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In laws over gifting and saying items are new when they're secondhand.. such as a car seat 😬

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WittyNavySheep · 21/01/2025 01:13

I wouldn't be able to get all the nuances of this wonderful situation down without a substational amount of time and wine which is off the cards for a little while longer! So ill go with the most recent issue!

I am 8 months pregnant with what I am guessing will be the only grandchild for my partners family. He has 2 siblings, both of whom have said never to children. I know people change their minds, as i was one of those, but the assumption for the in laws is this might be their only one.

They live close to us but as there is very little in common we saw them as a couple once a month or less.. my partner saw them once a month and me less, admittedly!

Since the pregnancy announcement I have made an effort to text more and see them so they felt welcome and included. They bought over, without checking, what was presented as a brand new baby carrier/car seat, pram and loads of accessories. It was a very generous gift which was overwhelming at the time.. I didn't really know what to say. I would have liked to pick something myself but didn't say anything, accepted the gift graciously and it then took up space we didn't have for the next 6 months!

There have been multiple gift dumps since of items we either already had, didn't want or were something we wanted to buy ourselves such as baby clothes (we mostly filled the cupboards with bulk buys off marketlplace, so going out and picking a new snowsuit would have been a nice thing for us to do) ... to the point my partner had to ask them kindly to stop as we didn't have space... which isn't strictly true but I just needed them to stop !

I was nesting a bit today and finally decided to get the pram and accessories out to put in the car or just get them ready.. that's when I realised it was all secondhand, car seat and all. I was going to buy the pram second hand, so it's not that which is bothering me, but that it was presented very much as they had "done a lot of research and picked something that would work well for us". The car seat... looks er... battered? It's missing all of the internal padding and is effectively useless.

I tried to be tactful and ask by text if maybe the lining was left in the box or who they got it from ... but the replies were non committal and insisted it is as it should be. At no point did MIL admit it was bought or donated second hand and kept insisting it was as it should be. It's a thin piece of fabric and then hard plastic... it's missing a great deal. I politely informed her that we will need to buy a new one and what does she want us to do with hers, at this point she said to chuck it. Onto the pram, I said did she want to take that back as it doesn't work for what we need as i won't even be able to take it on a foot path (let alone trust it to last the length of one as the screws are all rusted, wheels wobbly have zero tread left) - she said she would have it.

I know I could have raised the pram at another time but I'm 2 weeks to go with preeclampsia and just looking at it was irritating me... it isn't close to what we need. I have now got a new car seat and a second hand all terrain pram which I love. I am a bit bothered that she alluded she has her own car seat? I'm very much in the protective momma bear era of the pregnancy and I'm not sure how I feel about that? Added to it, is I'm also concerned it's in the same poor condition as the one she gave us "new". I'm not fussy and most the items we have are second hand but we always planned on getting the car seat and cot new.

I've never in all the years I've known them ever heard them admit to fault. They are always the victim. Their entire family, both sides, don't speak to them but none of this is their fault, apparently. Though based on my experience for the last 8 months is a distinct lack of boundaries. I do know within hours she had told her tale of woe to a family member. I'm preparing myself for further repercussions and really need a sounding board for just how reasonable or unreasonable i was!

OP posts:
Visun · 21/01/2025 06:55

I'd be tempted to tell them you've discovered the car seat is expired and where did they get it from so you can file a complaint with them and trading standards. Lots of faux outrage that a company is putting babies lives at risk for a sale, and how bad you feel that they wasted so much money.

Tell them the pram is broken and you'd like to complain to the shop they bought it from. Serves them right for lying!

Needspaceforlego · 21/01/2025 07:25

@Visun what's the point that's just adding to Ops stress.

If the prams not suitable then ditch it. Say nothing. They probably can't even remember what it looked like.

Needspaceforlego · 21/01/2025 07:34

Isittimeformynapyet · 21/01/2025 02:45

"Have a good look at the pram, does it need a good clean or is it needing replacing too?
Clothes bundles, sort into sizes, then starting with the smallest size, sort into like or not, wash the stuff you like, charity bag the stuff you don't."

@Needspaceforlego I daresay you were trying to be helpful here, but I don't think OP is in the mood for an Idiot's Guide To Sorting Unwanted Baby Clothes right now.

Well what would you suggest she does with the mountain of clothes she's been given?

Logically I'd start with the smallest sizes. Sort, into what she wants to keep and get them washed, the other stuff goes into a bag and moved on, charity shop, rag bin, where ever is easiest just not in Ops house where it will just get in her way.

Bigger sizes can wait.

But Op certainly doesn't need to keep everything nor should she be left feeling guilty at buying some new stuff for her baby because she has a mountain of second hand stuff she doesn't really like.

You get one shot at being a first time mum. It should be a enjoyable time. Op needs to relax as much as possible and enjoy the excitement of the last couple of weeks.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 21/01/2025 07:39

Ignoring the obvious which is fovus on ypu amd the baby.

this will carry on.
Vinted is your friend

I smile and whisk it away to a cupboard with tags on to sell.
Rest goes in a shopping bag in dining room for charity

Blueberry911 · 21/01/2025 07:41

You can "take it in turns to deal with them" when your useless husband can take it in turns being pregnant.

Tell him it's his problem and you focus on you.

Han86 · 21/01/2025 07:46

Definitely no to the second hand car seat. I would be explaining to the in laws how times have changed and car seat safety has altered since they were parents. The only places that usually take car seats are fire stations as they use them in practice. Also I know some parents might offer to a friend, where they know the age of the car seat and whether it has been in any accidents.

If in laws keep saying items are new, I would ask for receipts and the boxes. Why would the pram set not come boxed if new? Would they really have been assembling it themselves? Make up something about the box having spares or having a code that links to special offers or a warranty.

I did buy a lot of baby items second hand and you could explain to the in laws that is fine, they don't need to lie about it, but some items must be bought new.

Needspaceforlego · 21/01/2025 10:27

Op re reading your opening post. You have dealt with both the car seat now binned? And the pram given back to her.

You main issue is the potential of a 2nd car seat of dubious origins in her car?

Get DH to double check it's OK ASAP. I'd also be reluctant to let them babysit or drive baby anywhere but you never know when you are caught in an emergency situation hence I think the best plan is to get DH to check it before your caught in an emergency.
I'm thinking flat tyre at the side of a motorway or somewhere where you'd want them to collect you and baby getting to heck out of the way.

AliceMcK · 21/01/2025 18:01

WittyNavySheep · 21/01/2025 02:19

Sorry, no, that's on me!! In my head I have assumed I have 2 weeks left, as @mental preparation I'm taking it as fact.. as it isn't off the table 😬 nor sure what I prefer more, earlier than expected or on time and living with the symptoms and being the size of a whale with nothing to do for the duration 🤣 I'm 36 weeks with c section currently scheduled the week 39 but been told this date can move and I'm.being monitored for now.

I was diagnosed at 37+5, I was also not in the uk and under a private obstetrician so it moved very fast. I was just happy they let me go home first as the season final of sons on anarchy was on that night and we didn’t have a way to record it, it’s all about priorities 😂

I hated the bloating, I couldn’t get my feet in shoes so was happy to get it over with. My 2nd cooked the full duration but I had no bloating so it felt so much easier.

Lesleymumof3kids · 24/01/2025 23:30

Cut the straps on the 2nd hand car seat so it cannot be used. No idea if it's been in an accident or dropped. Check the car seat she has bought and if any doubt take it and do the same! Tell her you will provide a car seat if she ever has the need to use one as 2nd hand ones are not safe. If over buying "stuff" ask for money in a savings account for the baby instead or ask for things where 2nd hand doesn't matter ( washable things) or a changing table etc.use redirection and bluntly say we have loads of 0-3 month ( whatever sizes you are swamped with)clothes the majority won't be worn as the baby will grow so fast it's a shame they will be unused or they will be for the wrong season ( is winter stuff in summer and vice versa) and won't be used.Ask for nappies or hand knitted cardis if she knits ( keeps her busy too!,)

RachTheAlpaca · 25/01/2025 01:03

I don't really have any advice for you, but just to let you know you're not alone!
Families hey! 🙄

Stepfordian · 25/01/2025 08:13

If the car seat and pram were new they would’ve been boxed with tags on, so I’m a bit confused that you didn’t realise they were second hand?

Just chuck what you don’t want and buy what you do, I can remember getting really upset that MIL turned up one day with a cheap supermarket coat for my first born when I’d been planning to get her first coat from Joules.

It used to really annoy me that PIL would waste loads of money on things we didn’t want, when they could’ve asked what we did want but as time has gone on they’ve got the hint that we don’t use the stuff they buy and they’ve calmed down a bit.

Almahart · 25/01/2025 08:27

Putting the unwanted gifts to one side I think you and your partner need to talk about how you are going to handle them when the baby is born.

They clearly have no boundaries. It is so important that you have time to rest and to get to know your baby. I would absolutely consider not telling them when you go into labour. Your DP will need to be really firm with them about when they visit and for how long.

My mil turned up to stay, uninvited when my first baby was born and just sat and talked at me about people I didn't know, how she irons shirts, all manner of crap. First all day by my hospital bed and then at home. Even when I was crying with exhaustion and hormonal blues, I had no privacy. Luckily my lovely sil came and took her away on about day 5 but it was awful. My DH felt he couldn't ask her to leave 'how can I tell my mum to f off' etc.

Anyway, I am older and wiser now and am passing this on to you so that you have a chance to think about how to handle this. It's a really important and special time and your bond with the baby is absolutely paramount

SpryCat · 25/01/2025 09:15

They wanted to come over to discuss preeclampsia and not happy because you both had been at the hospital and you needed to rest?
They are trying to get their claws into you by being over involved, buying lots for your baby! They know it’s harder to put down boundaries when manipulative people are bombarding you with supposed kindness like lots of second hand clothes you don’t want and dangerous car seat and a pram that you haven’t chose. They are taking your choices away by their “kindness” deliberately making you feel guilty for rejecting the crap they are filling your house with.
You need to let your Dh know it’s his parents and his problem to sort them out not yours. Don’t use the clothes they have bought unless it’s something you are happy for your baby to wear, you can sell them on vinted or sort through them and get a friend to take them to a charity shop. Buy your own and if they query about the clothes tell them they were not to your taste. Don’t reach out to them as it will be taken as encouragement by them, let your Dh deal with them and finally they will be scheming how to insist you get rest, time together and they will take your baby off your hands as they are so “caring”, you have to speak up to them, put your foot down and if it kicks off your Dh can deal with the fallout. Tip towing around them will just prolong the wool being over your Dh’s eyes longer and they will try to make out their request to be over all the time/ take baby out at 7 days old etc is reasonable as they are excited Gp’s. He might even plead for you to back down as he can’t bear the tantrums from them and wants peace, you want to concentrate on baby so he has a finger, he can use it to silence or shut off his phone. Your Dh has to understand that if he allows them to steam roll over you both they might be happy but you won’t be so either way he will be in the dog house so do what’s best for the baby who only needs happy, calm parents.

TaffetaRustle · 25/01/2025 09:23

No you will absolutely not be taking it in turns to deal with them.
I've never heard such Maddness.
Well done for tackling them on the car seat!
It speaks volumes that she couldn't have been equally surprised and apologised

I'd speak to a midwife and get them to ask your husband to keep you free of stress and worry at this time and after the birth and it must be him dealing with his

SpryCat · 25/01/2025 09:39

You need to rest before birth as you have preeclampsia except Mil is trying to make this about herself as she wants to discuss preeclampsia with you both. After you give birth you will want to rest up and your Dh and yourself to bond with the baby and any visitors coming over do so knowing it’s a quick visit as the new parents will be tired and need to rest when baby sleeps. You only get this newborn stage once with your baby so don’t push yourself to please others, you do what’s best for you and baby as your Mil will be ringing up all the time hassling for updates and visiting trying to make it all about her, not you being ill, due to give birth soon nor the baby when it arrives, she wants to be the centre of attention. That’s the reason her family have fell out with her and your Dh only usually visits her once a month, he can only bear her in small doses as everything is all about her and if she gets told to respect other people’s boundaries she shouts to all and sundry she is the victim. Please ignore her shit show, don’t feel guilty and let it play on your mind, if she can’t have a starring role then she wants to make sure she spoils motherhood for you. You concentrate on you, Dh and baby and any drama going over your head.

flower858 · 25/01/2025 11:01

WittyNavySheep · 21/01/2025 01:31

Sorry should have included DPs reaction! He normally handles the in laws and the difficulties with them. He had a emotional blackmail Olympic level call with them a couple days ago where they were upset we weren't up to visitors to talk.about preeclampsia diagnosis the day after we spent 12 hours at hospital and got home at 1am. He said he feels obligated to try with them as one sibling has given up with them and doesn't talk/see them and the other lives far away.

He was on the assumption as me that they were gifted as new and received we found out about the carrier now, to find out on the day we go to the hospital would have been an unnecessary stress.

He says he knows they can be difficult and we will take it in turns dealing with them.

There should be no taking in turns. It's his parents he needs to deal with it, you have enough on your plate

Needspaceforlego · 25/01/2025 11:29

@WittyNavySheep hope you are doing ok.

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