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To think my relationship could potentially be manipulative/controlling?

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Ahsoka2001 · 28/01/2025 00:49

I was unsure whether to post this here as I feared I might get some harsh comments, but I'm at the point where I'm so overwhelmed I just need to get it all in writing and out for someone to read. Please be kind in the comments - I already know I'm an idiot.

To preface, I'm a man, 23 years old. My girlfriend is 21.

I've been with her for 15 months. Things were great for the first few months -- that was, until I found out the full extent of her beliefs. For context, we're both Christian, but she comes from a much more fundamentalist branch of the Church which thinks that the Bible describes the past literally. She believes that God made the world in 7 literal days around 6,000 years ago, evolution is a lie, and homosexuality is a sin. Not only that - she's said that the man she'll eventually marry must share all these beliefs. She's sort of implicitly given me an ultimatum, that unless I adopt these ideas I can't be the one for her. She didn't make this clear until around 5 months into dating.

I've talked with her so many times about it and there's simply zero room for compromise or middle ground. I tried explaining that the 7 days could represent millions of years, etc but she has never budged - I have to believe every detail exactly as she does. She's begun to pray for God to "make me into a Godly gentleman for her" (this is in front of me while I'm sitting next to her).

Another big issue is what I believe might be controlling behavior. I'm a big film buff, and she's always saying that certain movies with sex, nudity or homosexual themes bother her. Last Summer I wanted to go to the cinema to watch the movie "Carol" (on my own). When I got into town she texted me saying, "The movie kinda bothers me" and then explained that we shouldn't watch films that portray homosexuality in a positive light so we can "keep a pure mind". She'd known for days I wanted to see this movie and gave no indication that she'd have an issue so this caught me very off-guard and I was in a bit of a tight spot. Not wanting to cause conflict, I turned round and went back home. I know, I'm stupid.

There are certain other things I've done that have bothered her, which I believe are VERY normal things that millions of people do. For example, I went to Notting Hill Carnival with two uni friends last summer. It wasn't till weeks later my girlfriend tells me it really bothered her cause "that's a place single people go to to look at girls in skimpy clothing" and "that's the kinda event we should've gone to together if we were gonna get married." She was also really bothered when I briefly met a Hollywood actress at the London Film Festival last year (I asked her a question at her Q+A event). My girlfriend said, "I always put all my energy into you so it bothered me when you used some of your energy on another woman" (??). I still have no idea what she meant. She's (apparently) OK with me having female friends but not OK with me having a 30-second conversation with a Hollywood actress who's twice my age and married with kids? I was made to feel really guilty for doing something...totally normal? Right?

I know you're probably reading this thinking, "Why are you in a relationship with this person?" and that I'm an idiot. Maybe you're right. I was just so smitten early on, it made it harder to consider breaking it off once I was "in deep" learning about the full extent of her beliefs. It doesn't help that this is the first time a girl was ever interested in me beyond friendship.

Sorry for the vent. I just really wanted to talk to someone about this relationship. I'm feeling very overwhelmed with it right now.

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ItGhoul · 28/01/2025 10:30

Dramatic · 28/01/2025 07:45

It's not controlling or abusive, you're just incompatible. She is absolutely deluded by the extreme religious stuff. None of it will change so it's best to just end it now.

She was also really bothered when I briefly met a Hollywood actress at the London Film Festival last year (I asked her a question at her Q+A event). My girlfriend said, "I always put all my energy into you so it bothered me when you used some of your energy on another woman" (??)

That is absolutely controlling/abusive behaviour, and it has nothing to do with religion.

Honestly, the religion is a red herring here. It doesn't matter what her motive is. She is attempting to mould a partner into a different person to suit her needs. That is controlling whether it's motivated by religion or jealousy or anything else.

Ahsoka2001 · 28/01/2025 10:32

Also I can’t find the PP who asked but yes it is a sexless relationship.

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Ahsoka2001 · 28/01/2025 10:45

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 28/01/2025 07:27

You’ve fallen for someone who is a fundamentalist Christian and you’re not. A long term relationship can’t possibly work. I don’t want to blame her by calling her controlling but she has a different and very firm set of values.
I’m surprised if she agreed to sex outside marriage- is this a platonic relationship?

Ahh, here it is. No, we’ve never had sex.

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Ahsoka2001 · 28/01/2025 10:52

CheekyHobson · 28/01/2025 04:54

In all honesty I think the OP’s lack of boundaries is equally at play here. Since 5 months in he has known that she won’t marry someone who has different beliefs to her, she has made it completely clear. As much as he has tried to get her to change HER beliefs to accommodate him, she has declined (as is her right).

He could have decided to say “Actually this is a movie I want to see so while I’m sorry it bothers you, I am going to see it.” That might have caused a conflict but it would have been an informative one, as it might have made it more apparent that they are fundamentally unsuited to each other.

She has no financial or physical hold over him, they don’t have kids, don’t live together. Yes, he cares for her (as she presumably does him as she has not ended the relationship) but at the end of the day, if the only reason he doesn’t stand up for himself is that he doesn’t want the relationship to end, he is not really being controlled. He has agency, he just doesn’t want to accept that exercising it will bring to light irreconcilable differences.

Sorry, but I haven’t tried to change her beliefs. She declined being happy with me believing a middle ground (e.g, the 7 days represent millions of years) and said I have to believe every detail as she does with no differences.

I’ve never sat down with her and explained why she should believe X Y and Z.

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MrsJHernandez · 28/01/2025 11:45

joysexreno · 28/01/2025 07:30

This is incredibly unhelpful and misogynistic

It was an answer to OPs question to a PP. Get off your high horse.

pinkyredrose · 28/01/2025 11:58

She's not right for you.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 28/01/2025 12:30

Please don't marry her. There are lots of lovely Christian young women praying to meet a kind modern minded Christian man you do not need to settle for this.
She won't have to much trouble finding someone who has her very strict views too especially if she flies off to America

Ahsoka2001 · 28/01/2025 15:25

Thanks for your help and support everyone :) I'm going to end the relationship because there's simply no way it can work long-term as so many of you pointed out. It's not fair for either of us for me to prolong it any longer.

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MoonWoman69 · 28/01/2025 16:59

Good luck. I and most of us here, by the look of it, agree this is the right decision for you and your future happiness 🍀

TheStigarette · 28/01/2025 18:00

Good luck @Ahsoka2001 . You sound like you just needed confirmation of what you already knew you needed to do.

Wishing you the best in finding someone whose world view aligns with your own or someone accepting of a different perspective. They will be out there and delighted to meet someone just like you.

Elsvieta · 28/01/2025 21:50

Regardless of whether this is abusive, it sounds like you want to end it. You don't need to justify that; you don't need confirmation that she's controlling or whatever as a valid reason. You just need to decide that this isn't right for you. And she's basically told you that she needs someone who shares her views. Tell her she's right, and let her go.

MH25 · 21/02/2025 20:13

DowntheDrainpipe · 28/01/2025 07:03

The issue isn’t that she believes what she does (which she is entitled to do, and I think you’re in dodgy territory if you are taking the stance that your views are objectively correct and she is in the wrong - neither of you are), the issue is that you don’t share fundamental values. Stop trying to change her, and stop resenting that she’s expressing her opinion and beliefs. Just as she should accept that you have your own separate opinions and beliefs that won’t be changing. You’re not compatible. You need to leave.

i know i'm very late for this thread but...what ?? you don't think it's objectively correct that the world is older than 6000 years and being gay is ok ?

DowntheDrainpipe · 21/02/2025 20:35

MH25 · 21/02/2025 20:13

i know i'm very late for this thread but...what ?? you don't think it's objectively correct that the world is older than 6000 years and being gay is ok ?

Are you stupid? It’s got absolutely nothing to do with what I think about the subject that was up for discussion.

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