To say that a lot of people who claim to hate their jobs are just lazy?

[BeWaryNavySheep]

I understand that some workplaces are toxic but isn’t it true that many people complain about work because they don’t like putting in effort?
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Yeh I'm pretty lazy to be fair. But I get up and go to work anyway cos I have to and I need money.
So why is my intrinsic laziness a problem if I'm still going to work? And yeh I moan about it cos I'd rather be spending my time doing what I want, hobbies and chilling and nice lunches and shopping. But I can't do those things, and I don't do those things, I go to work.

I happily admit I'm lazy by default. Why is that a bad thing?

This isn't worth any more of a response other than posting to say it's not worth a response. Off the charts daftest thing I have ever heard! 😂

Exactly

What does your friend's dd do pancake parlour? Id love a job like that!

I think that's a very odd assumption. You can hate your job and still work hard at it. You can hate your job even though you prefer another that is the same/even more work.

I once had a job I hated. It was so overstaffed I spent the majority of the time sitting at my desk doing nothing - some weeks I had maybe 2 hours of work the whole week. It wasn't laziness that made me hate that!

The idea that we have to love our job or choose a vocation is capitalist bullshit. It isn’t laziness to see through this. The idea we have to work ourselves to the bone for just enough money to pay the bills, will no doubt, cause many people to become disenchanted and understandably so.

@BeWaryNavySheep. This thread shows a lack of empathy from you and the inability to objectively see that 'hating your job' could have so many variables as to why (not just a toxic environment).

Getting your backside up everyday, to do a job that you hate is the exact opposite of lazy!

I entered the workplace in the early 80s. It was so much more sociable and relaxed then, people took proper coffee lunch and tea breaks away from their desk and going to the pub Friday lunchtime was not unheard of. Things began to change in the late 90s/early 00s, and by the time I retired 5 years ago (I was very lucky to be able to do this) it had become unbearable, everyone was so stuffy and deadly earnest and it was just no fun.

I'm lazy, but I only ever had one job I hated (shit management, mainly) in over 50 years of working, so no, I don't think you are correct.

Despite my intrinsic laziness (or perhaps because of it) I was commended for how much I achieved in practically all my roles.

Work smarter, not harder was my technique long before it became a catchphrase.

@BeWaryNavySheep
I used to love my job now I don't.
Decades of decline, incompetent managers.
Ridiculous amounts of paperwork.
Levels of expectations from a lot but not all of our users are imo too high.
I go in each shift with a positive mindset I often leave demoralised and weary of it all.
I am not lazy far from it.
If you hate/dislike your job it is a much more complex set of reasons that have led you to feeling like this rather than being lazy.
Your post makes little sense and you haven't returned to clarify exactly what you mean.

Somebody who hates their job but still goes on and do it is not lazy! They can have good reasons for hating their job but having to do it in order to put food on the table.

Yesssss! I’m younger than you but was around for the dying days of pub lunches, long lunches, daytime boozing.

Even my “fun” jobs (fashion industry) stopped the fun factor eventually, though a lot of that coincided with the 2008 recession. We went from Konditer & Cook and champagne for birthdays to Colin the Caterpillar and cups of tea. #mystruggle

(WFH now so theoretically I could crack open an M&S gin in a tin at lunchtime, for nostalgia vibes, but it’s not the same.)

Most people only work because they are being paid.

Look at it the it another way - if an employer decided to pay double the market rate, they could expect to attract the most motivated staff because they appreciate what the employer is offering them.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

Who likes putting in effort?? Isn't that the opposite of the definition of effort? If you liked it, it would be easy, not effortful.

I mean yes, there is a sense of satisfaction from a job well-done, or in feeling competent in displaying a skill which perhaps not many people have. You can feel motivated by a short term or long term goal which makes the effort feel worth it.

But effort, on its own, isn't rewarding. That's normal. It's not lazy to feel that way, it's just human. The body doesn't like expending effort unnecessarily - that is inefficient and wastes energy.

Not sure of your point OP.

I suspect this is just a deliberately goady post, but YABVU. I’ve had jobs that I hated BECAUSE I was busting a gut and getting absolutely nowhere because of useless managers, bad workplace cultures etc. I’ve known many other people who have felt the same.

What @FictionalCharacter said. Spot on. I should be able to love my job, I’m doing exactly what I trained for, its meaningful, useful, just under national average pay which could be better but I went into it with open eyes on that. But yeah, I’d ditch it in a heartbeat because to the ridiculous, relentless, impossible workload and tosspot managers who want the moon but never leave me alone long enough to actually get on with any of it.

So given a binary choice of love it or hate it I pick hate.

Why should people enjoy putting in effort for their employer, though? Why would you expect them to be joyful about it? It's a means of survival, that's all.

And even if they don't enjoy their job, if they're doing their job they're not being lazy.

I don't hate my job at all - but I certainly wouldn't do it if I didn't have to. I wouldn't do any job at all if I didn't have to.

There are much more interesting and more important and fulfilling things in my life than work. I have many ambitions and passions and absolutely none of them involve making money and/or turning up to an office to serve an employer. That simply isn't important to me. It's simply a means to an end, a necessary evil that enables me to do the other stuff in my life that actually matters.

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Doesn’t surprise me at all that it was a troll.

I like the idea you can remove the troll but keep the thread, is that new?

I think turning up for a job you hate day after day is the exact opposite of lazy TBH. I also don't think being lazy is necessarily a bad thing.

Isn’t it annoying though when you have to pretend to an interviewer that it’s your absolute passion and has been since birth to work for them. When all you really want to say is, I’ve got bills to pay and that is the reason why I’m sitting here being interviewed. I’ll turn up everyday and do a good job because I have to.

Bullshit.

I hated my last job because I was completely ill suited to it. I spent several years training and passing exams and there was an element of sunk cost fallacy, plus I just didn't know what else to do that would be a better fit. I liked all my colleagues and the work was sometimes pretty interesting but I was just the wrong person to do it. I worked hard and nobody could have ever called me lazy but I hated 90% of it and every day was a slog.

I'm now in a different job in the same company that is a much better fit for my personality, interests and skill set. I like it much better. I'm not any more or less lazy and I don't work any more or less hard but it's easier to motivate myself to put the work in, and that almost feels lazier than when I was in the previous job and hated the work but did it anyway.

Oh jeez yes, excruciating. We have some £25k jobs (with no progression routes, just jobs) open at our place and the profiles are all filled with words like ‘passion’ and ‘laser focus’. Absolute tosh

Are you Georgia toffolo OP? 😂😂

I've a feeling it might be the other way around. Most of the people I know who hate their jobs do so because they're exhausted, under too much pressure and overworked. I find the ones who are happiest are the ones who don't pull their weight and just coast, letting everyone else pick up the slack.
Not everyone obviously! It depends on the workplace, type of job and person, but that's my experience.