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AIBU?

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To wonder why there isn’t public outrage about this?

873 replies

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 12:23

If a couple isn’t married but own their property between them, the surviving one will need to pay inheritance tax on their partners half of the house (and other assets) if they die.
Effectively they will lose their home to pay the IHT unless they also have huge savings.
How can that be allowed in this day and age when so many couples cohabit without getting married?

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NordicwithTeen · 30/01/2025 14:16

KilkennyCats · 30/01/2025 14:14

Contracts are not geared around feckless arseholes who decide to “feck off” on a whim.
How can they be? Maybe women shouldn’t procreate with dickheads who’ve already done it multiple times and walked away 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yet more than half of marriages fail, so are you going to continue to blame the women as the problem here and say it's our fault they don't work? Really?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/01/2025 14:16

This is literally the point of marriage - a contract that allows couples to share their property and pass it to the other without tax consequences- so as though they were one person.

JudgeJ · 30/01/2025 14:16

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 12:44

Blimey some snarky replies. I’m guessing that most of the other posters are either married or don’t have the assets to worry about IHT.
Thanks for the replies about joint tenancy though as that does reassure me that me and my partner won’t lose our home when one of us dies.

You do however need to have wills in which the first deceased' share of the house is left to whoever they wish, with the proviso that the surviving person has a lifetime right to live in the property. If there is no will then the deceased next of kin can force the sale to recover their inheritance.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/01/2025 14:17

I’m not married and I already knew this. That’s why couples with shared financial interests should get married. Get married. You can do it without the party. I think heterosexual couples can have a civil partnership now. You just fill in some paperwork.

Grammarnut · 30/01/2025 14:17

Tja1 · 30/01/2025 13:37

@Blusterylimp i can’t believe all the backward thinking in the replies to your OP!

I didn’t know this either and I am also quite quite financially savvy.

shocking that so many people have posted to say ‘just get married.’ No, as a woman I don’t want to have to get married to protect my finances. I agree OP it’s outdated and shouldn’t be happening.

So what do you suggest? Someone has pointed out that in Australia a cohabiting couple acquire financial rights after two years. I suspect this is a cause of break-up in many cases.
If you don't want the protection of a legal contract then that is your choice. You cannot expect to have the benefits of said legal contract if you won't sign it. Why is signing a legal contract that gives particular rights (and also duties) out dated? Explain.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 30/01/2025 14:18

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/01/2025 14:16

This is literally the point of marriage - a contract that allows couples to share their property and pass it to the other without tax consequences- so as though they were one person.

Exactly. It’s like being surprised that funerals involve people dying.

HermioneWeasley · 30/01/2025 14:18

Tisthedamnseason · 30/01/2025 14:04

Right so you want the benefits of marriage but not the obligations.

You have to weigh up the positives and negatives and make your decision.

You seem to want automatic legal recognition but just in the areas that benefit you.

Spot on

and of course that automatic claim over half the house would be a problem for lots of other cohabiting couples.

HappyNewFeckingYear · 30/01/2025 14:18

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 14:09

I can see that is a grey area but there are lots of cohabiting couples who are just as committed as married ones and have been together decades.

But you aren't as committed, you won't take the financial commitment.

Likewhatever · 30/01/2025 14:19

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 14:15

oh dear, maybe I need to propose to my partner. Problem is that we don’t like each other very much 🤷‍♀️

That needn’t be an obstacle 😂

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 14:19

Spudthespanner · 30/01/2025 14:07

Public outrage?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You're daft OP.

Gee, thanks @Spudthespanner
IQ of 157 suggests otherwise.

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catndogslife · 30/01/2025 14:20

YABU
If you are both single then your estate is taxed based on 2 single people.
It's also easily solved either by getting married or having a civil partnership which is the way you can change things legally.

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 14:20

Likewhatever · 30/01/2025 14:19

That needn’t be an obstacle 😂

😀🔫

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Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 14:21

catndogslife · 30/01/2025 14:20

YABU
If you are both single then your estate is taxed based on 2 single people.
It's also easily solved either by getting married or having a civil partnership which is the way you can change things legally.

Even though the surviving one will lose the house we have jointly owned and lived in for decades?

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Grammarnut · 30/01/2025 14:23

Tja1 · 30/01/2025 13:38

@AliceSpringsEverywhere 🤦🏼‍♀️do you just suck up everything? You don’t have an opinion on being forced into marriage to protect finances?

You are not forced. Get solid, good, impartial legal advice and follow it. This will cost more than a marriage licence or civil partnership, but it is your choice. What you - and OP - don't seem to understand is that marriage/a civil partnership is a legal contract, just like buying a house, getting a passport or a driving licence etc. If you won't have the contract you cannot have the advantages it brings.
And also you don't understand that marriage/a civil partnership is a public declaration that you are a couple, that it must be witnessed and that it must be registered by the appropriate regulatory body (quite a wide range of these for both sorts of contract). What it doesn't require is an expensive frock, rings, a party etc. Those are the peripheries.

Hoover2025 · 30/01/2025 14:23

Ophy83 · 30/01/2025 12:58

This isn't correct - ownership automatically falls to the remaining JT without having to go through probate, but half the value of the property is still added to the deceased's estate for the purposes of an IHT calculation

This is why it’s quite good sometimes to actually keep a mortgage.

The value of my share with mortgage would not meet the threshold. We have life insurance policies in trust which wouldn’t be affected by IHT. The other partner could then pay off the mortgage and own the half with no IHT.

Digdongdoo · 30/01/2025 14:24

Blusterylimp · 30/01/2025 14:21

Even though the surviving one will lose the house we have jointly owned and lived in for decades?

If they lose the house, that would entirely down to their own failure to plan. This information is easily accessible. It's personal choice.

Mopsandcustard · 30/01/2025 14:24

You can't have your cake and eat it.
You either share your assets legally when alive or dead or you don't. You can't expect new laws to be invented to suit everyone who doesn't like the ones we have.
Having children with a man who won't commit legally is a choice.

forthistimeonly · 30/01/2025 14:25

Which is why I got married and have advised my daughter to do so.

Hoover2025 · 30/01/2025 14:26

Mopsandcustard · 30/01/2025 14:24

You can't have your cake and eat it.
You either share your assets legally when alive or dead or you don't. You can't expect new laws to be invented to suit everyone who doesn't like the ones we have.
Having children with a man who won't commit legally is a choice.

Well you can. You just need to know how.

2025ohdear · 30/01/2025 14:27

TeaAndStrumpets · 30/01/2025 12:26

Marriage is a contract. This is the deal.

I keep banging on about this to my children. It's a contract. The dress etc is optional

forthistimeonly · 30/01/2025 14:27

I'm now divorced and buying a property with my partner. We will be tenants in common in order to protect our assets.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 30/01/2025 14:28

toomuchfaff · 30/01/2025 12:28

Then they need to transfer the house so its owned as "tenants in common"

That doesn't stop HMRC charging inheritance tax on the deceased's half!

heuchera · 30/01/2025 14:29

DH and I didn’t really want to get married. But we did, purely because of this issue.

ManchesterLu · 30/01/2025 14:29

If this wasn't the case, you would be able to cheat inheritance tax very easily by buying a small portion of the property from your parents etc. It has to be this way.

Rainydaysandrainynights · 30/01/2025 14:30

This is nothing new? ...rights and responsibilities go hand in hand...