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To think Princess Di was killed

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Lavenderfarmcottage · 28/01/2025 15:35

There OK I said it. You hoo, crazy conspiracy theorist over here…

Yes, I know they had an inquiry though anyone high up enough to kill a Royal could snowball an Inquiry or influence the outcome ? I think it’s naive to think the law is this perfect thing.

Ive always found it odd that she was labelled a “loose cannon” by the press and was campaigning against landmines. It was said that it caused a lot of noses out of joint in politics. I would have thought that weapons dealers and the industry would have taken a huge hit.

There aren’t many celebrities or organisations that could have taken on the weapons or arms industry as powerfully as Diana. It was until then an issue that nobody touched.

Since her death there’s still landmines and the issue has never really been addressed.

I wonder if she’d been alive today what she’d be doing. Not hard to imagine her visiting children impacted by war and maybe even Palestinian refugees, beaming images around the world to restore some sanity and humanity.

I dont think we realise the humanity, bravery and brilliance she had. Could have been going to glamorous events and being a Princess but instead she was carrying on even when powerful people were upset.

I wonder how powerful those people were or was it someone British. Men don’t take a liking to women with power and it amazes me more that she wasn’t killed deliberately in the context of this.

What are the chances she would die at such a young age and to not be wearing a seat belt seems bizarre to me. Just too many coincidences.

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wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 29/01/2025 19:09

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 19:07

And so would Charles

What would Charles say?

Their marriage ended unhappily, so they're hardly going to be reminiscing about the better times, are they?! They hardly hated each other all along - the marriage produced two children!

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 19:09

People go on about the drunk driver and leave out that a car hit the Mercedes she was in.

theduchessofspork · 29/01/2025 19:14

I think YABU to be thinking about it.

daleylama · 29/01/2025 19:15

BIWI · 28/01/2025 15:56

Just as bad!

Difference being, one was a very well explored and explained car accident...the other 2 were guns/ assassins. The only dispute there being who organised them

Stepfordian · 29/01/2025 19:18

Teddybear23 · 29/01/2025 19:00

I watched the documentary on her death and am 100% convinced she was murdered. There really is SO much we were not told and still probably don’t know that shows a cover up. Eg one French man went to the police just after the accident to give his account of what he saw and the police told him to go home! That’s just one small fact that proves there was something going on that we didn’t know about.

But if it was a cover up they would’ve taken his statement and then ignored it, not left him walking around telling people they didn’t want his statement, it’s more likely that it was a police officer who got the wrong end of the stick or thought he was a nutter.

deeahgwitch · 29/01/2025 19:19

".......Julia Carling rightly pointed out that given Diana wanged on about how damaging Charles's affair was you think she wouldn't do it to someone else. They had two kids as well."
I agree with you there @JandamiHash
I was a Diana fan but that really disappointed me. The hypocrisy.

Charles and Diana Spencer spoke about how devastated they were when their parents split and their mother left.
It hasn't stopped Charles Spencer splitting from the mothers of his, is it 7, children.

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 19:20

Stepfordian · 29/01/2025 19:18

But if it was a cover up they would’ve taken his statement and then ignored it, not left him walking around telling people they didn’t want his statement, it’s more likely that it was a police officer who got the wrong end of the stick or thought he was a nutter.

But who even knows about this? I have never heard it before

daleylama · 29/01/2025 19:29

Theunamedcat · 29/01/2025 09:35

She was due back on the 28th the backlash and criticism from the government over her landmine campaign made her decide to stay a couple of days longer

. Odd that there's no reportage to back your claim

daleylama · 29/01/2025 19:31

EdithWeston · 29/01/2025 09:47

Because, as gone in to at the Inquest, she was on a brand of combined pill that you take 3 weeks on, one off, and have a withdrawal bleed.

Really? Can you supply a link? Why would an inquest into a car accident have revealed details regarding contraception?

Zone2NorthLondon · 29/01/2025 19:31

i see this is still going
murderous conspiracies,
passerby anecdotes is fact,
convoluted theories from Gotham
body doubles
kidnapped to Gloomy Glamis castle
assassin
drunk chauffeur and poorly planned security plans
Theories about the ED, the paramedics, the gendarmerie,the first responders all being complicit and compliant in a conspiracy theory
Russians
Enemies of Al Fayed
Phil Mitchell
Have I missed owt?

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 19:34

daleylama · 29/01/2025 19:31

Really? Can you supply a link? Why would an inquest into a car accident have revealed details regarding contraception?

Because the inquest considered whether Diana was pregnant

Serenster · 29/01/2025 19:34

daleylama · 29/01/2025 19:31

Really? Can you supply a link? Why would an inquest into a car accident have revealed details regarding contraception?

Because Mohammed Al Fayed insisted she was pregnant to his son, and that was a key motivation for her murder.

As the Paget review dealt with the allegations raised by Al Fayed, this was one of them.

Leedsfan247 · 29/01/2025 19:37

If you wanted to kill somebody causing a car accident would not rate as a high possibility to get a result.

Yogaatsunrise · 29/01/2025 19:40

Leedsfan247 · 29/01/2025 19:37

If you wanted to kill somebody causing a car accident would not rate as a high possibility to get a result.

Or the accident could be a decoy, and not the actual assassination.

Zone2NorthLondon · 29/01/2025 19:40

Leedsfan247 · 29/01/2025 19:37

If you wanted to kill somebody causing a car accident would not rate as a high possibility to get a result.

On the contrary a high speed RTA with no seat belt has high chance of fatalities

EdithWeston · 29/01/2025 19:42

daleylama · 29/01/2025 19:31

Really? Can you supply a link? Why would an inquest into a car accident have revealed details regarding contraception?

Inquest transcripts are linked earlier in the thread.

It was on 12 April, the pills themselves were in her belongings. Also Hasnat Khan mentioned it in his testimony.

And the Inquest was covering all circumstances surrounding her death, including the so-called motives of the conspiracy theories, so whether she was pregnant at the time of her death was considered.

With evidence of the pills, testimony from Hasnat abut her attitude to contraception (diligent) and from her holiday friends that she was menstruating (withdrawal bleed) around a fortnight before her death, plus no detectable pregnancy at post mortem examination, it's pretty clear that she was not pregnant.
(Or, perhaps, just possible she was in such early stages even she could not possibly have been aware of it)

BMW6 · 29/01/2025 19:42

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 19:09

People go on about the drunk driver and leave out that a car hit the Mercedes she was in.

Jeez you and I already covered this upthread concisely!!

You even linked an article which supported my contention that the Fiat played a minor role in the accident, because you hadn't throughly read the article!

Yet here you pop up again as if this is a New Thought!

That's dishonest of you.

BMW6 · 29/01/2025 19:47

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 15:30

You say that as if it has been confirmed and was all above board.
No one official spoke to this driver until 22 years later.

https://7news.com.au/the-morning-show/le-van-thanh-the-driver-who-clipped-princess-dianas-car-before-fatal-crash-speaks-out-c-460233

Here's the article you posted in case you've forgotten............

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 19:48

BMW6 · 29/01/2025 19:42

Jeez you and I already covered this upthread concisely!!

You even linked an article which supported my contention that the Fiat played a minor role in the accident, because you hadn't throughly read the article!

Yet here you pop up again as if this is a New Thought!

That's dishonest of you.

You said that it played a minor role. Your interpretation.

BMW6 · 29/01/2025 19:50

And the interpretation of the eyewitness, the French Police and the writers of the article that YOU bloody well linked on here!!!!!!

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 19:50

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 15:44

@BMW6

I have posted the relevant quotes from the article below. If you believe the driver, then it was the collision that caused Diana's death/
As I said I do not think Diana was murdered. I do think the truth was never publicly revealed.

"That eyewitness was Le Van Thanh, who says he's been ordered to stay silent until now - and has always refused to be interviewed by Lord Stephens, who headed up Operation Paget - the inquest into Diana and Dodi's death."

"On the night in question, Le Van Thanh left work early and, according to witnesses, was in the tunnel. That was verifiable. He emerged from a merging lane into a collision with Princess Diana's Mercedes, which sent the Mercedes careering into the 13th pylon inside that Paris tunnel."

""Le Van Thanh has not spoken for 22 years. And his silence is deafening. Why has he not spoken to authorities?" Howard said.
"Former Victorian homicide detective Colin McLaren and I travelled to Paris about six weeks ago and spoke to Le Van Thanh for the very first time, and we asked him that question - and he said law enforcement authorities told him not to speak about what took place that night."

""While he did speak to French authorities, he never spoke to Operation Paget. Lord Stevens, who oversaw the inquiry, asked Le Van Thanh twice to answer questions, and he won't."

""Colin and I have come to the determination that the French government doesn't want a French national held accountable for the death of the People's Princess," Howard said."

This is what I shared. Your interpretation was the car hitting the Mercedes had a minor impact.

BMW6 · 29/01/2025 19:58

Yes. The eye witnesses support it.

It was the bad driving of Henri Paul that caused the Merc to crash into pillar 13. He over compensated his steering following the scrape with the Fiat (which only lost a tail light remember - and this is a Fiat "hitting" a Mercedes which is bullet proofed) going at excessive speed.

Because he was not a professional chauffeur and he had been drinking.

daleylama · 29/01/2025 19:59

CranfordScones · 28/01/2025 16:04

Believe whatever you want. Anyone who cares about the evidence should read Unnatural Causes by Dr Richard Shepherd (forensic pathologist) who was directly involved in the case.

And he says , "tragic accident'". Death from torn vein. A one in a million Injury.

JoyousGreyOrca · 29/01/2025 20:00

Even the inquest who never spoke to the driver of the car that hit the Mercedes said it was a contributory factor.
If the car had never been hit, there may never have been an accident

DisabledDemon · 29/01/2025 20:01

HermioneWeasley · 28/01/2025 15:47

How did her assassins engineer her choosing not to wear her seatbelt?

Exactly. Had she worn a seatbelt, she likely would have survived. It is alluring to believe in mysterious forces but I don't think they were at work here.

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