To think Princess Di was killed

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There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

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Here you are daleylama, a little light reading for you 😂

Just when you thought the Jews couldn’t be blamed for anything more, they’re now getting the blame for Diana.

Would love to know how this woman (with a very dodgy history) think the Jews knew how to predict the car Diana would be in and tamper with the seatbelt?

😂😂 just thought I'd add her voice to the mix, she's certainly the most qualified amongst anyone here who has given their opinion. I haven't researched this so have no firm opinion either way, but the discussion reminded me of this video

You're welcome 😘

@YesYesKitten the RF didn’t seem bothered about her relationship with Hasnet Khan who was also Muslim.

Yes I believe she was.

Ah, this old chestnut.

Most of the nonsense believed about that fateful night comes from Fayed - and we now know exactly what sort of man he was. Pregnancy, a secret engagement, murder plots - all came from his mouth.

It was partly to wage war against the British government who had denied him citizenship and partly to shift blame off himself for the disasters that night, Ordering a staff member with a well known drink problem (who wasn’t meant to be working that night) to drive at high speed to escape the paps. Probably to create more drama for his own ends.

The RF have dealt with troublesome members before - Edward and Wallis Simpson, Fergie, Andrew, Harry and Meghan. Why didn’t they instruct M15’s secret hit squad to bump them off too? Apparently a fling with a rich Muslim and some photos with landmines is enough to seal your fate.

I just watched The Jackal and blimey, that was far fetched but at no time did he fiddle with a seatbelt in the off chance that the car would later crash into a pillar, or drive an old Fiat into a bloody big Mercedes and hope for the best.

She’s a 9/11 ‘truther’.

It never takes long for anti-Semites to crawl out of the woodwork.

I actually think Wallis Simpson did the country a huge favour - if not for her we’d have ended up with a monarch with fascist sympathies.

Yes, and it also said that the conduct of the following vehicles (ie the paps) was a contributing factor.

But that the cause was a drunk driver and passengers not wearing seatbelts

That’s fanciful

Parliament was in recess at the time. There would have been no fuss. And the call she made to her friend (widely reported) does not back up this version - the late change was the stop off in Paris, not the fact of the return. The only thing on her mind with timing (as she expressed to her friend) was when the 50/50 custody arrangements that split the boys holidays pretty evenly between the parents meant they left Balmoral to come to her.

She’d been in an apparently serious relationship for 2 years with a Muslim man, and neither she nor he appeared to have been targeted in any way for that.

Yes, closeness to the Al Fayeds, and the brand new start of a relationship with Dodi, which some would characterise as not having got beyond the holidays fling stage, might indeed have been cause for concern

After all, there was huge fuss about his citizenship, which suggests (but does not prove) that the government did have strong (but not public) reasons to deny it, even in what could have been a straightforward investor case.

But it doesn’t follow that assassination when the relationship was only a few weeks long was a reasonable policy reaction

They died in a horrible RTA

I always thought the Fiat was a contributory factor in that it happened to be on the dual carriageway in the right hand lane and driving at the speed limit (30 mph) when Henri Paul drove down the incline into the tunnel in the left hand lane, but at nearly 70mph.

What should have been a completely routine traffic situation (two cars in adjacent lanes in a tunnel) turned into a fatal accident because Henri Paul’s judgment and reactions were impacted by the alcohol he consumed, and he was travelling far too fast to be safe in that environment. Even a glancing blow on the rear of the Fiat as he passed it could have led to an overreaction that took the Mercedes too far too the left, and into one of the reinforced concrete pillars, and that was that.

Oh YAWN!

After all, there was huge fuss about his citizenship, which suggests (but does not prove) that the government did have strong (but not public) reasons to deny it, even in what could have been a straightforward investor case.

The government’s concerns about Al Fayed were fairly public. There had been concerns about how he’s bought firstly the House of Fraser, and then Harrods, and the Department of Trade and Industry investigated him in 1987. Their report concluded that he hand his brother had “dishonestly represented their origins, their wealth, their business interests and their resources to the Secretary of State, to the Office of Fair Trading, to the House of Fraser board and shareholders, and their own advisers”.

Then there was the “cash for questions” scandal in the early 1990s. Mohammed Al Fayed used another MP as an intermediary to pay money to MP Neil Hamilton to ask questions on Al Fayed’s behalf in Parliament.

So there were good public reasons for him to be regarded as a shady character, quite apart from wheat we have recently learned about him. And there was a lot of speculation that he was bribing politicians and civil servants throughout the 1980s and 1990s.

Yes, that's one of the luckier escapes in recent history.

Many assume she was killed .

I think people reach for 'reasons' because of the shock of her dying in such circumstances. She was young, beautiful, did good things for many people and the public held her in the highest esteem. She was the most photographed woman on earth. But she was actually though just a fragile human when all is said and done. A victim of the media's relentless greed and pursuit of stories and money; a getaway plan gone wrong; the poor judgement, speed and excessive alcohol consumption of the driver; and her own poor judgement/ haste in not wearing her seatbelt. A perfect storm of elements that had a catastrophic result. Was she killed? Yes. By the intoxicated driver, coupled with speed as a result of being hunted by paps. By that state? No. We just find it incomprehensible that someone like her should die as a result of such a terrible series of coincidental and entirely avoidable events.

Absolutely. Wallis Simpson should probably have a statue on Whitehall.

@Lampzade, many assume Diana was killed, sure, but many also think the Channel Tunnel is a glass tube from which you can wave at fish, that dairy cows lactate naturally, and that pineapples grow on trees, so I’m not sure that’s much of an indication of anything.

Not so much a lucky escape for her. She apparently wasn't that bothered about Edward but the whole marriage was pushed to get him off the Throne. Ever since then she's been the Devil incarnate when she really took a highly unsuitable man off the throne without the establishment having to admit that the King was dodgy and the reputations damage caused of having to remove him.

Exactly. A Nazi sympathiser sulking in Bermuda or knocking about a Parisian mansion is a lot less embarrassing than one on the throne.

(Perhaps there is a secret shrine to Wallis Simpson in Buckingham Palace where the reigning monarch goes to light candles and give thanks weekly?)