1.2 million 16-24 year olds currently out of work?

[Hmmmmwhy]

just heard this on the telly, is this correct? Anyone any anecdotal data (your own children- mine are much younger) of why? I find that astounding imagine if these young people never work, terrifying

Also there are approximately 6.5m people in this age group in England alone from what I can find. 1.2m is quite a small % really

@Hmmmmwhy i left school in the 80's, finished school on the Friday and started work the following Monday. Its not easy for them these days. Companies have so many people applying for very few vacancies

It really frustrates me when people say they can just "get a job in Sainsbury's". My ds had no luck with the supermarkets - those jobs are not easy to come by. He has picked up freelance gardening and warehouse work after a "chef" apprenticeship which was really not an apprenticeship but just part-time crap pay kitchen work where the hours were always reducing, he has done an access course and is applying for university. It is not easy for young people to get work.

I’m glad she got somewhere- I completely understand I had severe endometriosis when younger and didn’t realise until was past my 30’s (full hysterectomy now) so working with chronic pain I can sympathise, very very difficult and I hope she is well supported by employer

Working time regulations and general restrictions on what young people can do make them undesirable to major employers. I imagine a fair few will be doing cash in hand "pot washer" type of jobs too. But as previously stated FT education for most

Do those figures account for those in full time education as well?

Mines 21 and in her final year at university. She worked 40-50 hours a week on placement last year (unpaid) and therefore would have been counted as not working. She didn't have an earning job alongside because she was there 5 and a half days a week.
She can't have a job around university because of the nature of the course and needing to still do placements. She works when home for holidays on an ad hoc basis, so probably not counted there.
She did work between 17 and 19, around college, couldn't at 16 because of COVID.

Yes it’s a different world I think. I honestly very rarely see young people working in the jobs me and my friends would have been. Never see young people in our Tesco etc. also I think a lot of the ‘helper’ type jobs have gone to cost cutting- as I said I was a ‘Saturday girl’ in a hairdressers. Now most hairdresser operate on a ‘rent a chair’ basis and just work for themselves doing everything. I wonder how much of those type jobs have gone. I also worked at an Odeon and obviously a lot of leisure and casual dining has gone post covid which must have wiped out a lot of entry level jobs

I can't speak for McDonald's - but I know that many retailers don't seem to give a regular slot that would work for teens around college commitments. We all used to get a fixed Saturday job for instance, but there is a lot more 'you must be available for 16 hours a week, but we might not give you 16 hours and we will shift the 16 hours about'

No of course it won't be correct unless it's a very poor survey. It includes ages where most will be at school and a third at uni. Where did you get it from?

To consider too: my basic, minimum wage, hospitality job took me a few times to get (it was in a venue I really wanted to work in and offered chance for internal promotions which I've now taken) because of "experience", I eventually got it after having a couple of naff other minimum wage jobs (I had plenty of experience from volunteering which was more relevant to the job...). Recent hires for the same job have been much younger and less experienced than I was at the time, which is an improvement as it gives them chance and experience for the future. But most places aren't doing this

Definitely! They absolutely love her -she's quick and reliable and already has quite a few praise letters from managers. That was what was so frustrating during the months applying to so many jobs. Everyone wanted experience -as in a couple of years at least. We applied to one petrol station for a basic behind the counter job and they wanted someone who spoke at least one other language for minimum wage. I knew she would be a fantastic hire, just nobody would take her on. I've spoken to loads of other parents whose kids/teens/young adults have really struggled to get anywhere. I worked my way up from my office junior job at 16 which I got in a week after walking in with my CV. It just isn't like that anymore.

It definitely includes those just not looking for work, but I don’t think they can all be disabled and not capable of work, surely?

I spent the first two years of my career filing. I think youngsters would refuse to do that nowadays!

Sorry you’re right it’s a misleading headline (it was being discussed on tv tonight) but found the data here

still an exceptional number and 9.3 million people overall out of work in uk

www.linkedin.com/posts/the-times_youth-worklessness-hits-10-year-high-amid-activity-7262495165993431042-MsNE

Here's the data, but it's November 2024:

https://learningandwork.org.uk/what-we-do/employment-and-social-security/labour-market-analysis/november-2024/#:~:text=A%20further%20troubling%20rise%20means,career%20prospects%20and%20the%20economy.

It's odd that the TV news should be reporting this just now. A Google throws up nothing recent.

https://learningandwork.org.uk/what-we-do/employment-and-social-security/labour-market-analysis/november-2024/#:~:text=A%20further%20troubling%20rise%20means,career%20prospects%20and%20the%20economy. Is the figure being quoted from this?

Imagine! One of my first ‘real’ jobs I had to fax the figures to head office at the end of each day

the young’uns heads would explode 😂

Sitting at home trying to make it on TikTok. We can all have a good laugh about it but sadly it’s not far from the reality.

It was on talk tv

My 19 year old is in the RAF joined at 17.
At 13 she cleaned in a b and b. 14 -15 was Covid.
Age she 16 waitressed in 'Spoons and lifeguarding at Haven (and got 9 grade 9s and two 8s at GCSE).

So it IS doable if they have a good work ethic and supportive family

X post with @echt Great minds and all that….😀

I believe Tony Blair had done an interview today on a podcast about it
less said about him the better, mind… lol

Oh and she was diagnosed with autism aged 11. (Aspergers)

I used to work at McDonalds as a teen in the early 2000s. After school and on weekends. I was on the front counter taking orders along with 5 or 6 others my age. It was great fun.

I went into a McDonalds last week and there was NO ONE taking customer orders. I had to use a touch screen to place my own order.

Then after waiting 5 minutes, 1 lone, solitary worker handed my food to me.

There aren’t as many service jobs for young people anymore. All the supermarkets have gone the same way. Everything is self-checkouts.

It’s only going to get worse with the dawn of AI.

Based on the teenagers we've had over the last 4 years compared the ones we had over the last 20 years, I completely agree.