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AIBU or my ex? Child maintenance

323 replies

MoneyWoe · 11/02/2025 20:46

Me and my ex share our child equally, half the time each. He pays for some things, like our child’s weekly swimming sessions, I pay for others, like dinner money. So this part is equal but I would say I do most of the organising for things. Example, I will organise our child’s school trips like filling in the forms and he will give me half the money. This has worked but recently I have got fed up of having to message him asking for half of the money for things all the time, so I put in an application for child maintenance. I didn’t realise this at the time but he is on a very large salary and the money it says he owes is hundreds a month, way more than when he was just paying half of things. He is saying he is going to argue this with them as we share our child equally, and according to him, in these sorts of equal cases he doesn’t need to pay any maintenance. He said he will take it to court if he has to. He’s also said I might have to pay any money back if the child maintenance service agrees with him.

AIBU to expect him to pay the maintenance and is he correct in that he won’t need to pay any maintenance in our situation?

OP posts:
Mrsttcno1 · 12/02/2025 11:02

MoneyWoe · 12/02/2025 09:14

He’s said it’s equal care so he doesn’t owe anything but I’ve said it’s shared overnights to the child maintenance service.

He’s right OP because you do currently have shared care, equal time with the child and you’ve also both been contributing equally to the child’s other things as you’ve admitted yourself & he can evidence that through your texts asking for money & his bank transfers.

Starlightstarbright4 · 12/02/2025 11:04

MoneyWoe · 12/02/2025 08:22

But if he says it is shared care and the court agrees when I’ve said I disagree, won’t that mean I have to pay the money back?

He did suggest paying a smaller amount like £250 a month but why would I agree to that when the calculator says £450?

I don’t know why you say yes thank you . It must surely cover everything you pay for ?

you aren’t on a bad wage .. I think you sound bitter ..

I had to do it all for my Ds . Organise it take him. I could have used the £7 he paid through CMS .. there would have been other ways to do this . Like pay into a joint account for spending hobbies / trips / uniforms .

i think this is one of those posts you will just fight for as much as you can .

just a question if you got £450 a month what would you do with that money ?

Dontbealllikeuncool · 12/02/2025 11:04

CMS only considers the paying parent’s income, not the receiving parent’s income. However, since your child spends equal time with both, no payment is due.

Anonforthis58 · 12/02/2025 11:12

MoneyWoe · 12/02/2025 08:22

But if he says it is shared care and the court agrees when I’ve said I disagree, won’t that mean I have to pay the money back?

He did suggest paying a smaller amount like £250 a month but why would I agree to that when the calculator says £450?

If you put the details in as though he were claiming from you, it shows you owe him £250 per month ..surely these figures are deducted from each other then the higher earner pays the difference to the lower earner? Not exact amounts obviously but surely that’s the starting point?

Katbum · 12/02/2025 11:13

Thehobbit2013 · 11/02/2025 21:39

If they were still together would posters be saying that the bills should be split 50/50 despite a huge disparity in income? Surely if he is the bigger earner he should be paying more than 50% of the childcare costs anyway.

But they’re not together…you don’t get to benefit indefinitely from an ex partner’s income. Your currently partner obviously if you live together there is an expectation each benefits from the other.

Cam1981 · 12/02/2025 11:14

So now you won’t get any money and you’ve potentially destroyed a perfect co parenting arrangement.. well done !

Dervel · 12/02/2025 11:18

MoneyWoe · 12/02/2025 07:46

He has organised and paid for hobbies but not in the past 6 months. He does do school events without me too sometimes I would just say I do more.

Edited

When he has organised and paid for those things did he ask you to contribute your half?

Rewis · 12/02/2025 11:19

My main worry is that will he now stop paying half of everything? Will the extra maintenance cover those expenses?

HowardTJMoon · 12/02/2025 11:34

AnonymousBleep · 12/02/2025 10:52

Yeah I always think there must be a lot of men (who don't want to pay child maintenance) on MN when I see the comments on threads like this one.

Of course she should take what's owed to her and her CHILD. That's not 'being greedy.'

Would you also support the ex pursuing the OP for the £60 a week the CMS calculator says that she owes him?

ThejoyofNC · 12/02/2025 11:50

So if the calculator says he owes OP £99pw and she owes him £61pw, she is doing all this for £38pw. Sounds like less than he's paying now.

Wingingitnancy · 12/02/2025 11:52

Shared overnights or shared care..I don't get the difference..is that both saying 50/50? But if cms are taking direct from his wages aren't you getting the payment now?

If you are receiving payment now and court changes the cms you may have to pay it back. CMS stuff up payments all the time or calculate incorrectly...oddly enough they never have to pay up for their mistakes and it's the parents 😅

Poppins21 · 12/02/2025 12:06

But that £99 will now have to pay for all the extras that he currently just pays for like the swimming lessons. So OP might find she is actually worse off than her current amicable arrangement.

Sidge · 12/02/2025 12:12

MH0084 · 12/02/2025 10:11

I'm shocked by the amount of people here finding OP unreasonable because "she's lucky".
It only shows as society we take mental load for granted and it's ok for men not to be held accountable.
The bar is way too low.

But how she can claim she has “more of the mental load”. That’s just bollocks.

She has the child for a week, then the child goes to his dad for a week. So she fully parents in her week and he fully parents in his (and she thus has no mental load for 7 days I imagine…)

The odd email from school during his week that she may need to respond to is hardly a mental load. If it’s that onerous then just forward it to him and let him deal with it as it’s his week.

I’m all for absent parents (usually dads ) paying their way and contributing to their children’s upkeep but this really isn’t the case here.

thepariscrimefiles · 12/02/2025 12:25

HollyPollyMolly · 11/02/2025 21:00

You're being greedy and incredibly unreasonable.

It sounds like you've found out he is a high earner and want to benefit from it. If you were a higher earner, would you expect him to claim from you, despite 50/50 care?

I hope the breakdown in your co-parenting relationship and the impact on your child is worth the extra ££ in your account each month.

I think that where there is a very large disparity in earnings, and therefore lifestyles, child maintenance can be paid even with a 50/50 contact arrangement.

SheilaFentiman · 12/02/2025 12:26

thepariscrimefiles · 12/02/2025 12:25

I think that where there is a very large disparity in earnings, and therefore lifestyles, child maintenance can be paid even with a 50/50 contact arrangement.

Yes, but I think the level is more like £156k for the higher earner.

BeDeepKoala · 12/02/2025 12:36

RaspberryBeretxx · 12/02/2025 10:11

I think in this situation, given that neither of you are low earners, it'd make sense for you both to put money into an account for spending on DC. I know a separated couple who have 50/50 and do this and it works very well. I'd suggest you pay proportionally to your incomes so you put in 37% and he puts in 63% - if you decide to put £1000 a month in then he puts in £630 and you put in £370. All agreed spends for DC come from there and anything else gets saved for future.You keep CB as he earns too much to receive it anyway. That's what I'd do and then you get what you need - not having to chase him for money and having extra to spend on DC and him paying a bit more than you as he earns more.

Even if this "proportional paying' thing was reasonable (which it isn't), Its genuinely bizarre to me how many people on mumsnet dont seem to understand that tax exists.

Aweecupofteaandabiscuit · 12/02/2025 13:19

If the child was moving between palace and poverty every other week, I’d see your point. But it seems like that’s not the case here. Unless you think your child is going without anything at their father’s house that he should be providing? Food/clothes/toys/outings/bedroom/transport etc etc?
what has your child got to gain from this that they don’t already have access to?

whynotwhatknot · 12/02/2025 13:43

you realise now he wont be sendingd you half for everything else like swimming lothes extra trips

is it worth it

ToKittyornottoKitty · 12/02/2025 13:47

If you earn 65k do you even get to keep any of the child benefit money? You’ve said he often does the organising of the stuff he pays for and school stuff when DC is with him, you just ‘feel’ like you do more. Honestly I think you are the biggest CF I’ve seen on here in ages. Hopefully he takes you to court

MoneyWoe · 12/02/2025 14:01

His contribution for half of extra items like hobbies, clothes, school stuff is probably closer to £200, which is why I put the claim in as it comes out at over £400. So I could get the extra money and put it into a pot for our child, for holidays or just general savings.

OP posts:
Minnie798 · 12/02/2025 14:04

But you have a proper 50/50 arrangement. So his 99 per week in the calculator, minus your 61 is around 40 per week. So less than £200. Plus you’re getting the child benefit.

cruisetipz · 12/02/2025 14:05

MoneyWoe · 12/02/2025 14:01

His contribution for half of extra items like hobbies, clothes, school stuff is probably closer to £200, which is why I put the claim in as it comes out at over £400. So I could get the extra money and put it into a pot for our child, for holidays or just general savings.

Or your hair and nails

MrsSunshine2b · 12/02/2025 14:07

MoneyWoe · 12/02/2025 14:01

His contribution for half of extra items like hobbies, clothes, school stuff is probably closer to £200, which is why I put the claim in as it comes out at over £400. So I could get the extra money and put it into a pot for our child, for holidays or just general savings.

So he pays half of what it currently costs to raise your child (in addition to the equal amounts you both pay in time) and yet you want another £200 which you don't need, so your ex can pay for your holidays. Do you have no self-respect? You clearly have no respect for him. Greedy af, and all you'll get from it is ruining your coparenting relationship.

cheddercherry · 12/02/2025 14:12

MoneyWoe · 12/02/2025 14:01

His contribution for half of extra items like hobbies, clothes, school stuff is probably closer to £200, which is why I put the claim in as it comes out at over £400. So I could get the extra money and put it into a pot for our child, for holidays or just general savings.

So basically he pays half, and looks after the child half the time including extra curricular activities and you want to throw away co-parenting amicably because occasionally you cant be bothered to get him to sign a form and so you can get a few extra £100 to go on holiday?

I think the court will have a field day with you tbh.

LondonPapa · 12/02/2025 14:38

MoneyWoe · 12/02/2025 14:01

His contribution for half of extra items like hobbies, clothes, school stuff is probably closer to £200, which is why I put the claim in as it comes out at over £400. So I could get the extra money and put it into a pot for our child, for holidays or just general savings.

You really are, probably, the most ridiculous woman scoring an absolute scorcher of an own goal. The calculator doesn’t work properly for genuine 50/50 arrangements. CMS will come back and say he owes nothing. If they, for some idiotic reason, side with you, the courts will overrule it.

Congratulations. Such a marvellous job you’ve done.

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