To hate Americanisms...?

[Groof]

I think maybe because it feels like all English-speaking cultures are becoming boring and homogenous.

New ones I've noticed that people in the UK didn't routinely say five years ago but are now EVERYWHERE:

• birth control (instead of 'contraception' or 'the pill')
• wait list (instead of waiting list)
• reach out

Which ones do you hate or AIBU?

@Dearg Nae bad - yersel?

I agree about the need to protect Doric for the future. We have a local Doric group who have always come into school to hold a Doric poetry contest for the kids. They were just saying how it has dwindled in the last 20 years - the kids look at them as they've never heard a lot of the words they use.

Sadly the Scottish Government seems intent on pushing the Gaelic agenda regardless of the small amount of speakers in certain areas.

Scottish through and through and I would never say 'needs washed' or for that matter 'needs washing'. I would say 'it needs to be washed'.

Some of DH’s family is from Pittsburgh PA and the older members use that syntax (“needs washed”). Definitely regional

Do you? Wow, I had no idea that you were in charge of the whole of the English language which includes correcting others rudely because you don’t agree.

Tell me at least you get an official title…..

Completely get it. All
those programs on tv about Brits abroad getting overly drunk, being rude, ruining local sites etc to the point that locals are rebelling were obviously all made up.

Im not saying Brits are all like that, but not all Americans are rude either. The sweeping generalisation is discriminatory at best.

It’s surprising how some posters can’t wrap their heads around that some of us have lived in the UK and in the States for years so would have way more experience with regional differences in both than they would just visiting the States or going off of what they hear in the media and see online. If we can say for most of us social media doesn’t often reflect our real life, why can’t the same be said about Americanisms.

Following this thread, I’ve seen more than enough posters moan about Americans not saying xyz in terms of British English yet have heard plenty Americans use the exact phrasing in specific regions.

We say ‘needs washed’ in NI. Well, when I say ‘we’, I don’t mean every single person in the land, before someone comes along to state they would never say such a thing, but it’s commonplace. We either say ‘it needs washed’ or (more formally) ‘it needs to be washed’. Never ‘it needs washing.’ It’s not a natural turn of phrase here at all.

But your examples are pronunciations not Americanisms. It’s like saying I don’t like the way Scousers say xxxx (love this accent btw!).

Thinly veiled discrimination.

🤦‍♀️. You do realise that anyone speaking English outside of the UK in an English speaking country used to be from the UK right? Unless of course they were from other European countries and learned English from Brits.

Almost sure thats why the British fought the French and colonies of the US and Canada to allow people migrating there to gain independence from monarchy and religion.

Careful your arrogance and thinly veiled discriminatory views are showing. It’s our language too.

The person you have quoted didn’t post that list @Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue. They were quoting someone else.

Thanks for the clarification. The post is for them then.

@Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue WTF are you accusing of discrimination !

Sorry not you! I inadvertently quoted your response rather than the original post. Sorry again, it was pointed out earlier and I could amend the post. I agree with you!

Interesting. It’s 100% standard where I am from - Central Belt. Are you saying that you never hear it or just that you, personally, would not say it? For example, I hear “youse” and “I seen it” around me all the time but choose personally not to use them.

I’m another Scot who says needs washed.

there are so many varieties of English outwith Little Englandshire

Yes, "needs done" is very common in NI and parts of Ireland. More than once I've seen it haughtily corrected on here to "needs washing", which is an equally incorrect regional usage.

NE Scotland and I'd say something "needs washing" rather than ""needs washed" but I've heard both used locally

You do realise that what I said was tongue-in-cheek? Or perhaps not. You obviously didn't notice my intentional use of an Americanism in my post.

Besides, there's no need to be so unpleasant in your unfounded accusations about my character.

Goddammit?
Is that an Americanism?

'uni' has been around for ages, surely? Pretty certain i called it that almost 30 years ago. Probably because I was too lazy to say the whole word 😀

Funnily enough DD2 went to a 'school' for her Masters.

Yes, I know. It's not just Anglo Saxon either. Plenty of other influences from Roman, Viking, Greek, French, Sanskrit, and no doubt others too. But the version of English as spoken in England was developed over centuries in England. That's why it's called English (other words and dialects in the British Isles are also available).

It has gone all over the world, and now it's coming back different. Arguing the toss about Americanisms isn't exactly a hill I'm prepared to die on anyway.

Yes. All of that.

Do people in Canada complain about Australianisms though?😂

It is possible to make your point without resorting to xenophobia.

Trunk and Ore-Ge-No give me the absolute RAGE 😂

There’s a TV ad for Trivago, evidently originally aimed at the US and dubbed into Brit speak.

Someone says, ‘How was your vacation, sir?’
🤬. Drives me mad! No Brit says ‘vacation’ - (except in the context of university sessions). We have holidays!