1.2 million 16-24 year olds currently out of work?

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just heard this on the telly, is this correct? Anyone any anecdotal data (your own children- mine are much younger) of why? I find that astounding imagine if these young people never work, terrifying

It sounds a mixed bag then in terms of young people being able to find jobs. I guess from those who have children in that age bracket what can parents of younger children do now to boost chances for our kids? I’ve got a little way yet with mine but I’d like to equip them as best I can

@Hmmmmwhy because all of the applications and interviews are online it's an absolute ball-ache for younger ones to get jobs unless you know someone who works there.

Luckily both my DS work and are in education but it's taken my now 17 year old over 8 months to land a part time job.

Sadly this is the tip of the iceberg, all my kids had part time jobs from 16 and worked hard to have things on their C.Vs. DS 21 left university summer 24 with a 2.1 in business and cannot get any fulltime job at all. He has applied for lots and rarely gets any feedback. A lot of young people want to work but their is no opportunities.

Agree with this, everything being online and having to register accounts and fill out 100 different aptitude tests etc must be soul destroying

She is fortunately. Luckily she's not been swayed to pack in her decent job which she is doing very well in for social media that could end any day. She sees it as a bonus.

Fax. Pah. I had to walk it down to head office which was in another building about 20mins away.

£2k a month is impressive! If you don’t mind me asking what does she do? (Don’t have TikTok so you may need to explain it to me like I’m a 🦖)

There’s a definite shift in attitude from some patents that they should concentrate on studies. I encouraged a pt job at sixth form but lots don’t want their kids working.
Traditional Saturday jobs don’t exist.
Mine worked at McDonalds zero hours contract from 16. But she was at their mercy for scheduling and couldn’t refuse shifts in reality - they had an unofficial snap chat group to trade. Her manager was nice and she got ok shifts but if not it wouldn’t have worked. Plus she was walking distance, if relying on bus it wouldn’t have worked eg 11pm finish after last bus.

Kids who haven’t worked then find it hard to get pt jobs at uni as they are on 18 plus min wage but no experience.
Regulations meaning younger workers need more protections - McDonalds manager called them her babies but I know dd needed a break sooner than an older worker etc. Hassle for employers scheduling.
If they have a skill like lifeguard, swim teacher or referee junior football it’s easier.

My relative works in the hospitality industry, and for a time she was responsible for scheduling bar and waiting shifts. She'd talk to me sometimes about how stressful it was. She knew very well that a lot of the time she'd end up having to go in over and above her own shifts to cover, because people just wouldn't turn up. The worst age group by far is the 18-22's. They don't care, they think it's beneath them and don't really want the job anyway, they think the world owes them a living, and when they do actually turn up they spend all their energy in avoiding the work to be done. They have to be constantly supervised as the second you take your eyes off them, they are shirking. Relative had no control over the hiring either, it was down to her manager and their boss.The most hardworking, reliable and efficient staff were the middle-aged and up.

My DC are 31 and 33 so out of this category but have both been in employment of some kind since 16, combined with studies etc
DS was job hunting for about 3 months after finishing university until he got a graduate training opportunity
DD was doing agency work for about 6 months between jobs
I do appreciate it’s really hard but as an employer when we are recruiting get lots of applications from people who are just fulfilling their quota for job searching and loads of others who are really unsuitable
For example a question about safeguarding and risk assessment (think social work type role) prompted responses including experience sweeping up broken glass in a bar role

Also, just to mention I’m not sure that the 16-24 age group should be included.

it may just indicate that more students are staying in education. Compulsory school leaving age used to be 16, it is now 18.

if going to uni & doing a standard degree with 1 yr in service they wouldn’t leave till 22-23, if doing an honours it would be 23-24 before they would be in FT work.

To be fair on them it's much harder to get work. DS (19) spent 5 hours a day applying for a out 3 months and then only got a job through a friend of mine. He was applying for loads, spending ages on each one and has some experience. I told him not to sign on as didn't want him getting used to it. Nearly had to though as it was costing a fortune to keep him in food!

ah thank you for explaining. Me and most of my friends left at 16, mix of work/ apprenticeships etc. some went on to 6th form, few went to uni. But everyone worked in some capacity

This process is one of the reasons I've struggled in the past, myself. I have Irlens and forms are very hard for me, specially without a proper computer to fill them out on. The. Attaching the CV correctly, having it go wrong so many times, it has left me in tears before. My 17 year old is at college but really wants a job (and needs it to be fair) and just inst having any luck. He's autistic but needs to try getting out there, he doesn't do much between college and sitting in his room. The job market is appalling and I've told my kiddo to stay living with us as long as he can, doing as many courses in his subject as he can, so that he's got a really good chance at blowing prospective employers up with his knowledge and talent.

Also, just to mention I’m not sure that the 16-24 age group should be included.
it may just indicate that more students are staying in education. Compulsory school leaving age used to be 16, it is now 18

The 1.2m is those neither in education OR work.

Fashion and travel! I'm also rubbish at all that, but she gets hundreds of thousands of views (often millions)

The infamous ‘hollow legged’ teen boy syndrome 😃

Is this correct? So it is 1.2 million in neither? Surely not..

You have to do psychometric tests to get a job at Asda now. 🤷‍♀️

There aren't that many "sweeping the floor on Saturdays" jobs anymore.

My twins are only 7. Both have ADHD and are Autistic. Twin 2 has more complex needs, with moderate to severe learning difficulties.
I do worry about what their future looks like, but even now I try to - as much as possible - get them involved in stuff around the house, helping in the garden, thinking about others and the local environment/community.
Even if paid work options are not feasible when they get to 15 or 16, there are still volunteering opportunities.
We're, I guess, poor and can't afford extra curricular activities, but I do - even now - try to prepare them for the world they'll be part of in the future.
But, yeah, as each year passes, I do increasingly wonder what the contribution to society for each girl will look like 9 or 10 years from now.
Scary, tbh.

There is in my house, unpaid 😅

You sound like a brilliant parent.

I do apologise OP I must have got confused with another thread😴however, London or not my comment still applies. It's not just about any disabilities/MH issues keeping the youngsters out, my DS23 has ASD and has overcome a great deal so far including being excluded from mainstream education since Year2 and a fight to get him back on track.

With my support he's been to College (got an L3 Btec), done voluntary work, been useful but the only thing on offer is an Apprenticeship with another L3 Btec and no job at the end of it. He's doing it but says he'd rather earn the NMW than the cut-price Apprenticeship wage.

We're sorting out his Uni applications now to study his passion; he'll get in having done a trial run through clearing last year.

The next worry is getting me a job once I wave him off in Sept - spent so many years ensuring DS was fine my own CV looks like shit, I'm old and there aren't many jobs around.

https://learningandwork.org.uk/what-we-do/social-justice-inclusion/youth-commission/youth-opportunity-index/ From the same source interactive map (if you scroll down the linked page a bit) to show a more localised picture