To wonder if 'Big Food' are up in arms about weight loss injections?

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I've just finished reading Ultra Processed People (great book!) and the realisation that so much processed food is irresistible because they literally design it to be has got me thinking - are the companies that make our favourite salty snacks, fizzy drinks, ready meals, processed foods etc concerned about how many people are using the weight loss injections?

I'm not on the injections myself but a couple of family members are and they are amazed by how the food noise is quietened and they don't crave all this stuff anymore. They are just giving their bodies what they objectively need rather than what they crave. It's a game changer really!

But what are the big food companies thinking? Anyone have any inside info?!

prices will plummet as patents expire.

I initially read that as "...as patients expire."

I had to cut down carbohydrates after a high HbA1c measurement (suggestive of type 2 diabetes). As my eating & shopping habits have changed I've become more & more aware of the mountains of crisps, cakes, biscuits & chocolate everyone has to pass through in a regular supermarket visit. And it's 100 times worse in convenience stores, where everything apart from junk is pushed to the back of the shop.

They'll probably start producing their own injections and 'diet plan foods' alongside their crap food to cover all areas of the market, plus the 'health' junk food they already make.

For diabetics, who have a very specific physiological condition. There hasn't been the same long-term research into people using them just for weight loss.

So you are changing an addiction to food to an addiction to the drug? Isn't the point to train your eating habits and then get off the drugs? What will be the effects of taking these drugs for life? They are not risk free which is why they are on prescription and only prescribed for people with serious health problems due to their weight.

Weight gain isn't just about poor food/too much food though, I don't think. Lifestyle and sedentary occupations play a part too plus availability of things like sporting facilities and the cost of gym memberships.

How is it addiction. I’m on blood pressure meds, no one says I’m an addict?

Why is it ok to be on some medications forever but not others? My DF is on Metformin forever and is hugely overweight, would it be preferable for me to go the same way or take Mounjaro forever and live a healthy lifestyle?

Yes I was surprised at the comment, it’s an odd view point, apparently you can take drugs for life for some conditions. But if it’s obesity you’re an addict?

the mind boggles.

Do you not think those on the injections might also be able to change their eating behavior? Like you clearly have.

Losing weight on mounjaro also requires willpower and a change of eating habits. It doesn't fall off magically.

I haven't seen any evidence that these injections are addictive. Where are you seeing that?

Perhaps people on WLI will realise, as you did, that they’ll have to eat smaller portions to keep the weight off.

Because they can't meet demand yet. It's also a necessary drug for diabetics the weight loss is a side hustle

No it’s not, it takes 15 years for drugs to be approved for any given cause. Diabetes was just first up. Then weight loss, next is cardiovascular and kidney disease. Simply as something is approved by the regulators second or third doesn’t make it a side hustle. Just diabetes was easier so was first.

That’s amazing! I’m about to stop taking mine so this is great to hear. Well done on your loss.

So you are changing an addiction to food to an addiction to the drug? Isn't the point to train your eating habits and then get off the drugs? What will be the effects of taking these drugs for life? They are not risk free which is why they are on prescription and only prescribed for people with serious health problems due to their weight

What a bizarre thing to say. Are people on, say, blood thinners for life also addicts? I wish people would just have the courage of their convictions and admit that they absolutely hate that fat people now have access to something that helps them no longer be fat.

It seems that a lot of people are letting their fat phobia get in the way of reality on this thread. People don't want fat people to lose weight unless they can do it without any medical assistance because they don't understand the complexities of the causes of obesity and they think being fat is a moral failing.

There's a lot of talk about side effects from people who obviously haven't done any reading in depth around these drugs. And some made up guesswork about NHS budgets. It always amazes me how strongly people can feel - to the point of having tantrums and being aggressive - about things they aren't actually informed on.

Absolutely, Weight Watchers have a GLP-1 plan you can follow. Everyone will be cashing in.

I keep seeing this fundamental misunderstanding of WLI by those who think it's cheating. They seem to think that the jab enables people to take it and then remain sitting on the sofa stuffing doughnuts.
The whole point is that desire for food, both in terms of quantity/portion size AND what they fancy, completely changes. I could no more (want to) eat a doughnut or have a glass of wine now than I could eat a dog turd. They just do not appeal. And as I lose weight, I have the energy (and commitment) to get up and move.
And how come "traditional" weight-losers can keep the weight off afterwards and post WLI-ers won't? Same challenges, surely?

@Shrinkingrose time for bingo

not sure why we are adding face cream to the mix.. not sure what happened there!

The issue is future coat vs. the cost now.

There's loads of things that the NHS could do that would save them money long term, the problem is that it costs them money now. And they don't have that money.

Yes, chucking millions of people on Mounjaro now would save them lots of money in 20 years, but it'll cost them a lot of money right now.

Bullseye 🎯

Same, @ChimneyRock . Mounjaro and Ozempic won't stop you getting fat if you eat KFC every day. They won't magically melt away your fat while you eat as normal. They do not work like that.

All they actually do is shut down the food noise in your brain, so you can diet like everyone else who doesn't have food noise. They may also work as an appetite suppressant, but i have been over-eatig for so long that i don't actually recognise the difference between appetite and food noise, so I'll get back to you on that one.

I find it interesting that my dad will see a meal as good value if there’s piles of food whereas I like smaller meals that taste good. I wonder if there’s a generational thing but while calorie counting I’ve noticed how few meal options under 1,000 calories exist!

Hardly bullseye. That user just came out with a load of made up "facts" (opinions) and then when they were called out, accused the other person of "aggression" in order to deflect.

Side hustle 😂😂😂 yeah because there’s no link between diabetes and obesity 🙄😆