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To think of living apart but staying together

53 replies

PeppyPanda · 05/01/2025 15:19

At crunch point with DP since Boxing Day

Summary:

Together 5 yrs, lived together for 4yrs.
My DD (12) with us full time (recently diagnosed ASD)
His DD’s (10 & 8) are here us EoW & one night in the week (will be increasing by another night soon) One has severe anxiety and behavioural problems, the other undiagnosed but very obvious ADHD.
Difficult relationship with his ExW.

DP has suffered with mental health issues and diagnosed ADHD earlier this year and is on meds for this. I had MH issues during pandemic and recovered and have been OK for 3+ yrs.

DP has anger management problems - shouts, loses his temper with me/the kids, has a view on how everything ‘should’ be, has broken things in anger, drives scarily, finger jabs in my face and gets right in my face while shouting. In front of kids at times. I’m so ground down by it. For years I’ve expressed how I cannot cope with it. The frequency of outbursts have decreased but it’s still there rumbling as an undercurrent. He has huge resentments about early days when i wasn’t well and the fact we don’t have much sex.

I have basically zero libido the last 18 months, I think mostly due to the stress but am doing solo therapy for this now and also checking for any medical issues. DP says this has contributed to his anger massively.

My DD asked if we were gonna break up, I said it was tough right now and we were working on things. She said she’d be upset but that she’d be okay with it if we did.

I find step parenting v v draining, stressful and exhausting and we didn’t do a good job of setting the foundations when we first got together on this. His DC are hard work and my DD needs me more & more as she is struggling in secondary school.

Came to the end of my tether at Xmas and on Boxing Day just said I couldn’t do it anymore.

Have been in limbo since. Have found a rental property me & DD could move to. Ticks every box, have a viewing Tues. But I feel so desperately sad because if you removed all the external stressors, DP & I would have a very happy relationship.

I want peace and calm. I don’t care if the grass is greener or not, at least I know it’ll be bog standard grass.

DP has bought a book on anger management and wants to rengage in counselling together (we did three sessions pre Xmas after me asking to do it for 12+ months). And says it’s worth a go cos we could be happy.

I just feel absolutely at the end of my tether and a bit cheesed off I’ve been explaining my unhappiness for a long while and only when I say I’m gonna leave does it feel like he wants to seriously change.

Sorry it’s an essay and thank you if you got this far.

Am I unreasonable to say I don’t even want to try. I feel like I have zero bandwidth or energy to do it. Wish I did.

Also feel I’ve put time pressure on myself now because it’s so rare to find good rental properties in our area and this house really does tick all the boxes.

I suggested me and DD move out and we try to make it work living apart, this idea was quickly rebutted but the more I think about it the more I think it could be an option but maybe I’m deluded. I can’t force him if it doesn’t work for him.

Some moments I feel desperately sad and I have love for him and the kids and such sadness for the situation and in reality if we could make it work our life would be so great . Other moments I just read back all the things I’ve written down over the last week and think it’s madness to think it’ll really ever be perfect. Usually feels so logical when I’m not with him. Then when I’m back home and we talk about it I doubt everything I’m thinking.

OP posts:
SussexLass87 · 05/01/2025 15:21

He sounds awful...are there any good points to your relationship?

Get rid and be happy with your daughter!

bringmorewashing · 05/01/2025 15:24

It sounds like it could be the best thing you could do for yourself and your DD. A calm, happy environment is a valuable thing, and once the pressure is off you can see what positives the relationship brings to your life, if any

Wherehavetheyallgone · 05/01/2025 15:29

You only get one life. Waste no more of it. Move out, end the relationship, enjoy the teenage years ahead with your daughter.

You also don't want her to learn that putting up with anger is ok and repeat the pattern in her own relationships.

AreolaGrande · 05/01/2025 15:29

Move out. Your DD needs you to step up and prioritise her. Her saying she'd be ok with you splitting with your (frankly awful sounding) DP is her way of telling you this.

Give her the peaceful, calm home she needs and deserves.

Crunchymum · 05/01/2025 15:30

DP has anger management problems - shouts, loses his temper with me/the kids, has a view on how everything ‘should’ be, has broken things in anger, drives scarily, finger jabs in my face and gets right in my face while shouting. In front of kids at times. I’m so ground down by it

Urgh. What a cunt of a man.

Here's your opportunity to model better for your DD, because what she has witnessed so far won't help with her own boundaries and self worth.

I have basically zero libido the last 18 months, I think mostly due to the stress but am doing solo therapy for this now and also checking for any medical issues. DP says this has contributed to his anger massively

So you not wanting to have sex is the reason for his anger? Lordy!!

Crudd99 · 05/01/2025 15:39

Leave him and end the relationship. He's an abuser dressing it up as mental health problems.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 05/01/2025 15:41

Please leave. He sounds awful. But you know that otherwise you wouldn't have looked for a rental place. Your DD has told you she'll be fine if you split up. You'll feel so much better in your own calm space.

Interl0per · 05/01/2025 15:41

DP has anger management problems - shouts, loses his temper with me/the kids, has a view on how everything ‘should’ be, has broken things in anger, drives scarily, finger jabs in my face and gets right in my face while shouting. In front of kids at times. I’m so ground down by it. For years I’ve expressed how I cannot cope with it. The frequency of outbursts have decreased but it’s still there rumbling as an undercurrent. He has huge resentments about early days when i wasn’t well and the fact we don’t have much sex.

Can I ask you to reflect on whether DP has "anger management problems" with other people/situations? Does he lose his temper at work? With friends? Etc.?

If not, then can I gently suggest that he doesn't have an anger management problem. He is able to regulate his anger, and react appropriately in other situations. There are many cases of domestic abuse where the behaviour is explained as "anger management," when in fact it is an abuse of power within the relationship (a fundamental part of abusive patterns).
hugs

WasThatACorner · 05/01/2025 15:44

A relationship that would be great "If you removed all the external stressors" is never going to be great.

Good relationships are when even with all of the stressors you feel loved and supported. It doesn't sound like that's the case.

Plus, anybody who blames their temper on their partner not wanting to have sex is not a keeper.

Vaxtable · 05/01/2025 15:47

You put your daughter first. She sees her mother being abused. That’s not on

leave and I would consider not carrying on with the relationship

outerspacepotato · 05/01/2025 15:47

You're making an awful lot of excuses for an abuser. Don't go to therapy with an abuser

You have your daughter in an abusive home and she's struggling.

Leave.

UghFletcher · 05/01/2025 15:49

Another vote to just LTB here. You don't need to remove the external stressors - he IS the stressor.

Move on OP, get the new place with your DD and live a better life rid of this loser

RedHelenB · 05/01/2025 15:50

Just split up. Goodness knows how much damage to you your partner and both sets of kids has been done. Relationships don't have to be this hard all the time, abd if they are you are better off single.

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 05/01/2025 15:53

The anger is abuse. Move you and your DD to the rental and call the relationship off.

What’s the situation with the current house? His? Owned jointly?

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/01/2025 15:56

He's abusive and angry because you're not shagging him? That doesn't sound like a threat in order to make you shag him more at ALL.

Model good boundaries to your DD, move out and stop the relationship. And then talk to her a lot about abuse and why you don't stay.

Meadowfinch · 05/01/2025 15:57

It's a perfectly reasonable plan.

Move out, take the step-parenting out of the mix. Allow you and your dcs some peace away from his anger and see how you get on.

You can always move back in together in the future, if you want to, but right now it will be better for everyone if you both have more space.

Jojimoji · 05/01/2025 15:57

This is a hard read, but an easy answer.

You are not happy in this relationship, he has major issues and you cannot change him.
Get out.

LlynTegid · 05/01/2025 15:59

I'm sorry to read that your self-esteem is so low that you even consider being with someone who is like you describe. Your DD and you will be better off.

NWQM · 05/01/2025 16:00

From what you have written it doesn't sound like to salvage. Therapy is a tricky one as it can help a relationship end in a better way but as you no DC's together it is just the financial position presumably so not sure that it would help as a couple. In any event it sounds as if you both have in going matters that would benefit from therapy. I think you should seek it from your GP and perhaps consider the freedom programme if you see in the UK.

Often relationship therapists will recommend 1:1 counselling first as you have to be in a good place to know what good foundations for a relationship are and to create. Call his bluff a little and ask if he would go to therapy including anger management. If he says no I think you have your answer - he is suggesting therapy so you don't leave. He is wanting to control not rebuild the relationship

I honestly think you will regret not moving. It's a massive step and well done for getting as far as finding a property. Be cautious about how much of your plans you disclose - he is not your friend in this - and make appropriate plans re finance, passports etc. If you have a trusted friend or family member near by I would quietly be moving across it then passports and other ID documents.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 05/01/2025 16:01

Is the current home mortgaged or rented? Make sure you get that sorted out.

Leave him now, for yours and your daughter's sakes.

Eviebeans · 05/01/2025 16:06

It’s not my place to be telling people what it’s okay to accept in their relationship but for me the first time someone drove scarily with me in the car or finger jabbed in my face would be the last

LycheeFizz · 05/01/2025 16:07

Move out and give yourself time and space to think. You and DD won't have all that stress and I'm sure will feel happier instantly.

Once you're away from him you can decide if you want to try again (although from outside he sounds awful).

CrotchetyQuaver · 05/01/2025 16:11

Honestly i think I'd leave. All that anger and it's being blamed on you, I'd say that's abuse. Even if he did make a huge effort to wind his neck in, you'd always be waiting for the next explosion. I'd leave. Hope you get the house!

nonbinaryfinery · 05/01/2025 16:13

He sounds fucking awful. Get rid. You'll be so much happier.

ChristmasKelpie · 05/01/2025 16:14

Your poor daughter is telling you she has had enough. Rent the property and find some peace. Yes you could maybe be happy if there was no stress but the stress of family life is there and can't be ignored. Life is way to short to live the crap life you are living.
Agree to the counselling whilst you live apart but i think you will find you enjoy the peace and contentment without him.