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To think these drawings are pretty great for their ages. What do you think the ages of the kids are?

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Sweetsweetland · 13/02/2025 19:34

Lighthearted thread. 🙂

Went to watch Dogman movie with my 2 kids. I was asleep through most of it to be honest but the kids found it funny. When they came back home they started doing some drawings based on the film. I think they are pretty great for their ages but then again I am hopeless when it comes to any form of art !

What age do you think my DC are based on these?

To think these drawings are pretty great for their ages. What do you think the ages of the kids are?
OP posts:
IridiumSky · 14/02/2025 02:25

Better than my artistic skills so about 65?

Audiprettier · 14/02/2025 02:48

I thought the attention to detail on the right hand picture is amazing for someone this age! Especially the lettering. Both are so good, & I love the fact the youngest took inspiration from his brother. Impressive! 👏👏

Lavenderfarmcottage · 14/02/2025 02:50

You should feel proud that you have them doing a sit down activity together and writing letters even if cartoon format.

very good

ChessorBuckaroo · 14/02/2025 03:18

TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 13/02/2025 19:41

Is that it ?

Well my Tarquin and Esmerelda managed to paint an exact replica of the Mona Lisa AND swim round their daddys nutsack at the same time. 😏

😂

DreamTheMoors · 14/02/2025 03:31

40 & 45?
Your kids are gonna grow up one day and show their kids this post and tell tell them, “See? This is why we don’t post family things on the internet. Grandma didn’t know any better.”

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/02/2025 03:34

moanaom · 13/02/2025 22:06

It's weird how art by kids is so highly valued and encouraged, but most working artists are barely scraping by and are offered a lot of work 'for exposure'. Where do we lose it?

We run out of time to play.

It's not 'serious' or 'necessary' (but believe me a world without it would be horrific!) vs other things like going to the office or doing your accounts or hoovering the floor or making the dinner...

It costs money to buy materials, it is hard to justify that sometimes, particularly if it is simply to play with them and see if you like them, which is the only way to find out if you're any good or if you enjoy them.

Im not overly big on formal education, but school is one place where kids will get access to materials that may not be available at home (absolutely KICKING myself for not making use of the school kiln when I had the chance!) and encouragement to be expressive and try things out. Try to get them to make the most of it!

We get bogged down by worrying about purpose 'what is this for, who is this for, why am I doing this'. Do it because its nice, it gives your brain time to relax, because you like the way the pen feels or how the paint blooms on the page!

Its a ton of boringly adult, miserable reasons, and the fact that people now think they can just AI an image rather than pay someone to create one, or want to put up 'original prints' from a run of 100'000 available on Wayfair, and think its just fine that places like Wish and Temu and even big brand stores happily steal actual artists work because it's only images, it's not like stealing a purse or a car... that stops parents pushing kids to do art as a serious thing.

And whilst I am on a rant..

For fucks sake don't squash kids creativity by getting on at them about tracing or copying.

Kids want to see results, without rapid success that pleases the eye, they give up.

Kids haven't the hand/eye co-ordination, the fine motor skills, the understanding of depth, perspective, colour value blah blah etc etc... to instantly be good at taking whats in their mind and putting it on a page.

Letting them trace and copy lets them get those pleasing results fast, which encourages them to do more! As long as they understand the difference between copying for practice vs original work, that's all they need know (and broach that in a kid appropriate way!).

There is a lot of skill in accurately copying other peoples work - Disney and Warner Bros cartoons are built on it, people working there spent (And still spend, though typically digitally now) weeks and weeks learning how to all produce Mickey and Minnie and Bugs and Wile E. Coyote et al, the same as the person next to them, so that everyone could work on the same cartoon.

If you want, you can find the character stylesheets online, and show them to kids interested in cartoon characters and how they're designed and drawn.

I started by copying, tracing, learning how to draw Marvin the Martian and Thelwell Ponies and the various line drawings in pony books, the art that was around me day to day.

If the old masters did it (and boy did they!) then your 6 year old can do it too - even when I do a commissioned pet portrait, I may well trace some elements - if I hand draw the whole image to start with (I do if theres not a single quality ref. image to work from, but it adds significant time which the client ends up paying for!), I still then transfer it to the surface using tracing, because I draw well on paper, but drawing on Pastelmat or Mi Tientes velvet with a fine pencil isn't very nice to do (for me, personal choice!) and errors are hard to fix!

ThisFluentBiscuit · 14/02/2025 03:42

Haven't looked to see if there is any reveal by the OP. I'm going to say 8 for the left and 10 for the right.

ThisFluentBiscuit · 14/02/2025 03:44

Sweetsweetland · 13/02/2025 20:56

Thank you all for such lovely messages ! I read some of them to my children before bed and they were very happy . The drawing on the left was done by my youngest son and he is 5. It did involve a bit of copying from his brother whose drawing is on the right and he just turned 8 🙂 I swear you dont ever want to see mine haha

Oh, amazing!

Definitely a talent to be nurtured!

mathanxiety · 14/02/2025 04:02

Sweetsweetland · 13/02/2025 20:56

Thank you all for such lovely messages ! I read some of them to my children before bed and they were very happy . The drawing on the left was done by my youngest son and he is 5. It did involve a bit of copying from his brother whose drawing is on the right and he just turned 8 🙂 I swear you dont ever want to see mine haha

They're really good, @Sweetsweetland

Make sure they keep at it. It's fantastic that they came home and started drawing.

Dillythedallyduck · 14/02/2025 06:35

These are really good for 5 and 8!!
They look like they worked really hard on them. I'd be buying a couple of frames for them Smile

RadStag · 14/02/2025 07:04

DreamTheMoors · 14/02/2025 03:31

40 & 45?
Your kids are gonna grow up one day and show their kids this post and tell tell them, “See? This is why we don’t post family things on the internet. Grandma didn’t know any better.”

🙄🙄

It's not like she's posted pictures of them naked... With the caption "Charles Henry Jacobson, 5 and Sophie Marie Jacobson, 8 of 15, Meryl Drive, Jonestown, that attend Huffington Primary School, will be at the park at 3:30pm.

It's a random drawing with no way to identify the kids not embarrassing. Just a proud Mam.

RadStag · 14/02/2025 07:08

Audiprettier · 14/02/2025 02:25

Why is that weird?
are you a guy?

No. Just an observation.

The colouring in the top cat is very scribbled. But the line/pen control of the cat on the bottom right is more precise.

ArabellaScott · 14/02/2025 08:58

WiddlinDiddlin · 13/02/2025 21:30

On a serious note..

Get them art materials, good ones (not professional grade, but decent student grade where possible, not the fuck-awful barely pigmented pencils, pens that are dry before you open them, paper that won't take a mark or alternatively feathers out the ink the second pen touches paper. Nothing kills creativity faster than shit materials and then being told 'a bad workman blames his tools'. Children are already struggling with a lot of disadvantages due to their age/developmental stage, don't make crummy tools/materials another one)...

DO NOT caution them to be 'careful' with them or 'save them for best' etc - let them be free with it, encourage them to make marks, experiment with colour and shape.

Be enthusiastic about creating stuff in general, if they want to fashion the Taj Mahal out of noodles or build a life size flamingo out of discarded socks... (within reason...) go ahead.

This isn't a fool proof guide to producing genius artists - but feeling free to experiment and try things out boosts confidence. Evaluating your work and trying again at something builds skill and also resilience. Soldiering on through a 'messy' stage (every art piece has a messy stage, where it looks like an untrained monkey did it!) is a skill everyone will benefit from.

You might end up with fantastic artists, but these skills are transferable to all sorts of aspects of life, and learning.

I am an artist, but it has taken me a really long time to relax, let go and be free with materials and dare to mess up, waste stuff and make a mess. As a result, its only in my late 30s and early 40s that I really got somewhere, became professional and started actually earning money from it. I can also think of a lot of other areas in my life where the above applies!

100%

They just need the time and freedom and means to practise. And it also helps not to have the focus on them and their potential/ability/genius.

When young, their enjoyment is there naturally and can be damaged by too much focus on ability/outcomes. Same as rewards can kill enthusiasm for doing something for its own sake.

'I love to watch you so absorbed in a drawing' is better than 'that picture is excellent'.

Galleries are good, art books are good, best of all keep them away from screens as much as possible.

SallyWD · 14/02/2025 09:24

They're very good indeed. My son is 12 and couldn't do the drawing by your 5 year old. He's perfectly intelligent but useless at art.

oakleaffy · 14/02/2025 11:23

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/02/2025 03:34

We run out of time to play.

It's not 'serious' or 'necessary' (but believe me a world without it would be horrific!) vs other things like going to the office or doing your accounts or hoovering the floor or making the dinner...

It costs money to buy materials, it is hard to justify that sometimes, particularly if it is simply to play with them and see if you like them, which is the only way to find out if you're any good or if you enjoy them.

Im not overly big on formal education, but school is one place where kids will get access to materials that may not be available at home (absolutely KICKING myself for not making use of the school kiln when I had the chance!) and encouragement to be expressive and try things out. Try to get them to make the most of it!

We get bogged down by worrying about purpose 'what is this for, who is this for, why am I doing this'. Do it because its nice, it gives your brain time to relax, because you like the way the pen feels or how the paint blooms on the page!

Its a ton of boringly adult, miserable reasons, and the fact that people now think they can just AI an image rather than pay someone to create one, or want to put up 'original prints' from a run of 100'000 available on Wayfair, and think its just fine that places like Wish and Temu and even big brand stores happily steal actual artists work because it's only images, it's not like stealing a purse or a car... that stops parents pushing kids to do art as a serious thing.

And whilst I am on a rant..

For fucks sake don't squash kids creativity by getting on at them about tracing or copying.

Kids want to see results, without rapid success that pleases the eye, they give up.

Kids haven't the hand/eye co-ordination, the fine motor skills, the understanding of depth, perspective, colour value blah blah etc etc... to instantly be good at taking whats in their mind and putting it on a page.

Letting them trace and copy lets them get those pleasing results fast, which encourages them to do more! As long as they understand the difference between copying for practice vs original work, that's all they need know (and broach that in a kid appropriate way!).

There is a lot of skill in accurately copying other peoples work - Disney and Warner Bros cartoons are built on it, people working there spent (And still spend, though typically digitally now) weeks and weeks learning how to all produce Mickey and Minnie and Bugs and Wile E. Coyote et al, the same as the person next to them, so that everyone could work on the same cartoon.

If you want, you can find the character stylesheets online, and show them to kids interested in cartoon characters and how they're designed and drawn.

I started by copying, tracing, learning how to draw Marvin the Martian and Thelwell Ponies and the various line drawings in pony books, the art that was around me day to day.

If the old masters did it (and boy did they!) then your 6 year old can do it too - even when I do a commissioned pet portrait, I may well trace some elements - if I hand draw the whole image to start with (I do if theres not a single quality ref. image to work from, but it adds significant time which the client ends up paying for!), I still then transfer it to the surface using tracing, because I draw well on paper, but drawing on Pastelmat or Mi Tientes velvet with a fine pencil isn't very nice to do (for me, personal choice!) and errors are hard to fix!

One of my very favourite pony book illustrators was Anne Bullen.
Her loose free style, and pretty 'blood' ponies were wonderful.
Almost 80 years ago though!

To think these drawings are pretty great for their ages. What do you think the ages of the kids are?
WiddlinDiddlin · 14/02/2025 19:59

It was Anne Bullen I was thinking of!

Audiprettier · 15/02/2025 19:40

WiddlinDiddlin · 14/02/2025 03:34

We run out of time to play.

It's not 'serious' or 'necessary' (but believe me a world without it would be horrific!) vs other things like going to the office or doing your accounts or hoovering the floor or making the dinner...

It costs money to buy materials, it is hard to justify that sometimes, particularly if it is simply to play with them and see if you like them, which is the only way to find out if you're any good or if you enjoy them.

Im not overly big on formal education, but school is one place where kids will get access to materials that may not be available at home (absolutely KICKING myself for not making use of the school kiln when I had the chance!) and encouragement to be expressive and try things out. Try to get them to make the most of it!

We get bogged down by worrying about purpose 'what is this for, who is this for, why am I doing this'. Do it because its nice, it gives your brain time to relax, because you like the way the pen feels or how the paint blooms on the page!

Its a ton of boringly adult, miserable reasons, and the fact that people now think they can just AI an image rather than pay someone to create one, or want to put up 'original prints' from a run of 100'000 available on Wayfair, and think its just fine that places like Wish and Temu and even big brand stores happily steal actual artists work because it's only images, it's not like stealing a purse or a car... that stops parents pushing kids to do art as a serious thing.

And whilst I am on a rant..

For fucks sake don't squash kids creativity by getting on at them about tracing or copying.

Kids want to see results, without rapid success that pleases the eye, they give up.

Kids haven't the hand/eye co-ordination, the fine motor skills, the understanding of depth, perspective, colour value blah blah etc etc... to instantly be good at taking whats in their mind and putting it on a page.

Letting them trace and copy lets them get those pleasing results fast, which encourages them to do more! As long as they understand the difference between copying for practice vs original work, that's all they need know (and broach that in a kid appropriate way!).

There is a lot of skill in accurately copying other peoples work - Disney and Warner Bros cartoons are built on it, people working there spent (And still spend, though typically digitally now) weeks and weeks learning how to all produce Mickey and Minnie and Bugs and Wile E. Coyote et al, the same as the person next to them, so that everyone could work on the same cartoon.

If you want, you can find the character stylesheets online, and show them to kids interested in cartoon characters and how they're designed and drawn.

I started by copying, tracing, learning how to draw Marvin the Martian and Thelwell Ponies and the various line drawings in pony books, the art that was around me day to day.

If the old masters did it (and boy did they!) then your 6 year old can do it too - even when I do a commissioned pet portrait, I may well trace some elements - if I hand draw the whole image to start with (I do if theres not a single quality ref. image to work from, but it adds significant time which the client ends up paying for!), I still then transfer it to the surface using tracing, because I draw well on paper, but drawing on Pastelmat or Mi Tientes velvet with a fine pencil isn't very nice to do (for me, personal choice!) and errors are hard to fix!

Blimey... have a day off!! 🤷‍♀️

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