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To think we are becoming a country of hypochondriacs?

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YellowTulips25 · 29/01/2025 08:51

Firstly, let me preface this by saying that I entirely sympathise with people who have to live with serious long-term medical conditions. I don't wish to downplay illness or disabilities - visible or hidden - at all.

However, does anyone else feel like we're rapidly becoming a country of hypochondriacs, where an increasing number of people let seemingly minor health issues dominate their life?

For example, an article on the BBC this week features a woman who talks about having 'chronic pain, migraines and travel sickness' as reasons why it's impossible for her to work in an office. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9x0819417o

I think most of us suffer from aches and pains and headaches from time to time? What'd happen if we all started using this excuse?

And I know plenty of friends who always seem to have some ailment or other troubling them, whether it's being in pain, being tired, having a cough or cold, etc etc. It seems almost as if constantly being ill is part of their personality, a badge of honour?

I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but surely I can't be the only one to feel like rolling my eyes at some people's lack of resilience?

A woman with grey hair is stood centre frame. She has a solemn impression on her face and is wearing a grey turtle neck and light blue coat. She is stood in the woods.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9x0819417o

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AIBot · 29/01/2025 14:23

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Differentstarts · 29/01/2025 14:24

Bumpitybumper · 29/01/2025 14:15

Stop trying to shut down discussion by deliberately not acknowledging nuance. Nobody has said that all disabled people are faking it or are snowflakes. We cannot ignore the explosion of claims for disability and sickness benefits and there is a growing feeling that not all of these claims are completely valid. The poll in this thread reflects this.

Considering the state of the country's finances and the debt burden the country carries where interest payments alone are crippling us then we are not in the financial position to not tackle this. It's not about targeting groups for their characteristics but about ensuring systems and resources designed to help and support the most vulnerable in society aren't being exploited. Like it or not, there is a real feeling at the moment that people are manipulating the system and this is often informed by people's anecdotal experiences where they know people that quite openly do this. This is why posters claiming that it never happens fall on dead ears and people become suspicious of everyone as there is just no acceptance of the obvious. We need to root the exploiters out so that the system is sustainable and can support the right people.

Nobody is getting pip without strong medical evidence the fraud rate is 0.4 % so practically non existence so please tell us how people are manipulating the system. Lots of posters on here have used the word snowflake, hypochondriac and faking it. Have you ever thought the reason so many people are struggling with their health is because the nhs is failing them. But of course it's easier to blame the vulnerable person then look at the true cause of the issue. I work part time and am only able to do so due to having a boss who is understanding of disability and flexible if he wasn't like a lot on this thread then I'd be another person who couldn't work. So maybe if people's attitudes changed towards disabled people and instead of slagging them off try to understand there needs then more would be able to work with help.

Differentstarts · 29/01/2025 14:25

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JasmineTea11 · 29/01/2025 14:25

YANBU. At all, this is a serious problem, especially when you have a crumbling NHS and GPs under extreme pressure. And a benefits system which rewards 'sickness' as opposed to unemployment.

beauborino · 29/01/2025 14:25

More than 3 million on "sickness benefit "...when the availability of wfh jobs is higher than ever .
1 year on benefits max am sure people would step up and be productive ..

BobbyPeruLikeTheCountry · 29/01/2025 14:27

beauborino · 29/01/2025 14:25

More than 3 million on "sickness benefit "...when the availability of wfh jobs is higher than ever .
1 year on benefits max am sure people would step up and be productive ..

Yes, people will miraculously suddenly stop being sick because they have no money. Sure.

RadicalRaven · 29/01/2025 14:29

beauborino · 29/01/2025 14:25

More than 3 million on "sickness benefit "...when the availability of wfh jobs is higher than ever .
1 year on benefits max am sure people would step up and be productive ..

No money would definitely help my bipolar disorder.

Posts like this really make me feel like shit about myself. But I expect that is what you were hoping for OP.

Differentstarts · 29/01/2025 14:30

beauborino · 29/01/2025 14:25

More than 3 million on "sickness benefit "...when the availability of wfh jobs is higher than ever .
1 year on benefits max am sure people would step up and be productive ..

And how many of them 3 million are stuck on nhs waiting lists getting worse

Crikeyalmighty · 29/01/2025 14:30

I agree with the poster who talked about preventative- I've long held the viewpoint that for quite minimal cost relative to further costs down the line- the gvt could set up preventative clinics in town where once a year you made an appointment and got a 'full ' blood and urine check, blood pressure check and a chest x Ray, free of charge - this does not need staffing by doctors but by trained up phlebotomists, nursing assistants and obviously a radiographer. Any follow ups done via GP./GP assistant.

There are many things if picked up early would have better outcomes.

PandoraSox · 29/01/2025 14:31

JasmineTea11 · 29/01/2025 14:25

YANBU. At all, this is a serious problem, especially when you have a crumbling NHS and GPs under extreme pressure. And a benefits system which rewards 'sickness' as opposed to unemployment.

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f you ever become disabled, you'll soon find out about these "rewards". Or do you think illness and disability only happens to those less deserving that you?

BobbiJo · 29/01/2025 14:31

beauborino · 29/01/2025 14:25

More than 3 million on "sickness benefit "...when the availability of wfh jobs is higher than ever .
1 year on benefits max am sure people would step up and be productive ..

Oh yes.
Cause poverty would alleviate all the illness symptoms.. not make them worse at all.

I hope to god people that hold this opinion fall fowl of an illness.. because nothing will change your tunes faster than experiencing the life of those you look down on..

BlingLoving · 29/01/2025 14:31

YellowTulips25 · 29/01/2025 13:58

Not sure why this is relevant to the discussion. Are you the thread police?

To answer your question, I started reading this website fairly recently and found the discussions interesting. I've been wondering about this topic for a while, as I've been feeling increasingly fed up of hearing about friends' health concerns (bad back, painful chest, you name it) and, as I said, this is something that's becoming increasingly prevalent. I was just curious to hear what other people thought.

Sorry if posting something slightly controversial as my first post goes against unwritten MN rules!

What exactly are we talking about here in terms of friends, their ages, your relationship? Because casual friends who don't know me that well would probablu not even know I have this disability or that gives me grief. People I see regularly might have an idea but I'd keep it light - eg if they see I am moving strangely or if I'm embarassed because I am struggling to carry something and I'd just say somethign like, "oh, I have a bit of a dodgy shoulder but I'll be fine tomorrow|."

But my close friends do know becuase they're the ones who I feel comfortable complaining that it's bloody painful this week and it's making normal tasks 1million times harder than usual.

Differentstarts · 29/01/2025 14:32

Crikeyalmighty · 29/01/2025 14:30

I agree with the poster who talked about preventative- I've long held the viewpoint that for quite minimal cost relative to further costs down the line- the gvt could set up preventative clinics in town where once a year you made an appointment and got a 'full ' blood and urine check, blood pressure check and a chest x Ray, free of charge - this does not need staffing by doctors but by trained up phlebotomists, nursing assistants and obviously a radiographer. Any follow ups done via GP./GP assistant.

There are many things if picked up early would have better outcomes.

I have lots of tests and to be fair when you start looking you just find more issues. Over testing isn't always a good thing

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 14:34

I agree about over testing. You have a bad cold your blood pressure may register as too high.
Preventative testing targets those most at risk. So targeting those who are older, or already have risk factors makes sense. Testing healthy 25 year olds makes no sense at all.

BobbiJo · 29/01/2025 14:34

RadicalRaven · 29/01/2025 14:29

No money would definitely help my bipolar disorder.

Posts like this really make me feel like shit about myself. But I expect that is what you were hoping for OP.

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Be kind to yourself Raven. Some people have their heads so far up their backsides, they sit on their shoulders. ❤️❤️

PandoraSox · 29/01/2025 14:37

RadicalRaven · 29/01/2025 14:29

No money would definitely help my bipolar disorder.

Posts like this really make me feel like shit about myself. But I expect that is what you were hoping for OP.

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You are worth far, far more than posters like that. I pity them in a way for being so full of bitterness and so lacking in empathy.

Bumpitybumper · 29/01/2025 14:38

GoldOrca · 29/01/2025 14:11

I just feel like you're blaming disabled people though. Why can't we organise society to protect the vulnerable? Or even include them? It is just so grating hearing the assumption that we arent trying hard enough, that we are a burden, that we are making it up. People forget that anyone can become disabled at any time, and most of the time it's not their fault. I just urge you to have a bit more compassion, not everyone can be the model member of society you seem you expect them to be.

Society is organised to protect the vulnerable but this is where the problem arises. The system is currently organised is a way that assumes that the vulnerable are a relatively small minority and that the non vulnerable majority can contribute enough to provide the additional support and resources that the vulnerable need. There unfortunately is a sub-section of people though that see this and want to exploit it. The reality is for many people it is easier to be seen a vulnerable because of the extra benefits and allowances you get by doing this. It is sadly human nature and anecdotal evidence on this thread, countless other threads and experiences in my own life have proven this to be true.

So we end up in a situation where society becomes suspicious of everyone. Resentment grows and doubts fester. The most vulnerable end up losing out as resources are overstretched and there is a growing desire to restrict spending in this area as many taxpayers feel they are being taken for a ride. It is sad but it is what will happen when society's kindness and compassion is taken for weakness. There will always be those who seek to exploit this for personal gain.

MaturingCheeseball · 29/01/2025 14:40

I don’t think many people are faking illness, but more likely have a genuinely skewed perception of how ill they are - particularly with mental health “conditions” such as depression and anxiety and, most of all, stress.

Of course it’s impossible to judge and so doctors and employers err on the side of caution. Is someone in a really bad place through job stress, or do they find the job frustrating and don’t like being reprimanded? I know the latter person - was given a warning for calling in sick at Christmas so promptly went off with stress - signed off long-term by doctor.

BobbyPeruLikeTheCountry · 29/01/2025 14:41

Bumpitybumper · 29/01/2025 14:38

Society is organised to protect the vulnerable but this is where the problem arises. The system is currently organised is a way that assumes that the vulnerable are a relatively small minority and that the non vulnerable majority can contribute enough to provide the additional support and resources that the vulnerable need. There unfortunately is a sub-section of people though that see this and want to exploit it. The reality is for many people it is easier to be seen a vulnerable because of the extra benefits and allowances you get by doing this. It is sadly human nature and anecdotal evidence on this thread, countless other threads and experiences in my own life have proven this to be true.

So we end up in a situation where society becomes suspicious of everyone. Resentment grows and doubts fester. The most vulnerable end up losing out as resources are overstretched and there is a growing desire to restrict spending in this area as many taxpayers feel they are being taken for a ride. It is sad but it is what will happen when society's kindness and compassion is taken for weakness. There will always be those who seek to exploit this for personal gain.

But it's always the people on the bottom of the rung that people target and accuse of exploiting the system, isn't it? There's not post after post on here about the likes of Michelle Mone exploiting the system, but tons of benefits bashing goes on unchecked.

QuestionableMouse · 29/01/2025 14:42

COVID happened and unfortunately it's left a lot of formerly well people damaged. It's something like 2m people!

Bumpitybumper · 29/01/2025 14:43

Differentstarts · 29/01/2025 14:24

Nobody is getting pip without strong medical evidence the fraud rate is 0.4 % so practically non existence so please tell us how people are manipulating the system. Lots of posters on here have used the word snowflake, hypochondriac and faking it. Have you ever thought the reason so many people are struggling with their health is because the nhs is failing them. But of course it's easier to blame the vulnerable person then look at the true cause of the issue. I work part time and am only able to do so due to having a boss who is understanding of disability and flexible if he wasn't like a lot on this thread then I'd be another person who couldn't work. So maybe if people's attitudes changed towards disabled people and instead of slagging them off try to understand there needs then more would be able to work with help.

The reported 0.4% rate of fraud has been calculated and verified how? It's almost impossible to prove that a PIP claim is fraudulent and infinitely harder than something like housing or child benefit. The government actually has no idea how many people are claiming PIP at higher levels than they should be or how many people are claiming PIP that shouldn't be eligible at all. I hate the fact that this statistic is banded around as if it's definitive proof that fraudulent claims aren't being made.

MaturingCheeseball · 29/01/2025 14:44

Quite agree with @Bumpitybumper . One person off sick - everyone’s sympathetic. Six people off sick and those left are not very sympathetic at all.

Bogginsthe3rd · 29/01/2025 14:45

Every snowflake is different

BeQuirkyBalonz · 29/01/2025 14:46

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Differentstarts · 29/01/2025 14:49

Bumpitybumper · 29/01/2025 14:43

The reported 0.4% rate of fraud has been calculated and verified how? It's almost impossible to prove that a PIP claim is fraudulent and infinitely harder than something like housing or child benefit. The government actually has no idea how many people are claiming PIP at higher levels than they should be or how many people are claiming PIP that shouldn't be eligible at all. I hate the fact that this statistic is banded around as if it's definitive proof that fraudulent claims aren't being made.

Do you have any idea how much medical evidence you need to get pip