To say that a lot of people who claim to hate their jobs are just lazy?

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I understand that some workplaces are toxic but isn’t it true that many people complain about work because they don’t like putting in effort?
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I absolutely hate all that crap. The day I feel passionate about administration is the day I know there is something drastically wrong with all my life choices that have led to that point.

For most people, for most jobs, the truthful answer is exactly as you said. No trust fund, no doting dead childless millionaire aunt, and state retirement age is 67, so work it is.

Can we keep Mumsnet but remove all the people? It would be so peaceful!

Yeah it's great, seen so many good and useful threads completely deleted because of it

Yes very disappointing when you’ve invested a bit of time and thought in to it. A great idea.

What better motivation is there than a mortgage payment and a gas bill. All this passion nonsense sticks right in my craw.

What gets my goat about work (even jobs I’ve enjoyed) is 40-hour weeks. Eight-hour days! Made longer by the enforced lunch break in the middle. I wasn’t made to toil for nine hours like a medieval peasant. And most jobs don’t really need that many hours, a lot of it is made-up busy work. There’s a certain point in the day when you’ve done a lot of work then you’re burned out, but you can’t stop because it’s not the end of the day, so they just pile more on. Just let me toil for five hours in-between school runs, I promise you I can get the same amount of nonsense done, just drop the mental health zoominar and company-wide PowerPoint presentation on Teams and the remote stand-up meeting (an actual thing at my last job, so we were all standing up looming over our laptops giving everyone a view of underboob and chins), then there’s plenty of time.

Nicely played!

Overall, I love my job, it’s a vocation, I am extremely passionate about it. Some days, I would easily use the word “hate” when I’ve been verbally and physically abused for trying to support people who claim to want to use the services. I am blamed for things that have absolutely nothing to do with me or my service. Our senior management team are great but on the board? They don’t seem to remember what it’s like do be on the ground. They make fucked up decisions that affect their staff and vulnerable citizens. So on those days, I will moan and say I hate my job today.

I would have thought the people that love their jobs are more likely to be lazy. I'm now at a position I get paid for my expertise rather than hour by hour what I do. I work hard generally but if I decide not to then I have a day when I don't.

Something to do with the local council, not quite sure exactly but id love the job too!

Most people don’t love their jobs but have to earn money so they have somewhere to live…

I embrace my laziness now. I worked for many years and brought up two children alone so I feel I’ve paid my dues and if I want to spend all day mooching about doing sod all I will.

I have sat in an interviews where I have outright said what attracted me to apply was because I could do the job and I needed a wage.

It filters out the jobs that will be terrible, you know the ones where "everyone here is like family", code for we expect you to work unpaid overtime and during weekends, evenings and holidays. Also the "good sense of humour (now rephrased as excellent soft skills) will help you fit in", code for we want an unchallenging sap and we will treat you like dirt and get rid of you the moment we need to save on the wage bill type of place.

One interviewer laughed his socks off and shook my hand for being the only honest applicant he'd ever met, I got that job.

No. I disagree.

Work is necessary in our society to allow us to support ourselves. Most of us have no choice.

It's a shame because we only have one life - maybe 60-70 years and we have to spend the bulk of it working. Often hours working at something we don't hate but aren't excited by either.

There are so many more enjoyable ways to spend our time but that is usually confined to the short time that we are not wage slaves.

Sad really.

I'd say showing up every day and doing a good job even though you're not enjoying something is the opposite of lazy. Refusing to work when you could is lazy. Calling in sick when you're not is lazy. Half-arsing everything in your job and letting colleagues pick up the slack is lazy. We all have to do stuff we don't enjoy all the time (household chores and admin etc). If we get on and do them regardless, we're not lazy.

Funnily enough the laziest workers I have ever met are the most useless. It’s silly because they spend the day doing absolutely nothing and getting paid for it.

I think there are many reasons one might not like their job and one of the most common is actually being good at what you do, passionate but not feeling that you are appreciated. Or sometimes jobs are the same day in and day out and people get bored. Or some people land a job that doesn’t match them at all and they are there for the money.

Not everyone that hates their job is lazy.

Doing nothing is sometimes the worst part of a job. If I’m at work then I’d rather be busy. It makes the day go quicker.

That's awful. Were management aware?