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In laws over gifting and saying items are new when they're secondhand.. such as a car seat 😬

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WittyNavySheep · 21/01/2025 01:13

I wouldn't be able to get all the nuances of this wonderful situation down without a substational amount of time and wine which is off the cards for a little while longer! So ill go with the most recent issue!

I am 8 months pregnant with what I am guessing will be the only grandchild for my partners family. He has 2 siblings, both of whom have said never to children. I know people change their minds, as i was one of those, but the assumption for the in laws is this might be their only one.

They live close to us but as there is very little in common we saw them as a couple once a month or less.. my partner saw them once a month and me less, admittedly!

Since the pregnancy announcement I have made an effort to text more and see them so they felt welcome and included. They bought over, without checking, what was presented as a brand new baby carrier/car seat, pram and loads of accessories. It was a very generous gift which was overwhelming at the time.. I didn't really know what to say. I would have liked to pick something myself but didn't say anything, accepted the gift graciously and it then took up space we didn't have for the next 6 months!

There have been multiple gift dumps since of items we either already had, didn't want or were something we wanted to buy ourselves such as baby clothes (we mostly filled the cupboards with bulk buys off marketlplace, so going out and picking a new snowsuit would have been a nice thing for us to do) ... to the point my partner had to ask them kindly to stop as we didn't have space... which isn't strictly true but I just needed them to stop !

I was nesting a bit today and finally decided to get the pram and accessories out to put in the car or just get them ready.. that's when I realised it was all secondhand, car seat and all. I was going to buy the pram second hand, so it's not that which is bothering me, but that it was presented very much as they had "done a lot of research and picked something that would work well for us". The car seat... looks er... battered? It's missing all of the internal padding and is effectively useless.

I tried to be tactful and ask by text if maybe the lining was left in the box or who they got it from ... but the replies were non committal and insisted it is as it should be. At no point did MIL admit it was bought or donated second hand and kept insisting it was as it should be. It's a thin piece of fabric and then hard plastic... it's missing a great deal. I politely informed her that we will need to buy a new one and what does she want us to do with hers, at this point she said to chuck it. Onto the pram, I said did she want to take that back as it doesn't work for what we need as i won't even be able to take it on a foot path (let alone trust it to last the length of one as the screws are all rusted, wheels wobbly have zero tread left) - she said she would have it.

I know I could have raised the pram at another time but I'm 2 weeks to go with preeclampsia and just looking at it was irritating me... it isn't close to what we need. I have now got a new car seat and a second hand all terrain pram which I love. I am a bit bothered that she alluded she has her own car seat? I'm very much in the protective momma bear era of the pregnancy and I'm not sure how I feel about that? Added to it, is I'm also concerned it's in the same poor condition as the one she gave us "new". I'm not fussy and most the items we have are second hand but we always planned on getting the car seat and cot new.

I've never in all the years I've known them ever heard them admit to fault. They are always the victim. Their entire family, both sides, don't speak to them but none of this is their fault, apparently. Though based on my experience for the last 8 months is a distinct lack of boundaries. I do know within hours she had told her tale of woe to a family member. I'm preparing myself for further repercussions and really need a sounding board for just how reasonable or unreasonable i was!

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Gymnopedie · 21/01/2025 01:23

The inevitable first question because it will shape the responses - what's DP's take on this, and his parents in general?

You say their entire families don't speak to them, but DP visits them once a month. Is he mired in the FOG (fear, obligation, guilt - google it)?

Needspaceforlego · 21/01/2025 01:27

The car seat should have polystyrene, then the cover, if it doesn't the safest place for it is the tip.
I'd also look for the safety label. R44 or I size

I'm getting a vibe that this is an ancient car seat last used by your DH (or younger sibling) So not secondhand just ancient.

WittyNavySheep · 21/01/2025 01:31

Sorry should have included DPs reaction! He normally handles the in laws and the difficulties with them. He had a emotional blackmail Olympic level call with them a couple days ago where they were upset we weren't up to visitors to talk.about preeclampsia diagnosis the day after we spent 12 hours at hospital and got home at 1am. He said he feels obligated to try with them as one sibling has given up with them and doesn't talk/see them and the other lives far away.

He was on the assumption as me that they were gifted as new and received we found out about the carrier now, to find out on the day we go to the hospital would have been an unnecessary stress.

He says he knows they can be difficult and we will take it in turns dealing with them.

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Guest100 · 21/01/2025 01:38

One of you needs to check the car seat in the in-laws car before letting them drive with the child. Car seats have a use by date. But it’s also ok to not allow them to drive with your child. I didn’t let my mum drive with my kids.
With the gifts just go through everything as soon as they leave. Anything you don’t want get rid of. Otherwise your house will be full of stuff you don’t want. It sounds like they have gone on all the free pages and got items people gave away to save them going to the dump.
Perhaps you and DP now need to say you have everything and anything else needs to live at their house.
From experience grand parents get very excited with a newborn and quickly lose interest. Chat with DP and agree on the boundaries for all the family and stick with it.
If you think they will push to come over all the time the second the baby is born, remember you don’t have to tell them the second the child is here. Unless you will be in hospital for a week don’t tell them until the day after you come home from hospital.
Congratulations on this exciting time in your life.

WittyNavySheep · 21/01/2025 01:39

Thank you for suggestion of safety label... there is no polystyrene, just the thin fabric and plastic. From what I can tell it's about 6 years old, which the youngest sibling is 29 so this is definitely second hand and is supposed to go with the pram as a set... I'd wager it was bought from marketplace and based on the dents - had a hard life.

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Poppyseeds79 · 21/01/2025 01:42

So she's said to chuck it, and you've bought a new one? Issue is now dealt with then. Just stick to the once a month visits once baby is here, and cut it to less than that if they continue being difficult. Job done.

Needspaceforlego · 21/01/2025 01:44

I think your best way to deal with it is to bin the car seat. Buy a new one. I'm curious on the safety label how old actually is it?

Have a good look at the pram, does it need a good clean or is it needing replacing too?

Clothes bundles, sort into sizes, then starting with the smallest size, sort into like or not, wash the stuff you like, charity bag the stuff you don't.

Don't feel obliged to keep everything. Snowsuit are cute but a waste of money. Blankets are much easier to deal with in a pram. Easier to take a layer on / off going in and out of shops.
But that doesn't mean you can't buy a things you like yourself

AliceMcK · 21/01/2025 01:53

Can you sell car seats on market place, I remember when I was getting rid of mine I wasn’t allowed to sell or donate anywhere. I felt terrible as one was only 18 months old, but to the tip it went.

Given your lack of contact I’m surprised they think they are going to be taking baby out at all.

I think you need to lay down the law straight away on contact. And non of this taking it turns dealing with them, they are DHs parents his problem, you have enough with preeclampsia and birth to deal with.

p.s I’m surprised you haven’t been taken in, I was induced the day after my preeclampsia diagnosis, I thought the faster baby is born the better.

Needspaceforlego · 21/01/2025 02:00

@AliceMcK yes you can sell them on Marketplace, Ebay, Gumtree, any sortof private sale.
Places that can't sell them are charity shops or any sort of organisation and that's purely an insurance thing they are scared of being liable in any way for a child in an accident

WittyNavySheep · 21/01/2025 02:05

It was sold as a pram set to us.. so guessing that's how it was pitched online!

I agree... I was initially hoping they would have some part in the baby's life but I should have maybe envisioned more what that would be like..? I wasn't expecting the assumption they could just take the baby... just no.

Pre eclampsia symptoms came on really quick last week but they're managing the BP with blood pressure tabs and trying to keep me cooking a little longer! Scan tomorrow and been seeing the midwife/trips to hospital triage almost every other day for the last week. Fingers crossed I make it to 37 weeks! Either everyone is giving birth around now or hospitals are overrun.. they didn't have a bed for me to be monitored after I started taking BP pills, made me stay an hour to check it was going down and. I had to go to midwife instead next day to check they were working. Poor midwifes in hosp looked.. exhausted :( 3 visits in a week to triage and I was there on average 8 hours each.

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Sweetiedarling2024 · 21/01/2025 02:11

Used car seats are unsafe. It’s why charity shops won’t take them. Somehow drop this into conversation so she knows. Some people don’t.

Don’t worry about the additional clothes situation. Of course you can still buy extras. Anything you don’t want, donate to charity.

Gymnopedie · 21/01/2025 02:12

He says he knows they can be difficult and we will take it in turns dealing with them.

Nope, nope and thrice nope.

He deals with them. And that means standing up to them to protect you. You are and will continue to be a mass of hormones, being a first time mum, feeding and everything else that goes with the changes a tiny human brings. he doesn't get to delegate half the work to you on top.

In an earlier post I mentioned FOG. I do recommend that you read about it, that he feels he still owes them something, because everyone else has given up, speaks volumes about his relationship with them.

AliceMcK · 21/01/2025 02:12

WittyNavySheep · 21/01/2025 02:05

It was sold as a pram set to us.. so guessing that's how it was pitched online!

I agree... I was initially hoping they would have some part in the baby's life but I should have maybe envisioned more what that would be like..? I wasn't expecting the assumption they could just take the baby... just no.

Pre eclampsia symptoms came on really quick last week but they're managing the BP with blood pressure tabs and trying to keep me cooking a little longer! Scan tomorrow and been seeing the midwife/trips to hospital triage almost every other day for the last week. Fingers crossed I make it to 37 weeks! Either everyone is giving birth around now or hospitals are overrun.. they didn't have a bed for me to be monitored after I started taking BP pills, made me stay an hour to check it was going down and. I had to go to midwife instead next day to check they were working. Poor midwifes in hosp looked.. exhausted :( 3 visits in a week to triage and I was there on average 8 hours each.

Sorry I took “with 2 weeks to go” as you already being 38 weeks. Last time I was taken in for an induction I led around for 2 days because it was so busy, get as many zzzzs in as you can if you have to wait around. And definitely put the in-laws firmly in DHs area to deal with. Good luck

Agapornis · 21/01/2025 02:17

Just bin all the clothes you don't like. For least hassle, put it in a clothes bin rather than charity shop if you have one near you. My council also accept it with recycling in a separate bag, so if you're luck you wouldn't need to walk further than your own bin.

No way would I waste any precious time on washing etc.

WittyNavySheep · 21/01/2025 02:19

Sorry, no, that's on me!! In my head I have assumed I have 2 weeks left, as @mental preparation I'm taking it as fact.. as it isn't off the table 😬 nor sure what I prefer more, earlier than expected or on time and living with the symptoms and being the size of a whale with nothing to do for the duration 🤣 I'm 36 weeks with c section currently scheduled the week 39 but been told this date can move and I'm.being monitored for now.

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sleepandcoffee · 21/01/2025 02:21

These sound abit of a nightmare , be prepared to hold serious boundaries when baby is born and I would
Absolutely suggest you don't tell them your c section date unless you want to be bombarded !

Gumbuyahpark · 21/01/2025 02:23

One sibling has already given up on them? This means that you know what they are like. Stop reaching out, dial your involvement way back and just be very clear on your boundaries to DH and stand by them - he can manage his parents and he can deal with the fallout. By saying that you will take turns, he is effectively offloading it onto you and using you as a shield.

With regard to them buying things - don’t overthink it. You can’t control what they choose to spend their money on, you can ensure that they are wasting their money by never letting them use it. My relative had the MIL from hell who set up a full nursery (decorated and stocked almost like a showroom) and talked about looking forward to having the baby stay - my relative just let it wash over her and said that it was irrelevant what MIL did as her child was never going to use that stuff or be left with MIL but that there was no point blowing up about it.

kiwiane · 21/01/2025 02:27

You owe them nothing - they don’t care for the safety of your baby! I agree that you can check the date on the seat but unless you know for sure it’s not been in an accident then you should take it to the dump.
I think it’s worth putting what you want topmost here and tell them thanks but no thanks as you want to get your own stuff for your baby.
People who love shopping / car boot sales etc seem to see a new baby as an excuse to indulge their passion; refuse or donate anything you don’t want.

Auldlang · 21/01/2025 02:38

People don't get to buy their own car seats for your kids unless you trust them 100 %. It's too important.

Auldlang · 21/01/2025 02:39

WittyNavySheep · 21/01/2025 01:31

Sorry should have included DPs reaction! He normally handles the in laws and the difficulties with them. He had a emotional blackmail Olympic level call with them a couple days ago where they were upset we weren't up to visitors to talk.about preeclampsia diagnosis the day after we spent 12 hours at hospital and got home at 1am. He said he feels obligated to try with them as one sibling has given up with them and doesn't talk/see them and the other lives far away.

He was on the assumption as me that they were gifted as new and received we found out about the carrier now, to find out on the day we go to the hospital would have been an unnecessary stress.

He says he knows they can be difficult and we will take it in turns dealing with them.

Yeah, no. He may feel obligated to deal with them but you're not and DEFINITELY not postpartum.

5Bagatelles · 21/01/2025 02:41

Don't make things a bigger deal than they need to be. If they buy something bulky - ask them to keep it at their house. If they buy clothes you don't like, bin them. They're unlikely to be alone with your baby, let alone drive around, without you present so don't stress. Keep them onside. You might need their help when the baby gets here. Be very clear about what help you need e.g cleaning, meals, errands. Have a list of mundane tasks ready in case they pester you. If they insist on looking after the baby to let you "rest" or whatever, tell them you're breastfeeding and need privacy (this only works if you're not sharing too many details about how breastfeeding is going). If they want to visit, be clear about times and duration of the visit. Stop texting so much - blame it on tiredness. Don't overshare and don't tell anyone your due date. Good luck!

Isittimeformynapyet · 21/01/2025 02:45

"Have a good look at the pram, does it need a good clean or is it needing replacing too?
Clothes bundles, sort into sizes, then starting with the smallest size, sort into like or not, wash the stuff you like, charity bag the stuff you don't."

@Needspaceforlego I daresay you were trying to be helpful here, but I don't think OP is in the mood for an Idiot's Guide To Sorting Unwanted Baby Clothes right now.

HappyWhenItsSnowing · 21/01/2025 03:06

With a relationship like that, there is no way i would leave baby with them.
They think a battered car seat will be fine…
Would be a huge nope from me
No alone care until the child is atleast 6 or can be proven to be trusted

ChicLilacSeal · 21/01/2025 03:16

Isittimeformynapyet · 21/01/2025 02:45

"Have a good look at the pram, does it need a good clean or is it needing replacing too?
Clothes bundles, sort into sizes, then starting with the smallest size, sort into like or not, wash the stuff you like, charity bag the stuff you don't."

@Needspaceforlego I daresay you were trying to be helpful here, but I don't think OP is in the mood for an Idiot's Guide To Sorting Unwanted Baby Clothes right now.

Uncalled for.

LAMPS1 · 21/01/2025 03:22

It is certainly not unreasonable to firmly reject a second hand car seat.
Thanks but no thanks.
PIL were unreasonable to be cagey about where it had come from. And down right dishonest to suggest it was new. Very dangerous indeed!

They made a mistake to do that as now, you can’t trust them and this must be kindly and respectfully made clear to them by your DH, emphasising the importance of checking with you both BEFORE buying any large item for their grand child again. No doubt MIL will be smarting about that at first and might be a bit defensive if she feels foolish when just trying to be generous.

It’s entirely possible they simply didn’t know about car seat safety and regulations if this is the first grandchild, so it’s a matter of educating them on this and other important safety matters too. Of course they will think they know best as they have experince raising children but they may well not know how fast almost everything about caring for a baby has moved on since they did it.

I wouldn’t even bother acknowledging the car seat in MIL’s car as it will never be used anyway so it’s a waste of energy and hopefully they will soon realise the error of their ways and just quietly get rid of it anyway.

Once the safety aspects have been pointed out and the boundary set, everyone will know where they stand and you can resume your normal visiting schedule once you feel settled with your routine. It will probably be many months if not years before they will have a chance to be alone with your child but no need to burst their bubble on that now.

They are bound to be over enthusiastic about a new baby and it’s best to expect and tolerate this rather than punish it and push them away. It takes a bit of extra communication and diplomacy to set things the way you want them to be but your DH can still ensure to do it kindly with regard to their feelings and without upsetting them unduly.
If they are awkward and difficult then sadly, the natural consequence will be to withdraw a bit each time instead of subjecting yourselves to more negativity from them.

It shouldn’t be something you have to worry about at this late stage OP. Let it go over your head and leave it to DH to sort out with them. Don’t let it spoil your excitement. Good luck !