To be concerned about what Liz Kendall is up to with disability benefits?

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The Times reporting just how enthusiastic Labour are about targeting the disabled.

I can only hope they are getting the worst ideas out there first, if not I dread to think what is coming in the upcoming review.

I was confident Labour would at worst be no worse than the Tories.

I was wrong.

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There are many elephants in the room, including big business tax fraud etc etc

each is worthy of being looked if it’s considered necessary

to make the WelfareState fair for everyone as @JoyousGreyOrca noted.

What a nonsense thing to say

I don't know the exact specifics in this but I believe this to be true.

When you look how someone like Elon Musk bankrolled Trumps campaign, could we believe that Politicians would make sure their mates are ok, including high tax dodging business owners?

Don't know the answer to solve that one. I'm of the feeling they'd all make sure their mates are ok ( Politicians).

Something about Starmer struck me as someone who was human with integrity and morals. That was an error because that ' feeling ' means not very much.

Absolutely not true

PIP doesn't "just continue". It is reviewed every two years.

@Nosebooper PIP is awarded for different periods of time. And my mums PIP that she got until she died, was never reviewed.

Ten year light touch reviews after state pension age.

Yeah cos its well known that health and mobility gets better after state pension age
Check out the elderly parents board, Its like a scene from Cocoon! 🙄

@JenniferBooth My mum got PIP for depression. I agree if it is for mobility or physical disability, that is extremely unlikely to improve, so I can understand the light touch review.

Tbh I wasn’t just dwelling on that particular issue, it was one example of so many

Headliners like the RF or big business just pull in the punters
and others like taxing private schools are sure vote winners

but we have to look at everything including the benefits bill.

Labour said they would not tax workers, they didn’t say much else.
So far
they’ve hit farmers
They've hit the elderly
They've hit education
they’ve just attacked those that traditionally don’t vote for them

They’ve hit democracy by overriding the publics say on planning issues and Now they’re looking at whatever else they can do to raise money and reduce the bills…….I think it was always fairly obvious benefits would be up for grabs at some point.

and yet am I correct in thinking that if you are not receiving PIP prior to getting to pension age you can’t apply for it after.
How can that be right.
Are there no people over pension age that need PIP

or do pensioners get some other type of support that is akin to PIP.

This really worries me. My wonderful pre school aged child is on the ASD pathway, is non verbal and has significant sensory needs. He receives MR DLA despite us being in the squeezed middle (and therefore unable to access any other benefits). It’s been a lifeline tbh.

NHS therapies (such as speech and language and OT) are incredibly stretched and appointments few and far between. So DLA enables us to give him those therapies privately, freeing up space for others in the NHS system and take tangible steps to help him. It doesn’t cover all of it, but certainly helps soften the blow.

the costs are horrendous. A SLT assessment costs £300 and weekly S&LT costs £90. An OT assessment is £500, and ongoing therapy about £90 as well. We get MR DLA at £70 per week. You can do the math!

Oh will you give it a rest. You are derailing the thread and boring everyone.

That post was referring to pensioners not a couple of working age.

It's not paying them twice because they are for different people. The carers element is for the carer who may well have had to sacrifice their career to provide full time support. Carers allowance is deducted pound for pound from UC.

The disabled child element recognises the additional costs of disability alongside DLA.

Tell me you know nothing about Autism and ADHD without telling me you know nothing about Autism and ADHD....

It absolutely can be used to cover additional costs of getting to appointments.

But PIP is not an out of work benefit.

Many people with ADHD can't look after themselves - that's why they have a reduced life expectancy and make up 25% of the prison population.

Breakdown of that figure?

Of course he is. Everyone who has a motability car does.

Why are you presuming someone on PIP isn't also a tax payer?

Autism and mental illness mentioned again. Attacking invisible disabilities people don’t understand. Make them the scapegoats for cuts. Whip the people up so they punch down and don’t look up…

I thought that Rachel Reeves started with the winter fuel and land inheritance tax so that there would be less whingeing when she went after disability benefit and pensions and income tax in the future.
Britain is broke and the money has to come from somewhere - everyone moans but I’d love them to state where the money should come from - and don’t say the rich, they are already fleeing the country in droves.

If Britain is broke maybe a little from everyone instead of finding scapegoats. Oh, but that wouldn’t be a vote winnner! Silly me!

Anyhow, who would be on here so early on a Sunday morning. It’s almost like someone is paying you LOL