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Is this speech delay in a 24 months ?

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Firstimemum24 · 08/02/2025 08:50

My 24 DD has lots of words , uses 2 / 3 word sentences to express her needs , can answer simple where’s , what’s question by either pointing or using the correct word , who’s simple question but can’t make a choice between two options . If I ask her open ended questions like : What do you want or which one ? She answers yes . She can’t understand questions like “ what did you do today etc
she can understand instructions like : get dolly and bring it to mummy , put food on the plate , take your socks off etc . She uses a bit of jargon as well .
she also has some learned phrases . If something scares her she says “ don’t worry, it is all good “ that she learned from us or if she throws a toy she looks at me and says “ sorry “ . I know scripting and echolalia are a red flag that needs looking into . I have expressed my concerned to the HV who put in a referral to the speech therapist and paediatrician that was denied on the basis that there is nothing atypical in her language development.
am I worrying too much ?

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Firstimemum24 · 08/02/2025 18:02

SLTalright · 08/02/2025 17:54

Hi OP, I work in a child development service and what you are describing seems to me to be exactly what we would expect a 24 month old to do. Has somebody qualified told you that they should be able to respond coherently to choices at this point? We allow an huge range of timeframes for these things to develop, a few small things in isolation are never a worry and completely normal. Even if they did have the language ability, most 2 yo would want both choices and just grab at both anyway and choices would change.

It’s normal to copy sentences that are heard often when learning by to speak. What you’ve described doesn’t match our description of echolalia where I am based but maybe you didn’t use all the examples… for echolalia we would be looking for quite long sentences of scripted speech with the exact same intonation, usually extracts from books or television shows, and generally we would be thinking it looks like echolalia when it surpasses the ability of the child’s language development and doesn’t match up to what they are able to do outside of the echolalia.

if it’s been reviewed and not accepted, that is because there are no problems that need exploring right now

Hi and thank you so much for your answer and to answer your question :”no” it was another mum and it got me a bit worried . As for the echolalia , she never picks up lines from books or tv , just what we say but in isolation like “ don’t worry mamma or the word “ almost “ she heard from my husband when watching football about scoring and every time there is football on tv she says * almost “

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Laoise542 · 09/02/2025 09:30

Honestly OP, this is the next in a long list of multiple posts and threads you've posted where again you're determined there is something developmentally wrong with your child when all you've done is list behaviours and skills that are normal in a child of her age.

Its been explained before that young children can't understand open ended questions. It's normal to be anxious about children but the level of anxiety and obsession you have of being determined something is "wrong" with your child is unhealthy and I think will start to impact your relationship with your child. Instead of just enjoying a normal developing child, you're nit picking and micro focusing on problems that aren't there.

When are you going to stop this? Have you got help and support for your anxiety because I feel you'll never let this go and your poor child will just be subjected to every single little behaviour being scrutinised. Multiple professionals now and posters have told you from what you write your child is developing normally, why are you so obsessed with their having to be something wrong?

Firstimemum24 · 09/02/2025 10:09

Laoise542 · 09/02/2025 09:30

Honestly OP, this is the next in a long list of multiple posts and threads you've posted where again you're determined there is something developmentally wrong with your child when all you've done is list behaviours and skills that are normal in a child of her age.

Its been explained before that young children can't understand open ended questions. It's normal to be anxious about children but the level of anxiety and obsession you have of being determined something is "wrong" with your child is unhealthy and I think will start to impact your relationship with your child. Instead of just enjoying a normal developing child, you're nit picking and micro focusing on problems that aren't there.

When are you going to stop this? Have you got help and support for your anxiety because I feel you'll never let this go and your poor child will just be subjected to every single little behaviour being scrutinised. Multiple professionals now and posters have told you from what you write your child is developing normally, why are you so obsessed with their having to be something wrong?

That was not my intention to come as obsessive. I was merely trying to understand how GLP work as my DD has still some
unintelligible long conversations and I know it is one of the things you have to be aware of . Like when she is pretending to be on the phone

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Itisbetter · 09/02/2025 10:27

Why do you “have to be aware of” a child pretending to have long conversations on a phone? (Weirdly the “pretend play” that nd tend not to engage in, but there you go.)

What are you thinking actually happens if your child does experience developmental delay?

TuesdayRubies · 09/02/2025 10:32

OP you're just describing normal child development.

The only thing you really SHOULD be worrying about and trying to resolve is your own anxiety.

Firstimemum24 · 09/02/2025 10:57

TuesdayRubies · 09/02/2025 10:32

OP you're just describing normal child development.

The only thing you really SHOULD be worrying about and trying to resolve is your own anxiety.

So a normal language development includes a bit of both learned phrases and spontaneous ones ?

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Lyn348 · 09/02/2025 10:59

Just enjoy your child OP, most people wouldn't even know what GLP is and scrutinising everything your child says isn't helpful to anyone. She's only 2 years old, read to her, sing nursery rhymes with her and narrate your day with her. Stop worrying about the teeny tiny details. It's normal for a two year old to use echolalia.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/tiny-happy-people/articles/z9p4jfr

Echolalia in children: Everything you need to know

Claire Smith from Speech and Language UK lets us know all about echolalia, where children repeat things they hear, and when your child might need extra support.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/tiny-happy-people/articles/z9p4jfr

GloriousBlue · 09/02/2025 11:08

Sounds entirely normal

Actually, ahead of my DS at 2

He's now 5, and bright as a button, and doing great at school

Enjoy your child. I know that's easier said than done, but your thought process and anxiety seem to be taking away from your parenting experience.

2025ohdear · 09/02/2025 11:11

No speech delay. My DD had a speech delay and you're nowhere near it. My DDs resolved itself eventually and she's now at university and very chatty.

Try not to worry. I get the anxiety though. Two to three words at age two is tremendous and the real indicator all is fine.

TuesdayRubies · 09/02/2025 11:18

'So a normal language development includes a bit of both learned phrases and spontaneous ones ?'

Of course!!

TuesdayRubies · 09/02/2025 11:19

That's why nursery rhymes etc are so useful.

Firstimemum24 · 09/02/2025 11:22

Thanks for your kids words .. it is very worrying because as a first time mum I don’t know what normal . She can answer yes or no questions but she is still a bit iffy on that . She replies okay when I ask her something and no for when she doesn’t want it but rarely you hear her says yes

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TuesdayRubies · 09/02/2025 11:26

Again all normal. Please either stop worrying or if you can't try to get some help for your anxiety OP Flowers

IVFmumoftwo · 09/02/2025 11:29

This really annoys me. Parents saying their child has a speech delay and then lists all the things they can actually say where my son who is three in a couple of days only says a couple of words and sometimes doesn't say a word all day. Just noises. Your child sounds fine, OP.

Sorry rant over. 😬

Itisbetter · 09/02/2025 11:30

How many people need to tell you this is fine?

I suspect you have hyper focused on language development because it allows you to emote and obsess and is fed by well meaning reassurances. If you really want to help your child then it would be good to ask for support to understand your own behaviour. Collection all the threads you have started on this or other worries, make a note of all the conversations you have had with friends and healthcare professionals and take them with you to a Dr and ask them to help you understand what is happening. They may be able to put your mind at rest or possibly see that there might be more behind the behaviour.

IVFmumoftwo · 09/02/2025 11:35

Have you posted about this before?

GloriousBlue · 09/02/2025 11:49

@Firstimemum24

All mums are a first time mum when they have their first.
Not all mums obsess over non existent problems

Listen to what everyone is saying, and consider getting help for your anxiety. It will damage your child.

Glamiss · 09/02/2025 11:53

@IVFmumoftwo I hear you. I can't find the right words to say, everything just sounds like a platitude. I hope your son has a brilliant birthday xx

IVFmumoftwo · 09/02/2025 12:10

Glamiss · 09/02/2025 11:53

@IVFmumoftwo I hear you. I can't find the right words to say, everything just sounds like a platitude. I hope your son has a brilliant birthday xx

@Glamiss Thank you. I am sure he will especially if there is cake involved. 🍰

wickedx · 09/02/2025 12:36

Think your worrying too much when my son just turned 2 he had no speech couldn't understand him atall but now he's 2yrs n 7th months he's fully communicating with us he sings multiple songs can count to 30 with help just give her time and time really does make the difference they change so fast! Xx

Everyone's child is different and develop at there own speed

Laoise542 · 09/02/2025 13:22

Firstimemum24 · 09/02/2025 10:09

That was not my intention to come as obsessive. I was merely trying to understand how GLP work as my DD has still some
unintelligible long conversations and I know it is one of the things you have to be aware of . Like when she is pretending to be on the phone

Your daughter is TWO. Your expectations are insanely high for a two year old. All mums are first time mums at some point, but none I know of focus on GLP (i had to Google what that was), worrying about spontaneous language, learned phrases etc. All two year olds have unintelligible conversations. As I said she's two, she isn't an Oxbridge student. Over analysing everything to the degree you do is just not normal.

It seems very worrying that instead of engaging with your child in play, you seem to pick apart every behaviour such as her playing on a phone as a sign that there's something wrong with your child. Post after post and thread after thread about non existent problems, constantly seeking reassurance is damaging to yourself and your child. I'd understand if there were genuine concerns but there's none of that with your child and isn't in any of the other threads you've posted.

I really hope you get some help for your anxiety for both you and your child's sake.

FacingTheWall · 09/02/2025 14:14

Specialist speech and language teacher here - we would expect about 20% of 3&4 year olds to still struggle with what/where/who type questions, and making a choice is also beyond them, especially because at 2 they usually want both things. Since she can say no when she doesn’t want something then she clearly can make a choice.

You really do have nothing to worry about. She sounds like she’s making good progress.

mummyh2016 · 09/02/2025 19:53

Honestly she sounds like she's on the right track. And I say this as a mom with 2 children that were sent for SALT assessments. DD was under then for 4 years (she had her assessment just before Covid and then didn't see anyone for 12 months - I don't think she'd have been with them for anywhere near as long otherwise). DS has just turned 3, had an assessment with them 4 months ago and was discharged there and then.
If she has a dummy I'd get rid if you have any concerns regarding speech. DD wasn't removed until after her first assessment, DS we removed last summer and his speech came on so much in those 2 months. He goes to nursery and he went from being on a daily speech plan to being removed from it altogether before the assessment. He only had it at nighttime so wouldn't have thought it would make that much difference but it clearly did.

AnnaD2 · 09/02/2025 23:12

Early years SLT and Mum of older kids here - your child sounds like she is doing really well with her communication development. Nothing you have said would cause me to be concerned. Repetition of words and phrases is often part of neurotypical language development. Enjoy this age - it is over too soon!

Firstimemum24 · 10/02/2025 14:38

FacingTheWall · 09/02/2025 14:14

Specialist speech and language teacher here - we would expect about 20% of 3&4 year olds to still struggle with what/where/who type questions, and making a choice is also beyond them, especially because at 2 they usually want both things. Since she can say no when she doesn’t want something then she clearly can make a choice.

You really do have nothing to worry about. She sounds like she’s making good progress.

Thank you so much for your answer xx. She is a very cautious child and runs away from stranger but when new people are in the house she tends to show off and starts singing nursery rhymes and gibberish .. she doesn’t go to nursery

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