DS had disruptive child sat behind him

[CocoBean22]

There is a child in DS class year 3 who has spent the majority of his time of primary in the sensory hub but this term seems to be spending more time in the classroom with the other children and his teaching assistant sat next to him.

DS has been coming home saying that child X is sat behind him in class, and he sits and watches Paw patrol on a laptop with no ear phones and the volume on whilst my DS and the rest of the class try and concentrate and learn their maths.

He shouts out swear words and is very disruptive.

DS said he was told off by the teacher today for 'turning around' to see what child x was watching as the volume was quite loud and it was distracting him.

Shall I let it go?
Should I speak with the teacher?
And if so what would you say?

Hardly? Sorry, am confused.

This is what happens with the long time push for children with SEN to be in mainstream education when it's clearly not beneficial for them, staff and peers. IMO it's not being inclusive, quite the opposite, it's highlighting the differences amd unable to cope. Xx

Speak ti the teacher. This is NOT ok.

I'd say talk to the teacher. First, you probably aren't getting the full picture and second, the teacher might not understand the effect it's having on the rest of the class. You don't need to be confrontational - just asking for context.

Speak to the teacher,

Even if just to ask your DS to be moved and someone else to have their turn next to the noise.

Teacher here, can confirm that putting a child in a room of other children who are doing maths while he play paw patrol out loud is absurd and dystopian. That's not inclusive education. Some disabilities do not mesh with a traditional classroom.

This. The needs of one individual absolutely do not outweigh the needs of 29 others and i think it's incredibly entitled to suggest that they do. Especially not when there's an obvious compromise in the provision of headphones!!!

My DS is in Y6 and his class is disrupted daily by the SEN child and his disruptive behaviour. Constant disruption, shouting, tantrums when he doesnt get his own way, throwing of furniture, kids are so desensitised to it now, it's awful! I've had so many discussions with the school over this because the SEN child usually lashes out at my DS but they just don't listen anymore, it's shit!!

The SEN child should be in a SEN school but because his parents want to keep him in a mainstream school (because it's by their house) the rest of the class suffer daily. It's not right or fair.

Oh yes, I'm sure that's the plan.

In before someone calls this poster ableist. Inclusive education has been a catastrophic failure.

Yanbu at all. It's bad enough that they think it's acceptable to have a child watching a cartoon loudly while the rest of the class is trying to concentrate and learn, but to then tell your DS off for being distracted by the massive distraction of their own making? No that's really unacceptable.

That's terrible for all involved, incredibly selfish on the parents part.

So many parents think their child is more important than the 29 others just because they've got SEN, it's out of control.

Speak to the teacher and explain what your DS has reported. Tbh I doubt the teacher thinks it's ideal, if they're having to shout over Paw Patrol. Maybe it's not happening as much as your DS claims and he's trying to deflect from his own lack of concentration?

Can we avoid assuming the parents are at fault and they have directed the school to do this?

Maybe they are waiting for a special school place. Maybe they don't have an EHCP. Maybe they want their child to be out of the classroom. Maybe the school are trying reintegration and it's not working that well.

I am not saying the child should be in the room watching a video but assuming it's a deliberate parental choice is unfair.

I teach in a primary school (5/6 year olds). In an ideal world the classroom would be a perfect learning environment for all the children but this just isn't achievable. I've had a number of ASD and ADHD children in my class and I'm trying to cater for all their needs as well as the mainstream children (30 in total ). Keeping them all quiet is pretty much impossible. We have some quiet moments when I'm teaching and the children are working but the majority of the day is interruptions and distractions. We have to make allowances for our SEN children and support them as best we can and so do the other children because there are no other places for them. This is a government issue and a huge lack of funding and facilities. Our school isn't big enough for children to be taken out to learn elsewhere. Yes, they are taken out for movement breaks and to regulate their emotions but unfortunately we are all clubbed together within 4 walls and have to make the best of it. Often not fair on every child and adult involved. Certainly raise it with the teacher if it becomes a regular occurrence as maybe other things can be put into place but know that she/he are probably doing the best they can.

Totally agree. In Reception class integration is possible for 80% of the time as it’s learning through play. But as these children progress through the school, integration occurs less and less as the gap between them and their peers widens. These children have a lonely existence, spirited away whilst everyone else learns. Sad but true. As others have said it’s cost cutting dressed up as “Inclusion”. Our children are being left down. It’s disgraceful the way the government throws all children into this melting pot and expects schools to cope.

Somehow SEN kids survived before iPads.

And they were very happy to say they had the pick of secondary schools because the child's SEN status! 🙄

Whatever the school are doing, it's clearly not working, the 1-2-1 isn't around as he should be even though the funding is for him to be his 1-2-1, the child shouts at the teacher when asked to do school work, he's been banned from afterschool club for being violent with the staff repeatedly, told other children 'you have to do as I say because I have autism and I know where the knives are!".
He left to walk to and from school alone and is constantly glued to his screen that he just wonders in to road without looking for cars, I see this daily.

So whilst I sympathise that having a SEN child can't be easy, it's also not easy dealing with the school and parents failing to realise that not every SEN child should be in a mainstream school.

Do not let it go.

Watching something on a tablet is only reasonable if the child is using headphones or it's on silent if the other children are meant to be listening to the teacher or doing their own work.

And the op's child and everyone else is disrupted because of one child? That's not the op's problem at all. I would be speaking to the teacher about this.

Speak to the teacher.

Don't approach it in terms of what the other child is doing, approach it from the impact it's having on your DC - you don't get a say in how the other child is managed, your concern is your own DC. So rather than "that child has a laptop and it's quite loud", take the approach of "DC is being distracted by noise in the classroom".

Exactly. Why does one disruptive child needs get to trump every other person?

This is the absolute fact here . Many children are not coping in mainstream - disruptive and disrupting everyone’s learning .

yes speak to the teacher . Your Ds’s voice should be heard too but this is going to happen more and more .