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He told his mom details on our financial set up!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 13:11

Heads up: this is a very long post with lots of background info.

I am a 25 year old woman old engaged to my fiancé who is a 29 year old man. We have been dating since I was 19 and he was 24. When I say we are madly in love with each other we are madly in love with each other. We are each others first relationships. We mesh together perfectly. We had a bit of a long engagement not due to any issues at all in our relationship just because I was in college and my fiance was still getting figured out in his career.

We both met when we both didn’t have a lot of money I was living at home with my parents and he was living with an older man that used to be his neighbor who was renting out a small spare bedroom. Since then we grown into our careers and adults lives together. He moved and we did long distance for 16 months until I got everything together and was ready to move together into our apartment and then we got a house. once we moved into the house together we decided to start sharing finances and viewing things as “our” money instead of “his” or “her” money. We have a joint account where we would put all the money in that goes towards necessities such as bills and home repairs and groceries and what not. Then based on percentages we would take out our respective amounts of the joint account for the necessities. We then have our own separate account which our “fun money” goes in and then another joint account of a budgeted amount that our savings goes in that we don’t touch.

Then this way we have the same amount left over for fun things such as he has his truck hobby with his pick up truck that he owns that he likes to tinker with and I get a pedicure and my hair colored now and again or dinner out with friends stuff like that. This is the obvious way to do it to me bc obviously we operate as a team and engaged and not roommates so we want to make sure each other has the same amount to “toy around with” so to speak. We weren’t nickel and diming each other. He makes a little over 2 times what I make not that I don’t work just as hard it’s just our chosen careers which we are both very passionate about happen to pay that amount.

We would base what we contribute financially based on percentage so we still have the same money left over and I wouldn’t be stuck with nothing or very little while he has a lot more left over. To us that’s what being a team and getting married means. He pays the mortgage and I pay utilities such as electric, water, internet, toilet trees, I pay for our home delivery meal service that comes for dinners 5 nights a week. I also am responsible for cleaning the house and if there are home repair issues or something needs to be renovated like for example our master bathroom recently got redone I handle all that. Finding the contractors to come out and manning the job and picking out what we want.

We never argue about money and we are both very happy with this financial set up and we both feel it’s very fair and equal. Multiple people have commented on how it’s beautiful we are so in love and have built our lives up together after meeting each other when we both basically had nothing or very little to our name and they can’t wait for us to be married.

The one thing we disagree about is his mother. I feel my fiancé involves her very heavily in his/our life. She lives 13 hours away and my fiancé is the oldest and she has 2 younger sons. She has a big family lots of friends and isn’t lonely by any stretch yet my fiance tells her at any given time the exact home repairs we are doing, if something goes wrong with our home, if we happen to have less money than expected. They talk everyday or just about and I feel like it’s a bit overbearing and strange given she isn’t lonely. I don’t meet that many adults who want their parents that heavily involved in their personal lives. I think I would cry and feel suffocated if my mom was that involved in the knowing of everything that happens. Well the icing on top of the cake for me was he told his mom our exact financial arrangement/set up. He told her how we have our accounts set up, who contributes what, who pays what. The only thing he didn’t tell her was how much we have in those accounts.

i cried when he told me this because I said finances and inlaws/family don’t mix. I said I understand you are close to your mom and fine even though I find it annoying that she has to know every detail of our lives telling her our exact financial set up is not ok. I said I’m beginning to feel like his mom is a third person in our relationship and there is no reason she needs to be privy to our finances and how we have it set up. I said a couple’s finances is between them and them alone and a possible financial advisor who is a professional and not a biased party like a parent and of course our bank. Unless his mom is giving us money which we are independent adults on our own two feet so she isn’t. So absolutely no reason she needs knowledge on our banking info. To me that hooks be common sense. My fiancé and I have such a solid and close relationship I also underneath the anger feel very hurt and betrayed that without me there or even checking with me he just told his mom all our financial info not even thinking about my feelings. For her to know about such private information I feel “exposed” not in the physical sense but the mental sense.

I said when we get married I don’t want to feel like your mom is the third person in our marriage. He did apologize and explain he told her because she was just talking about finances in general and it flowed with the conversation but I told him I was still upset and just needed some alone time. Not alone time to rethink the relationship obviously because every relationship has issues once in a great while but just time to calm down.

Im sure we can all agree that given his mom that much access into our financial set up isn’t a good idea but AIBU to be this upset and worked up over it? I just feel there needs to be boundaries especially as an adult in a serious relationship. And maybe when you’re a teenager telling your parents every little thing is fine but I don’t want his mom living in our pocket.

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ThatsWhatImTalkinAbout · 23/01/2025 18:52

Bleachbum · 23/01/2025 17:55

OP, why aren’t you responding to any of the PP’s asking what your fiancé has to say about his DM excluding you generally?

If I opened a Christmas card from my in-laws and it was just made out to my DH, both me and my DH would be really shocked and he would be having words, no doubt. If my in-laws actually said that I wasn’t welcome on a family holiday then I think my DH would hit the roof.

Why are you focusing on this finance chat and falling out with your fiancé over that when there are much bigger issues that need raising?

This has been on my mind.
Why is the fiance not addressing the fact his mother refuses to acknowledge her DILs existence?
I could not marry someone who allows this behaviour to go unnoticed. I mean, what’s the wedding day going to look like? Is MIL going to be there when she apparently blanks the DIL but talks to her son every day? Have both ILs parents on all sides met before?

Thisisgivingmereflux · 23/01/2025 18:57

You sound really annoyed that his mother now knows how much you contribute. That is the crux of it really. You didn't WANT her knowing that. I guarantee if you were both contributing half each you would have no issue. You feel she will see you as inadequate because you FEEL inadequate. This is all down to you and how you want to be perceived and you feel judged even though nobody has judged you. It's all your own bullshit. Controlling, paranoid and obsessive. Grow up.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 18:59

IkeaMeatballGravy · 23/01/2025 17:15

She's probably terrified of you and I can understand why! It sounds like you are 'one of those' DIL looking for any old excuse to cut contact.

Does your mother text your husband or treat him equally? Why would you expect her to treat you as equal to her own child?

You definitely do not sound mature enough to marry. Wait a little bit longer and calm down a bit.

Terrified of me? Why? As if she knows how our relationship operates. I never said to cut contact now you’re putting words in my mouth. I didn’t want one thing discussed one thing. I expressed annoyance on here that he calls his mother everyday but that’s me talking on here I never asked him to lessen contact with her .

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gracietruman · 23/01/2025 19:00

This is all far too high maintenance. Relax and enjoy your life instead of making unimportant things an enormous problem.

Namechangean · 23/01/2025 19:09

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:36

Talking everyday and divulging all of their personal finances and life information on a silver platter isn’t enmeshed? Then what is? And I don’t want my man to be best friends with his mother. Yes I know it’s crazy that I want my soon to be husband to put me before his mother and be my best friend.

But you’re marrying him, you know who he is. Stop trying to change him, so what if he talks to her everyday. You have a different family set up, stop trying to enforce your way of doing things on him.

Also his mum doesn’t have the right to know things but your DP has the right to discuss what he wants with her. If you tell him your uncomfortable and he accepts that then great, but ultimately he needs to make those decisions not you, because where do you draw the line with what you allow him to talk about. It doesn’t matter if it involves you or not

WtP · 23/01/2025 19:12

1 You have said the matter has been discussed & he's agreed not to discuss it in future. - so that's sorted.

2 Your prospective M-i-L possibly doesn’t see you as an equal in this partnership? This you need to work on.

3 You say your a teacher? Most of your posts are word soup, so I feel sorry for your students.

4 We have at least got a laugh about Toilet Trees from this thread 😂

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:13

Ok so I actually just had a sit down talk with my fiancé and I apologized for overreacting over a boundary I set in my mind but never talked it over with him. I told him that I got triggered bc his mom hasn’t exactly welcomed me into the family with open arms and that she has done some really hurtful and exclusionary things in the past yet knowing through her actions she doesn’t like me he still chose to let her into our personal financial life. But I should have mentioned to him earlier on that I want our finances to stay between us or a financial advisor. I did tell him I want to get to the crux of the purpose of telling his mom and what he hoped to gain knowing she doesn’t like me as I think that detail is important. I said you know she doesn’t like me so by telling her that info you gave her ammo to use if she wasn’t happy with the set up. I said it felt almost like you were seeking her approval when the only people whose opinion matters in this particular circumstance is mine and his bc it affects just us. He did say it truly just came up as his mom mentioned that his stepfather bought her some nice jewelry randomly and she was hoping he didn’t spend too much of his money and she went into how their financial set up was and he felt obligated to tell her ours. I said I was just asking bc I wasn’t sure if it was a subconscious way of “checking in” to see if it was fair and told him I’m more than happy to re examine our set up and tweak some things around if need be at anytime. He said he appreciated that but he feels it’s completely fair and he is 100% happy with our arrangement. I then mentioned in the future we need to seek our unbiased parties such as a financial advisor who would look out for both our best interests if we need clarification and he thought that was a great idea.

I also told him pre marital counseling would be a good idea just so we can discuss boundaries ahead of time so we don’t run into an issue like this again since we will be married and it’s important we put our relationship first. That way another unbiased party a premarital counselor can assess if I’m being overly controlling or if there needs to he more boundaries bc they are specialized in that area and it may help. He agreed. I’m looking up premarital counselors in the area.

He apologized over and over and said when I explained it to him like that he realized that he shouldn’t have told his mom our personal financial set up and he will do better about not sharing so many details of our lives he has just been used to being close to his mother and it’s how he always operated. I said I’m not saying don’t be close to your mother it’s great that you are just when it comes to personal things that affect us both to keep me in the loop.

I feel our conversation went very well. I’m hopeful for the future!!

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Katie323 · 23/01/2025 19:13

I swear im dreading my son growing up and maybe one day getting married, always issues with the MILs and you are not even married yet. He can tell his mother what he likes just like I would tell my mother what i want to. My partner calls his mother everyday 🤣 crazy a man having a great relationship with his mother. As it should be!

Namechangean · 23/01/2025 19:13

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 14:50

Why? He is enmeshed with his mother.

Funny, at the beginning you spoke about how in love you are and how perfect things are, now you’re putting him down and keep referring to him being enmeshed with his mum. He is close to her but doesn’t sound like she’s interfering in anyway? You said yourself she doesn’t contact you, so why are you so annoyed that he talks to her?

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:14

WtP · 23/01/2025 19:12

1 You have said the matter has been discussed & he's agreed not to discuss it in future. - so that's sorted.

2 Your prospective M-i-L possibly doesn’t see you as an equal in this partnership? This you need to work on.

3 You say your a teacher? Most of your posts are word soup, so I feel sorry for your students.

4 We have at least got a laugh about Toilet Trees from this thread 😂

#3 was unnecessary to insult my teaching skills when it has nothing to do with the topic on hand. I’m a preschool teacher so your snide remark was irrelevant anyways.

mods: I thought bullying wasn’t allowed on here.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:15

Namechangean · 23/01/2025 19:09

But you’re marrying him, you know who he is. Stop trying to change him, so what if he talks to her everyday. You have a different family set up, stop trying to enforce your way of doing things on him.

Also his mum doesn’t have the right to know things but your DP has the right to discuss what he wants with her. If you tell him your uncomfortable and he accepts that then great, but ultimately he needs to make those decisions not you, because where do you draw the line with what you allow him to talk about. It doesn’t matter if it involves you or not

It does matter if it involves me bc then it’s my business going out there as well.

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:16

myrtleWilson · 23/01/2025 18:38

@Completelyjo If she’s advertising Home Chef and toilet trees, am not sure many will be signing up for HC

Why would you say that? Home chef is good!

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ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:17

Katie323 · 23/01/2025 19:13

I swear im dreading my son growing up and maybe one day getting married, always issues with the MILs and you are not even married yet. He can tell his mother what he likes just like I would tell my mother what i want to. My partner calls his mother everyday 🤣 crazy a man having a great relationship with his mother. As it should be!

Ever think it’s the MILs that are the issues. Acknowledge your DIL and don’t be a dick to her and include her and you won’t have a problem

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2025willbemytime · 23/01/2025 19:17

If you really feel you're being bullied then you need to report.

There are no "mods" and certainly not ones that read every post 😂

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:19

NotVeryFunny · 23/01/2025 18:41

You are massively overreacting. And your partner is still only mid twenties. I was running lots of things past my mum still at that age while I was still learning and getting to grips with things. My DS does the same at a similar age.

You sound quite controlling tbh trying to dictate what your partner talks about and to whom. He is allowed to get support from other people close to him if he wants/needs. Why are you trying to create distance in between his relationship with his mother? I would never dictate to my husband what he is allowed to discuss with his parents (apart from very intimate personal things that are to do with me alone which I might ask him to keep private, finances doesn't get anywhere in this scale!), it's not ok to get in between the close relationships that your partner has with others, be that parents, close friends or other close family members.

Because finances are private they involve me as well. Why does a man nearly 30 still need to get support from his mother? What is she giving him that I’m not?

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2025willbemytime · 23/01/2025 19:20

FGS people get different support from different people all the time. It's normal. It's healthy. It's okay.

justasking111 · 23/01/2025 19:21

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:19

Because finances are private they involve me as well. Why does a man nearly 30 still need to get support from his mother? What is she giving him that I’m not?

Wisdom.

Katie323 · 23/01/2025 19:22

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:17

Ever think it’s the MILs that are the issues. Acknowledge your DIL and don’t be a dick to her and include her and you won’t have a problem

Sure you are not the problem? No its always the women that have issues with MIL it is hardly never the man with his MIL. I get some are the complaining about talking to his mother everyday and what he talks about, you sound controlling maybe she has picked up on this? You seem to have the problem.

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 19:28

I mean my husband has a whole life with his parents before he met me. Now his dad is dead, he’s the only person his mom can reminisce with. So she can offer him some shared memories I can’t.
My parents can offer me a kind of unconditional love that no one else can!

I mean you keep saying your parents see you guys as a team but unless your parents are different from 99% of the population, their love for you will be entirely different to their love/fondness for him. This is NORMAL.

My parents had a life experience/perspective/insight my husband didn’t. Including on marriage. His mother has an insight into being an immigrant because she was. That’s been very valuable to me as a DIL. This my husband cannot offer me because this country is/was always his home. He didn’t move thousands of miles away. Other people can always provide perspective and support.

It is unhealthy to rely on a single source of support. Or to rank your closest family in a hierarchy.

Namechangean · 23/01/2025 19:30

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:15

It does matter if it involves me bc then it’s my business going out there as well.

But it’s his business. You can only control your own actions. If he decides to confide in his mum even if you’ve said no, then you decide if you want to be in a relationship where you have different expectations. What you can’t do his control him. He’s agreed not to talk about it and that’s good, we should respect our partners boundaries but if you start telling him he’s not allowed to talk about your renovations or your holidays or anything else that involves you, then no one would think it’s reasonable for you to make those demands. He gets to decide his own relationship with his mum. Not you.

Boundaries are about setting limits on what we will accept, they are not a way to force other people change their behaviour, it’s very easy to cross the line to controlling when you have this attitude.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:30

In regards to him speaking up when his mother left me out. She planned a vacation with her, her husband, my fiance, and his brothers (we were engaged at the time and living together so rude I wasn’t invited) and when he said I will have to check our schedules she said she was only doing it the five of them and he did say then if I’m not welcome as I should be family at this point in our relationship then he isnt going bc her partner is invited but his partner isnt. In regards to the Christmas card she said she didn’t address it to me as well bc she wanted to check in there to be for just him and he kindly explained mom we share a home and life together and money just the same it would feel weird not to share with my future wife please don’t leave her out again or I can’t accept your Christmas gift and she got upset and said she is your partner but I’m your mother and you might regret doing this in the future. He said he won’t regret standing up for me just as she would do the same for her partner. She said blood is thicker than water. Dumb saying considering her partner isn’t blood. I’m glad my fiancé stood up for me in both cases

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Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 19:31

Imagine feeling the need to “apologise over and over” after your SO was crying and storming off because you had a conversation with your own mother.
🚩

Katie323 · 23/01/2025 19:33

Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 19:31

Imagine feeling the need to “apologise over and over” after your SO was crying and storming off because you had a conversation with your own mother.
🚩

Id be running as fast as I could, they are not even married yet. Itll only get worse for him 🫣 wait till kids get involved.

ThisQuickJadeWasp · 23/01/2025 19:33

MangshorJhol · 23/01/2025 19:28

I mean my husband has a whole life with his parents before he met me. Now his dad is dead, he’s the only person his mom can reminisce with. So she can offer him some shared memories I can’t.
My parents can offer me a kind of unconditional love that no one else can!

I mean you keep saying your parents see you guys as a team but unless your parents are different from 99% of the population, their love for you will be entirely different to their love/fondness for him. This is NORMAL.

My parents had a life experience/perspective/insight my husband didn’t. Including on marriage. His mother has an insight into being an immigrant because she was. That’s been very valuable to me as a DIL. This my husband cannot offer me because this country is/was always his home. He didn’t move thousands of miles away. Other people can always provide perspective and support.

It is unhealthy to rely on a single source of support. Or to rank your closest family in a hierarchy.

Edited

That is so true his mom has wisdom and memories with him that I don’t

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Completelyjo · 23/01/2025 19:34

I love how this entire conversation was started and wrapped up in a mere 14 minutes between posts though. Almost as efficient as home chef.

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