Why do so many people criticise vegans?

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I'm a meat eater!

However, I don't understand why people criticise vegans so much.

They aren't hurting me and are trying to save animals and the environment.

What's wrong with that?

Surely people should be more critical of me because animals are killed for me to eat?

You had the cheek to say the other poster was spouting claptrap? 🤣

Yes, they taste different from each other. No chicken doesn’t taste of much, a bit like chicken really, fairly bland until sauce/spices are added.
Vegan sausages tend to taste of herbs, kind of sausagy flavouring.
Vegan bacon tastes like bacon flavouring. Most bacon flavoured things are vegan, like frazzles, and even some crispy “bacon bits” are often just bacon flavoured wheat.
I don’t eat a lot of fake meats, but hope this helps.

Right thanks for the insight @HereForTheAnimals.

I've enjoyed bean burgers and veggie burgers plenty of times (and made them myself) and can imagine there's good and bad. I just wondered about how lamby or chickeny etc they are and what thar might mean.

Cheers @macaroniandcheeze

I eat meat and fish because it provides for a better all round healthier diet. Vegans mostly look half dead and twice their age. I can guarantee my body age is below yours

Eat what you like but this is a ridiculously stupid assertion.

Should have also added vegan burgers vary, some taste suspiciously too burgery and are a bit off putting if you don’t like meat but great for meat eaters cutting down for whatever reason.

I didn’t say I hate vegans. I said ones like the poster I quoted are sanctimonious. I don’t care what you eat but don’t try to convert me or my children.

Many studies find that a restrictive diet like this leads can lead to a variety of health issues.

I lived in California for five years. Many people are vegan so my selection pool for analysis is vast. I stand by my statement about appearance.

If someone says no milk it’s an ok and that’s that who do you hang around with that does the why.

everyone asks for a menu and most servers I have been one asks also if you’d
like to see the veggie option's too no vegan as we didn’t cater for it.

It’s now all do you have allergies and we point to the board that we are a multi purpose kitchen and some contamination may occur. If an allergy they don’t buy but an intolerance they usually do.

if someone has something different I’m curious but I don’t go all out and say that minging except for vegan cheese then I’ll say as I’ve tried a fair few of them.

Speaking on behalf of vegans we are not sad that you’re not in our gang ✌🏻since your diet seems to have resulted in an untreatable personality issue.

So all the vegans in California look old and unhealthy? Right.

For what it's worth I have been vegan for half my life, in my late 40s and IMHO I look good and feel great, hardly ill and blood pressure and cholesterol in great shape.

Do they? How odd. With all the highly controversial topics around at the moment, topics that lead to all manner of aggression and abuse, the one they warn against engaging with is veganism? I'm intrigued at what your friends think vegans are likely to say that will be so intolerable to read?

Gorillas are primarily herbivores, meaning their diet consists mainly of plant material. They typically eat leaves, stems, fruits, and shoots. However, gorillas are also known to occasionally consume insects such as ants and termites. These make up a very small part of their diet, and they don't actively hunt for meat.

So, while they do eat some animal matter, it's not a significant component of their diet. Gorillas get most of their nutrition from the abundant vegetation in their habitats.

Yeah it's true @5128gap. I think it's the relentless debate it arouses.

See above though where I imply that I don't want to be aligned with any meat eaters who say they hate vegans.

Yes but chimpanzees certainly do eat monkeys @SuePine69

Maybe it's the California sun @herpastcanchangethefuture?

All of them? Chimpanzees groups are varied and have their own cultures. Some of them can crack open nuts with stones but in other groups it is unknown even when nuts are available. For some groups hunting monkeys is a common occurrence although it could be that not all the individuals within these groups ever get to taste meat. For other groups hunting monkeys may be rare or non existent. All chimpanzees will eat ants and termites where available. Winged ants and termites are easily caught but there may be some chimpanzee communities that have never learned to use a tool to extract ants or termites from mounds.

We are getting to the point of arguing about chimpanzees. It's clear it is because people know they should be vegan, if they really care about animals or the world, but they don't want to.

As a vegetarian because of too often giving in to urges for eggs, cheese or skimmed milk.

I have never seen a thread on MN started by a vegan challenging meat eaters to a debate. Not one. Every thread has been started by meat eaters either outrightly criticising vegans, or telling some tale stereotyping us as performative/militant/sanctimonious to encourage everyone to weigh in with their own insufferable vegan I know anecdote.

Sitting here, minding our own business, we open threads to read we are unhealthy, self righteous, boring. We look old and ill, we are a nuisance socially and our opinions and ethics are wrong. Now the typical vegan will know a great deal more about veganism than the average meat eater, because veganism is our way of eating/living, but not really anything to do with your life, so why would you have researched it? Yet still the arguments against it come, so of course vegans are going to argue back.

The question was
Why do so many people criticise vegans?

I have given an answer to that
However you justify and minimise their actions those that end up on the news for being being in a group at a restaurant abusing those that are just having an meal, pouring milk out in a supermarket, destroying farms, desecrating graves of loved ones that work in the meat industry or stripping naked and covering themselves in paint in the middle of the street all in the name of veganism etc.
these are the public face veganism it doesn't matter how small the group is this is the public face of vegans.

As in so many cases the few give the many a bad name.

I don't know @SuePine69 . I haven't got around to asking them all yet. I'll let you know

They don't want to is about the size of it. Well done; you're getting there.

Me too. That's exactly why I started on this thread @5128gap. To correct some assumptions.

Meat eating will one day go the way of smoking, a small minority will cling on to it, i say that as a meat eater

Probably won't be give a choice @VoodooRajin.

There was a thread the other day about turnips likely no longer grown by British farmers. Sad day.

I think people feel guilty about their choice to eat meat and feel inferior. I'm a meat eater but I admire those who don't eat meat. I've never met a veggie/vegan try enforce views on anyone or brag, it's just come up naturally in conversation. I'm sure I've been in contact with other veggies and vegans without even knowing.