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Agressive slandering neigbour and DWP data breach.

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slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 02:10

Can't sleep for stress.
DWP sent my carer letters to my address as a care of address as agreed by me, as she was sofa surfing.

For unknown reasons they then changed it to violent next door neighbors address! (She does have a DWP claim)

NDN sat on this for some time. and no one else knew.
We now know that two years ago carer had received a single justice conviction and fine for an out of date student train ticket discount card, that she was unaware of. It's grown to £950 and a few months after she stated working with me bailiffs had been given next doors address by/via DWP and went there. Neighbor sat on that for a few months too.

Then out it all came along with allegations that a UC claim had also been applied for, and a catalogue supposedly set up, and defaulted on over £550, supposedly with bailiffs too. But, no paperwork, just shouting NDN.
TBH wasn't sure if we should believe her.

Weeks later NDN finally handed over one DWP letter and the bailiff letter only,
DWP say no UC claim ever made, NDN wont give even the name of catalogue, let alone paperwork. Carers credit score hasn't changed. Police have said Action Fraud, who said no evidence so no fraud.

Bailiffs returned their debt to court after it was shown no attempt to hide or deceive, (plus she brought a full price ticket) DWP couldn't explain why they changed carers address to NDN but said all OK now.

NDN has made a couple of public scenes, but told produce paperwork as impossible to do anything further without it.

Tonight I have been seriously screamed at, struggled to get the woman out of my hall that she's accessed, and had serious slanderous unrelated rubbish along with claims it's fraudulent for me to have a carer, screamed up the street and threats of lies to the landlord, for a prolonged time causing people to stop and watch. Apparently months later she claims she's had another DWP letter for carer.

DWP can't confirm or deny, but admitted they had sent letters to my address then inexplicably to next door. They can't input carers new address as they say her flat number doesn't exist, (it has to, it's a block of not new flats and each has a number - no letters) then said they can't even input mine to end this, as the computer just defaults back to NDN each time they do!

They can't explain it, and say they can't block carers mail wrongly going out to this woman, even though they know, and that it's causing huge issues.

Poor carers personal info (with added BS) is being shouted all over the street, and it's allowing NDN to shout outrageous untrue claims that I've stolen from and defrauded named individuals and organizations and what a scummy person I am. It's a horrible data breach and DWP saying they can't explain it or fix it.

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Whatevershallidowithmylife · 18/02/2025 02:21

Why are you dealing with your carers business? I suggest she goes to CAB for assistance

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 02:28

TBH because I'm trapped between needing her and she can't cope, English isn't her first language and she has her own issues, so we've done it together, and knowing that NDN will carry on making it my problem even if she goes.

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Glitchymn1 · 18/02/2025 02:40

Information commissioner’s office? I’d report it to them as a breach of GDPR.

Pippa12 · 18/02/2025 02:45

Who is caring for who here? This ‘carer’ is bringing you alot of stress!

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 02:56

Glitchymn1 Have just had a look. Thank you.

Pippa12 You're not wrong though not really her fault.
I need lots of physical help and it's a horribly underpaid position at under £2 ph, so if you don't have a family member you do have to take whoever is desperate enough and be accommodating and basically train them up in return.
It is increasingly ND young people with MH issues who can't get anything better.

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CaptainFuture · 18/02/2025 02:58

it's a horribly underpaid position at under £2 ph surely that wage isn't legal?!

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lnks · 18/02/2025 03:05

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 02:56

Glitchymn1 Have just had a look. Thank you.

Pippa12 You're not wrong though not really her fault.
I need lots of physical help and it's a horribly underpaid position at under £2 ph, so if you don't have a family member you do have to take whoever is desperate enough and be accommodating and basically train them up in return.
It is increasingly ND young people with MH issues who can't get anything better.

Nobody is paying her £2 an hour

BlondeFool · 18/02/2025 03:08

She can't get £2 an hour. It's illegal.

Surely she has a better address to use?

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 03:09

CaptainFuture · 18/02/2025 02:58

it's a horribly underpaid position at under £2 ph surely that wage isn't legal?!

You'd think wouldn't you, but that's what the DWP pays for a minimum 35 hour week. The more hours they do, the less they're earning ph. You can only legally pay them extra if it's under £1000 a year or they can find a way to become legally self employed alongside it and you can pay them extra.

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lnks · 18/02/2025 03:11

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 03:09

You'd think wouldn't you, but that's what the DWP pays for a minimum 35 hour week. The more hours they do, the less they're earning ph. You can only legally pay them extra if it's under £1000 a year or they can find a way to become legally self employed alongside it and you can pay them extra.

I’m not sure what’s going on here but DWP absolutely is not paying her £2 or hour. That is illegal.

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 03:12

Really surprised that some don't seem to realize that Carers working for carers allowance get the grand sum of £81.90 per week, which is about £1.95 per hour if they do the minimum required which is 35 hours per week.

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HobnobsChoice · 18/02/2025 03:12

Is she recieving carer's allowance? So the DWP pay her rather than you paying her from direct payments. That's the only way it would make sense.

ViaRia01 · 18/02/2025 03:13

Presumably the £2 per hour is carers allowance or some other government benefit rather than a salary? So she is not employed to be your carer but she acts as your carer and is eligible to claim the relevant benefit??

lnks · 18/02/2025 03:13

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 03:12

Really surprised that some don't seem to realize that Carers working for carers allowance get the grand sum of £81.90 per week, which is about £1.95 per hour if they do the minimum required which is 35 hours per week.

So you mean a family member is a cater for you. Not that someone is employed to do it?

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 03:13

lnks · 18/02/2025 03:11

I’m not sure what’s going on here but DWP absolutely is not paying her £2 or hour. That is illegal.

There are an awful lot of us who think it should be!

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ViaRia01 · 18/02/2025 03:14

^^ not that any of it matters tbh,, I was just hoping to / attempting to clear up any confusion

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 03:14

lnks · 18/02/2025 03:13

So you mean a family member is a cater for you. Not that someone is employed to do it?

No, she is unrelated as are many.

www.gov.uk/carers-allowance

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lnks · 18/02/2025 03:16

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 03:14

No, she is unrelated as are many.

www.gov.uk/carers-allowance

But she’s not employed by you. She is an unpaid carer who receives carers allowance?

HobnobsChoice · 18/02/2025 03:17

She's not "working for it" as such. OP has care needs which means she needs a carer. In order to qualify for Carers Allowance then the carer who is presumably a friend must be providing 35 hours of care per week. It's a benefit not wages. It's a horrendously low rate and carers who have paid work can find themselves penalised if just one week of earnings goes over £51 net as the whole benefit is removed and some carers have even been taken to court.

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 03:17

ViaRia01 · 18/02/2025 03:13

Presumably the £2 per hour is carers allowance or some other government benefit rather than a salary? So she is not employed to be your carer but she acts as your carer and is eligible to claim the relevant benefit??

They are sent from the job center and have to have a basic contract, and the person they care for has to have insurance for them to work in their home.

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lnks · 18/02/2025 03:17

Anyway, it’s an appalling figure. I really believe carers allowance should be paid at the same rate as minimum wage or higher to be honest.

ColourBlueColourPurple · 18/02/2025 03:17

slowlyloosingthewill · 18/02/2025 03:14

No, she is unrelated as are many.

www.gov.uk/carers-allowance

That's not how carers allowance is meant to be used. You're 'employing' someone but paying them under £2p/h. You should be making up any shortfall in her wage up to NMW. So you're completely taking advantage of someone who goes by your description of "ND young people with MH issues"?

lnks · 18/02/2025 03:19

She’s sent from the job centre?
I’m not sure what’s going on or what is occurring here

What are the things you need help with, OP?

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