Shop allows dogs in and my item is ruined

[shedidwhatnan]

Argh. Still annoyed even typing this

Visited a store of a well known aspirational brand today.

They let dogs in and have water bowls outside, encouraging dogs to 'take a sip' and then goes on to say all dogs on leads or dogs in arms are welcome inside

I had just spent good money on something and stopped to have a look at something on the display table near the exit.

The owner seemed to have been having a browse next to me and her dog proceeded to go right next to me! My paper bag from the shop got wet

The store assistant noticed, giggled and went to get some stuff to clean up. No mention of my bag or compensating me when I said 'Oh dear, it's on my bag now'. She just said 'ha, what are they like!' Then ignored me and started chatting to the owner who whilst the cleaning stuff was fetched, kept apologising to me over and over

And in truth, it isn't the dog owners fault really. The ultimate blame is with the shop for allowing dogs of any kind beyond guide dogs into the place.

I asked for a clean bag. Discovered my item also got wet. Shop assistant said 'oh, hopefully it'll just wash out!' And that was that

I was so embarrassed and upset that I left

AIBU to think dogs shouldn't be in shops? I can sort of see the appeal to have a tasteful sausage dog allowed in but not medium+ size breeds!

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You sound like you have a very big chip on your shoulder.
You don’t even make much sense, just repeating silly assumptions about groups of people you have never met. You must have a very unpleasant view of humanity if you think all people who like dogs behave in the way you describe.

Is this a reflection of how you feel about yourself?

Of course there are some terrible owners and they reflect badly on others, as with any area of society sadly. I’m pleased that where I live, I haven’t noticed dogs “pissing and shitting everywhere in the street and indoors, jumping up on their clothes, slobbering over them, begging for food, tripping them up in the street or with there stupid long leads”. I think this might exist in your mind OP.

Anyway, I’m off to bed to snuggle up with my gorgeous little cockapoo.

Try to get the chip off your shoulder through.

Oh stop being so sanctimonious

Read the thread and the experiences of people and shop assistants. None of those experiences are about people who LIKE dogs

It's about people like you who own dogs but who have no consideration of others. So away you go to bed and reflect on how you might try and be more respectful.

It is totally the dog owners fault it is not the fault of the store.
This incident could just have easily happened outside of the store.
You must have been in very close proximity to the dog for this to have happened.
I have a male dog, he is house trained and would not wee inside a store. However if he did I cannot see any angle or position that would enable him to wee up a bag that was being carried by someone unless it was placed underneath him.
If the dog was female and squated you must have put the bag down on the floor next to the dog.
The owner apologised and if your item was soiled through the bag you should have had the discussion with the owner about them replacing it. I don't see the store are liable in any way.whatsoever, they don't own the dog and they are not liable for the dog or the dog owners actions.

You've ruined your argument in the first sentence.

Ok is it that humans have been picking their nose. Defecated without washing their hands. Carrying infectious diseases. Have you ever seen the swabs taken from a public hand rail? I assure you that dog hair would be the least of your worries, and I'm against dogs in shops.

‘No consideration for others?’
You know very little about me and yet you make sweeping statements about me and about large groups of people.
I’m not sure that the admittedly awful experiences of the tiny number of people who have written on this forum is exactly representative of things.
Do you even know what sanctimonious means? I suspect not or you would realise that the finger is pointing back at you.
Respectful? Written by somebody who uses ‘f’ words in their post. Mmmnnn

Stay away then, trust me you won't be missed.

If you really think dog hands is on par with snot and human shit, why would you object to someone expressing their disgust about it?

Once upon a time we sent kids up chimneys but thankfully we have evolved.

Couldn’t find a direct comparator however this is interesting as regards liability

law.stackexchange.com/questions/94062/purchased-merchandise-stolen-from-customer-before-taken-off-retailer-s-premises

Child labour is in no way equivalent to a dog sitting on a pavement for five minutes.

Of course it is the shop’s problem. If they welcome dogs into stores, they have to take responsibility for the consequences. I mean, it’s also the dog owner’s problem, but there’s plenty of blame to share around here.

Dogs have not. They shouldn’t be taken shopping, whether to go inside or be left outside.

one puzzlement i have with dog owners, there's a park with both a cycle track and a walking track parelle to each other, the parks rules are all dogs on leads, so your there cycling and nearly have an accident with the dog because they are off the lead and the owner tries to call the dog back to them but then the dog runs across the cycle track in some cases, i love the dogs but owners why when you know they should be on the lead in a park is omg behaviour,

There is a huge trade in dogs being stolen, no responsible dog owner would leave their dog tied up outside anywhere.

that i agree with

Dogs can and should be taken wherever their owners deem it suitable to take them as long as they are well trained.

Dogs have evolved, dog ownership has evolved and the way dogs are involved in their owners lives has changed and there is no going back.
I have a well trained dog who goes everywhere with me
We frequent and spend money in the shops and cafes which are dog friendly and we obviously don't frequent or spend money in the ones which are not, it really is that simple.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5253972-newfoundland-dog-in-hospital-whatever-next

You were still on the premises - you should have either asked the assistant to replace your wet item or said you want to return it.

The assistant should also have automatically done that for you.
’Hopefully it will wash out’ was your cue to say ‘I’m not going to risk it and I’d like a replacement’.

@shedidwhatnan

I really want to like dogs, but the amount of shit, chasing my kids into the road, licking my kids water bottles, off lead when they should be on a lead, taking up the whole pavement and forcing me into the road etc makes me really, really detest them - or rather dog owners.

We have a lovely deli along the High Street with fruit and veg displayed beautifully outside. Every time I walk past, there is a dog licking the veg and an oblivious dog owner having a chat. Gross. Haven’t witnessed a dog pissing over the veg yet, but I bet it happens.

I’d have demanded a refund saying your store policy means a dog has pissed all over my purchase.

Just want to add - licking and sniffing the veg with the same nose that had just been sniffing some other dogs arse…
It’s just completely vomit inducing.

This.

😂
a lot of dogs are infinitely less revolting than humans.

@IfOnlyOurEyesSawSouls

Hmm. Generally humans don’t shit on the pavement, sniff each others arses in public and piss over consumables - although I agree it’s a close call.

I love dogs, but all I can say is thank goodness I live in a place where dogs aren't allowed in shops (except for guide and companion dogs obviously).

I'm thinking more about doggy smells on things like clothes rather than germs, actually.