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Labour have ruined the job market

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Needajobforspouse · 14/02/2025 20:55

My spouse was made redundant in November, has done some bid work since then (e.g zero contract parcel delivery) but not enough to make up his old salary. He has job alerts and this week there was ZERO jobs advertised that meet his qualifications.

Nobody is hiring.

I work for an SME, and I am also at risk and in bad health. Not enough for PIP etc but enough to make me unreliable (recently diagnosed as immunocompromised).

Not even the local supermarket is hiring, and they won’t touch my DH anyway as he is massively over qualified (I know a supermarket manager and they don’t take on over qualified people as they are “hard to manage” and don’t stay long term.).

yesterday our car broke and we used the last of our savings for a new one, my roof is leaking. My bay window is leaking and I just feel like giving up.

just dreading this year of shitty government policies that pick on the middle income earners and penalise us, is this life? Because if so I hate it.

also where are all the jobs?! Literally zero here in northern England.

OP posts:
EasternStandard · 16/02/2025 10:32

SoapySponge · 16/02/2025 10:20

No. The Tories screwed the jobs market. Labour's NI increases are a useful excuse for firms that want to make lay-offs and/or freeze recruiting.

The private sector has been shrinking since the GE.

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 10:40

EasternStandard · 16/02/2025 10:32

The private sector has been shrinking since the GE.

Because of a variety of reasons, many the fault of the last government.

OneLemonGuide · 16/02/2025 10:43

SoapySponge · 16/02/2025 10:20

No. The Tories screwed the jobs market. Labour's NI increases are a useful excuse for firms that want to make lay-offs and/or freeze recruiting.

Hyper-partisan bullshit. Just because Brexit may have been bad for jobs, doesn’t mean Labour’s NI policy isn’t too!

And if you insist of such an insufferable anti-business attitude (and its small / medium businesses that will be hurt the most) you’re handing the next election to Reform on a silver platter! I really don’t want that…but that’s what will
happen!

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 10:50

Good lord, no wonder people in this country vote the way they do when they aren’t capable of seeing mutiple issues at once. The Tories over taxing and BREXIT was bad. We all know it and economists told us. Guess what? Labour taxing jobs is also bad. Labour’s green taxes also bad. They’ve made things really difficult for business and economists tell us this too.

It is possible for both to be true and causes. The only people who deny the later are staunch Labour voter and sorry, it makes you look ignorant. You could only lack this much awareness in certain circumstances, you’re retired, on welfare or work in the public sector. Not forgetting of course, ‘My DH says…’ Don’t worry, these issues will soon hit welfare and the public sector too because guess what? The private sector bankrolls it.

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 10:54

Well these things get absorbed within the labour market and they flex and adjust over time, far more able to do so than something like Brexit ridiculousness.

EasternStandard · 16/02/2025 10:58

Because of a variety of reasons, many the fault of the last government.

No Labour's policies really are having an impact, there's enough covering this

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 11:00

EasternStandard · 16/02/2025 10:58

Because of a variety of reasons, many the fault of the last government.

No Labour's policies really are having an impact, there's enough covering this

Yep and Tory policies alongside the shit aftermath of 14 years of Tory rule on services which the little people care about- a lot.

EasternStandard · 16/02/2025 11:02

@Smok3Scr33n services will be impacted if the private sector declines

Octopies · 16/02/2025 11:07

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 10:16

And Brexit did nothing to damage small businesses! Now that was laughable, all the lies, mismanaged that got exactly the opposite of the lies that were told.

It's possible for both things to be true! Personally, I think we should hold those charged with managing the country to a higher standard than 'that pile of shit stank in a different way than the previous one, so it must be an improvement'.

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 11:07

EasternStandard · 16/02/2025 11:02

@Smok3Scr33n services will be impacted if the private sector declines

A lot be less chance of them being decimated as they were under the Tories with a government making them a priority.

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 11:09

Octopies · 16/02/2025 11:07

It's possible for both things to be true! Personally, I think we should hold those charged with managing the country to a higher standard than 'that pile of shit stank in a different way than the previous one, so it must be an improvement'.

But it’s funny that we all had to just hold our breath and get on with it post Brexit even with corruption and bare faced lies in the mix …there is a distinct whiff of double standards by Tory HQ.

EasternStandard · 16/02/2025 11:10

@Smok3Scr33n Labour will need the funds. And going for the private sector isn't going to help them achieve that

We'll see what the welfare situation is soon but it looks like they've been pitch rolling cuts

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 11:16

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 11:09

But it’s funny that we all had to just hold our breath and get on with it post Brexit even with corruption and bare faced lies in the mix …there is a distinct whiff of double standards by Tory HQ.

It’s not. Brexit was bad. Very bad. However there was time to adapt. Still bad. Business have had a few months to rip up all their projections and look at NMW/NLW increases, 10% NI, the threshold for NI is lowering not just the % and green policies. It has resulted in immediate hiring freezes and redundancies in very large companies. Small companies are sinking. To deny this is just pure ignorance at this stage or a real, serious lack of understanding.

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 11:18

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 11:16

It’s not. Brexit was bad. Very bad. However there was time to adapt. Still bad. Business have had a few months to rip up all their projections and look at NMW/NLW increases, 10% NI, the threshold for NI is lowering not just the % and green policies. It has resulted in immediate hiring freezes and redundancies in very large companies. Small companies are sinking. To deny this is just pure ignorance at this stage or a real, serious lack of understanding.

They were shrinking due to Brexit. Whether you like it or not the Tories have had a big impact on current employment figures.

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 11:21

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 11:18

They were shrinking due to Brexit. Whether you like it or not the Tories have had a big impact on current employment figures.

Read the posts again. It’s possible for it to be both. By not acknowledging the issue you’re just showing you don’t understand what you’re talking about to be fair.

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 11:22

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 11:21

Read the posts again. It’s possible for it to be both. By not acknowledging the issue you’re just showing you don’t understand what you’re talking about to be fair.

Ah the old you’re ignorant stance. I could say the same to you. Both sides need to have the same time frame before judgement. 6 months compared to 14 years isn’t really that.

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 11:26

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 11:22

Ah the old you’re ignorant stance. I could say the same to you. Both sides need to have the same time frame before judgement. 6 months compared to 14 years isn’t really that.

It really is ignorance at this point. Anyone in the private sector, including economists can tell you the immediate impact it has had on jobs - the RR budget that is. There is no helping people who can’t see it. They will soon be squealing in here next month when welfare is cut. A told you so moment. “But waaaaaah, Bweeexit and Twwwories.” Absolutely clueless.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 16/02/2025 11:29

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 10:40

Because of a variety of reasons, many the fault of the last government.

The big boy did it then ran away. Zzzzzzz

No, Rachel Reeves did it with her ludicrous additional 10% tax on jobs. Labourbots can deny until they are blue in the face, we all know the reality.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 16/02/2025 11:32

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 11:26

It really is ignorance at this point. Anyone in the private sector, including economists can tell you the immediate impact it has had on jobs - the RR budget that is. There is no helping people who can’t see it. They will soon be squealing in here next month when welfare is cut. A told you so moment. “But waaaaaah, Bweeexit and Twwwories.” Absolutely clueless.

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Precisely. It is ignorance and obfuscation on steroids.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 16/02/2025 11:34

What an appropriate username @Smok3Scr33n has.

Goldenbear · 16/02/2025 11:51

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 11:26

It really is ignorance at this point. Anyone in the private sector, including economists can tell you the immediate impact it has had on jobs - the RR budget that is. There is no helping people who can’t see it. They will soon be squealing in here next month when welfare is cut. A told you so moment. “But waaaaaah, Bweeexit and Twwwories.” Absolutely clueless.

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What anyone or everyone in the private sector- this simply isn't true and you won't find that everyone in the private sector that has a say in hiring and firing thinks that! Some have just found the excuse they need for not hiring.

You are somehow suggesting Brexit was better as more time to prepare, that's irrelevant to the overall outcome which has seen the UK considerably worse off compared to our developed country counterparts-

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/14/brexit-has-sliced-5percent-off-uk-economic-growth-goldman-sachs-says.html

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 12:06

Goldenbear · 16/02/2025 11:51

What anyone or everyone in the private sector- this simply isn't true and you won't find that everyone in the private sector that has a say in hiring and firing thinks that! Some have just found the excuse they need for not hiring.

You are somehow suggesting Brexit was better as more time to prepare, that's irrelevant to the overall outcome which has seen the UK considerably worse off compared to our developed country counterparts-

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/14/brexit-has-sliced-5percent-off-uk-economic-growth-goldman-sachs-says.html

So tell me which one of these categories do you fall into, public sector, pensioner, welfare claimant or ‘My DH says’ I’ll wait because I already know. Thus proving my point.

Goldenbear · 16/02/2025 12:40

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 12:06

So tell me which one of these categories do you fall into, public sector, pensioner, welfare claimant or ‘My DH says’ I’ll wait because I already know. Thus proving my point.

None of the above, DH and I both work in the private sector- oh dear, you're going to have to revisit your theory, go back to the drawing board Nige!

Octopies · 16/02/2025 12:42

Smok3Scr33n · 16/02/2025 11:09

But it’s funny that we all had to just hold our breath and get on with it post Brexit even with corruption and bare faced lies in the mix …there is a distinct whiff of double standards by Tory HQ.

I mean the amount of dithering around Brexit suggests those in Power didn't actually want to go through with it in the end! The fact there was even referedum in the first place sums up everything which is wrong with politics. Joe public, with no ecomonic knoweldge was asked to vote yay or nay and the media did a stellar job of whipping people into a frenzy. Anyone who questioned whether a decades old treaty should be reviewed in light of the fact times have changed significantly since it was originally drawn up, was automatically labelled a racist. I voted Remain, as the proposed exit strategy of 'let's see what happens' seemed shit, but if there was an option to renegotiate the terms of the agreement, I would have voted for that.

I don't really understand why some people have such an issue with calling out a shit policy regardless of which Government implemented it.

Andwhoisasking · 16/02/2025 12:46

Goldenbear · 16/02/2025 12:40

None of the above, DH and I both work in the private sector- oh dear, you're going to have to revisit your theory, go back to the drawing board Nige!

Of course you are. Almost as cliche as Nige. Not a reform voter. Maybe return to chat where you can stay in the echo chamber?

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