful people have everything and really lovely people have nothing but disaster after disaster.

i believe we are never free from the consequences of our actions, good or bad .

No, I believe actions come with consequences.

They do eventually.

No of course not. Terrible things happen to good people and children all the time. Life is just random.

I've known too many horrible people getting away with charmed lives, so no, not really.

So when bad things happen to people it is payback?

And good things happen to bad people so even if it believed in it, it makes no sense to me i just think people say it to make themselves feel better really

Yes I believe in karma .. I've seen it a few times .. but i also believe bad things happen to good people

No such thing as karma.

No that's not Karma that's terrible bad luck . Karma is when others have treated others badly , screwed them over then hit their comeuppance.

And she’d probably have her own view on why you deserve “karma”

that is the thing with karma… both parties involved presumably see themself as the “goodie” and the other person who deserves “karma”

You sister in law may say something along the lines of

“alienated my brother from the family by being extremely controlling, always ruined family occasions by being argumentative and antagonistic, always tried to put other people down by telling us what a good wife and mother she is”

Karma? No. I’ve seen too many awful things happen to decent people.

I do believe though that, unless you are an actual psychopath, doing awful things to other people comes from a place of deep unhappiness and self loathing. And whilst these people may look, at least on the outside, like they are “living their best life” consequence free, I don’t think that is true. I think they can pretend but, in the dead of the night, when it’s quiet and you have nothing but your own thoughts? They know they are not good people and they hate themselves even more. Don’t know if that’s karma but do I think it would be an awful way to live.

I wonder why some people are born lucky and sail through life without incident. Often, the nicest people I know have had one tragedy after another.

The saying 'things happen for a reason' is absolute rubbish (just read the news).
We are all responsible for our own lives and mistakes but some mystical kind of karma does not make sense.

You do realise I havent actually kept her brother away from her dont you?? I was being sarcastic.

Not necessarily karma, but I do go along with the positive/negative energy thing. I try to be a nice person and not do anything bad, because I do think if you do something bad, something bad may happen to you.

My MIL could be an awful woman (though I've read of a lot worse on MN). Made me feel I wasn't good enough for her son, and she was nasty to me when I was dating him. Only became a bit nicer once DGC arrived. She died a slow and painful death from cancer before she was 60. Her son, who I eventually married, was a chip off of the block and was emotionally and financially abusive. A very selfish man towards me and DC, but Mr Niceguy to others. He too died before 60 from cancer. Probably a coincidence, but I do wonder if their negative energies affected their health.

Oh dear op
did you really not understand what I’m trying to say

if your SIL were here, in guessing her view would be that you did and you deserve karma

Forty years of good deeds = 8 quids worth of free gin?

Not sure that's the right exchange rate for karma.

I don’t believe in ‘karma’. It makes me laugh though when the folk who bang on about karma seem to forget that their idea of karma will catch up with them too.

I think karma is often a kind of confirmation bias.
If someone has done you wrong, you look out for and enjoy any evidence of their come uppance.
I worked with an absolute bitch who made my job untenable after years of effort on my part. She then went on to bully numerous others whilst sleeping with a senior manager.
She left and went to work for a very corporate business, where she was let go for making a pass at a senior manager. That made me laugh.

I did understand thank you, I know what you’re saying.

Yeah this.

Apparently I'm supposed to be learning all these lessons from being treated badly, and treated worse when I try to address being treated badly in the first place. While those who do it continue without second thought.

Had a SIL who was a complete and utter bitch to me, bordering on bullying. Someone pointed out to me that she was most likely jealous. Upon having had enough of her and sending her to Coventry over 10 years ago, her life has literally fallen to pieces. She had an affair, now divorced, on and off with the so called boyfriend, nearly homeless, most of the family refuse to speak to her. Even her sons were embarrassed by her behaviour.

I refer to this situation as Karma, I can’t stand the sight of her. She had the cheek to tell my hubby, her brother, that it’s time we talked. I explained to him that she hasn’t changed, her own sister has nothing to do with her, their mum apologised to me for her behaviour. This may sound callous but the only way I deal with this is she’s dead to me. She’s a drain and a negative influence, absolutely vile.

I don't. I consistently put others before myself and go out of my way to help people, even strangers. I don't do it for any reward like karma, I just can't bear the thought of someone needing help and not getting it. But life is more often than not a struggle for me.

Examples of why I don't believe...

i. Just after Christmas, a lady I didn't know posted on a FB group that she had a pigeon in her garden unable to fly and asked what to do. When she learned the nearest animal sanctuary was an hour's round trip, she was reluctant to take it there. I ended up taking it there and two weeks ago the sanctuary rang to say it was better and ready to come back to my town and be released.

While I was inside the sanctuary, someone drove into my parked car and drove away!!! Gee, thanks karma!!

ii. My abusive arsehole of an ex-stepdad, beat me black and blue from when I was aged 6 to 16. I ended up having a breakdown at 16 and spent a decade on Prozac, then years of counselling to get over the abuse. Essentially having 25 years of my life marred by him. Police couldn't do anything when I reported him for historical abuse and he's lived the life of Riley, loads of money, and a long life, he's 80 this year. The wanker deserves to rot.

So no, I don't believe in karma.