The KKK is feeling pretty empowered

[Princessconsuelabananahammock9]

This is what happens when a man like Donald Trump gets in power.

These are the people who feel empowered.

While MN celebrates the " only two genders ", people of colour in Kentucky are scared.

I've seen threads on here wishing the UK had Trump. Is this really what you want?

Is this really the type of people you want in power?

Those that voted for Trump over trans issues, what about shit like this? Or women dying from lack of abortion access? Or climate change? Or the casual revisiting of gay marriage rights?

According to GLAAD all resources referencing LGBTQ and HIV have been removed from the White House website. Gay, lesbian, no results come up in the search.

" Pages removed include WhiteHouse.gov’s equity report (no longer accessible), a fact sheet with information on expanding access to HIV prevention and treatment (no longer accessible), and information about LGBTQ Pride Month (no longer accessible). Agency page removals include Department of State’s LGBTQ rights (no longer accessible), and Department of Labor’s LGBTQ workers page (no longer accessible). "

glaad.org/releases/breaking-trump-administration-removes-lgbtq-and-hiv-resources-from-white-house-and-other-government-websites/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/22/kkk-immigrants-flyers-kentucky

This is scary shit. I don't get how any one envies?

@Princessconsuelabananahammock9 , you obviously feel very passionate about Trump, but your passion does not change the hard facts.

Trump would never have been elected had the hard-left Democrats not handed it to him on a plate. Elections are sometimes won, sometimes lost. This election was lost. It was lost because the electorate increasingly perceived the Democrats as only being interested in 'minorities' didn't give a flying fuck about them, saw their living standards tumble and didn't see why they should vote in a bunch of people who looked down their noses at them.

If you want someone to blame for Trump being elected - blame the Democrats. They threw the election away with both hands.

I would like to see those statistics. Do you have a link please?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5111428/

How on earth does removing rights to abortion and even necessary medical procedures "help women"?

Lack of safe legal abortion is a disaster for women. It is also neither a new law, not a law that Trump can make or unmake. The legal situation re abortion in the US was the same under Biden as it is under Trump, it's a state level decision there and not for the president to decide.

How does a man getting into power who has been proven untouchable by the law despite him clearly being guilty of numerous crimes "help women"?

Absolutely nothing, did someone post that Trump is great for women? I haven't seen that. I've seen women saying that this EO, which was written by a feminist and which advances women's rights after they were blithely thrown away under the previous administration, is a good thing. I don't think many UK women are fans of Trump as a person, are they? I think he's a dick.

How do policies including no maternity leave, no healthcare and next to zero paid holidays "help women"??

They don't. Again, the policies on mat leave, healthcare and annual leave in the US are the same now are they were under Biden. They haven't been changed by Trump, they're the same.

How does a dedication to centuries old, backwards thinking about "rights to bare arms" resulting in any nut job being able to get a gun and shoot up schools "help women" ?

Did I miss the Democrats saying they'd remove the right to bear arms? No, because they didn't. To me allowing all and sundry to own guns is insane, but it's US law and neither Democrats nor Republicans have curtailed it or even tried to curtail it. You can say the Democrats meant to, or would have, but actually when they were in power, they didn't. So again, that's not a new Trump thing, it's the same as before.

All this 'Trump has done bad stuff' hyperbole just isn't based in reality.

Prisons have 40% black people and black people represent only 13% of the population.

These are facts.

Trump stacked the court with conservative anti abortion judges so Row v Wade could be overturned.

Pretending he's not part of that is ludicrous. He's bloody proud of that.

How about actual statistics breaking down each ethnic group by prison sentence and deaths by police? You made declarations about this yesterday, you must have seen the statistics to make that kind of declaration.

No one is pretending he was not 'part of that'.

People are pointing out that this was a failure on the behalf of BOTH parties because neither party protected the right to abortion when they have been in power.

There really does seem to be some confusion as to just what Trump has done, and what the Democratic Party did not change but apparently it is all Trump's fault.

FFS. The man is abhorrent but can we at least stick to accusing him of things that he has been responsible for.

And how much of that can be explained by the fact not that those prisoners are black, but that they are poor? Poor people are far more likely to be imprisoned, and black and ethnic minority people are more likely to be poor than white people. So how much of this is not a race thing, but a poverty thing?

Genuinely asking not goady. I believe that the overrepresentation of black and minority ethnic people in prison, can at least partly explained by the fact that those prisoners are poor people in a country with little safety net for those at the bottom economically. It's not wealthy black business owners who went to Harvard who are in prison, is it? 'Black people are imprisoned more than white people' is too simplistic an analysis of what's going on there. I'd like to know what the ethnicity split in the stats is like, once you account for wealth.

Possibly that's a bit nuanced for people who like very simplistic answers to big complex questions though.

I don't understand why you are claiming that it is "not all his fault" @Helleofabore when he was the president who overturned it with his lackeys and are trying to suggest it is also the democrats fault for not making Roe Vs Wade untouchable.

When someone does something bad it is only ever their fault, it is not other people's fault for not stopping them.

While the Democrats are, unfortunately, frequently ineffectual at best, coupled with the fact that Biden was a weak candidate, I don't think they can be blamed for Trumpism.

A lot of people are, frankly, racist and sexist and Trump gives them an outlet for it.

People who voted Trump in 2016 and people who voted for him again in 2020 and 2024 are different. They know what he's about. No excuses.

From some figures that I have seen, when you look at the numbers for female people incarcerated , female people who are categorised as First Nations people have the highest rate of female people incarcerated.

And male people who are categorised as First Nations may be higher in the states where First Nations people have higher rates of residence.

Who has decided that those people's flags are not worthy of being flown?

As some of us have tried to point out, simply stating sound bites may be spreading sound bites but may also not be the full story. Yet, some people have arbitrated that one group gets to have their flag flown over government building when another group who might have just as much 'right' is ignored. That is why government building should not be flying flags that are not those of a nation or region - who decides which flag is more worthy? Who arbitrates the worthiness criteria.

And yet, those who point this out are characterised as hateful and other demonising accusations.

I don't believe one poster on this thread has denied particular groups experience discrimination. What people are trying to say is all too often twisted to become something worthy of personal attack and derision by people who don't seem to want to engage to discuss the actual realities.

At least one poster has claimed that discrimination literally doesn't exist because we had a female prime minister.

And yet, abortion rights remained in a precarious position because it was only ever based on a court case out come. Not based on law.

Past governments of both parties fail to secure robust legislation protecting legal abortions. This precariousness was well known, I believe. Why was it left to a legal case which could be overturned as it was to protect what should have been a legislated right that would require democratic support to change?

Why does any of that absolve Trump of any guilt or share any of it with the democrats?

No one else tried to remove those rights from women, Trump did.

I would suggest that may be a rather bad faith interpretation of that poster's words. I interpreted it as a point of discussion that strict DEI measures of the type that the OP was hyperbolically stating would mean that women would be no longer employed if they were the best person for the job.

Tell you what, why don't you ask them to clarify rather than twist their words? I don't know the poster, but it never hurts to ask for clarification.

And again, I don't believe anyone on this thread has tried to 'absolve' Trump of guilt?

Do you believe that the Democratic Party is should not accept any guilt for not acting to robustly protect abortion rights in the USA?

Sorry about the random 'is' in that post.

Do you believe that the Democratic Party should not accept any guilt for failing to act to robustly protect abortion rights in the USA when they have been in government?

Exactly.

Why does any of that absolve Trump of any guilt or share any of it with the democrats?

No one else tried to remove those rights from women, Trump did.

Just isn't true. The Democrats knew full well that RoevWade could be overturned, and they didn't try to prevent that. They knew that if/when Republicans got back into power they'd go after RoevWade, and they didn't try to strengthen it or protect it when they had the chance.

So Republicans shot down RoevWade, but Democrats knew they'd do it and did nothing when they had the chance. Both are culpable for what they did and didn't do. If you think the Democrats are 'for' women, why didn't they protect women's right to choose when they were in power? Or women's right to fair sport or single sex spaces or anything else that's pro women, for that matter?

Lots of posters seems to be criticising Trump supporters for being thick and falling for simplistic sound bites, while not demonstrating any greater understanding themselves. 'X party good, Y party bad' seems to go in both directions.

Perhaps you can answer the question because I have answered yours.

Why was it left to a legal case which could be overturned as it was to protect what should have been a legislated right that would require democratic support to change?

Thank you for that. I was the poster who pointed out that the longest serving Prime Minister in the UK was female.

In the same and subsequent posts I gave the name of a number of highly succesful female politicians, many of whom were far better at the job than their male counterparts. I also named my own personal favourite politician, based entirely on competence and productivity. She just happened to be female and gay.

So please @ShireMaiden do not make posts taking my words entirely out of context.

No, because they aren't the ones that took them away.

Well, that is your opinion and you are entitled to have it.

I personally believe that the Democratic Party failed to protect abortion rights when they had the opportunity and they didn't make it a priority to do so. They either had poor legal advisors or it was not a priority for them.

These were statements made in response to the statement that white men are overrepresented in all higher up employment roles and the purpose of DEI departments is to protect candidates from bias.

You were denying that women are discriminated against because some women have been successfully chosen.

Just because some members of a minority or oppressed group have overcome discrimination, that does not prove that discrimination is not an issue for those groups.