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Good day to bury bad news - 20th jan 2025

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pdq123 · 03/01/2025 21:13

Remember this little email
BBC News | UK POLITICS | Spin memo row duo quit

Guess what's happening on the 20th jan 2025 ?

Trump's Inauguration Day of course and given the fact all main stream media will be bleating on about it from the week before till the week after, how easy it would be for these events to be missed.

So keep it simple and ask yourself how all the events above that all occurred at different times all now start at the same time.

How convent for all these things to start on the same day a huge worldwide event. I think its government steered and definitely not unreasonable to think these events have been scheduled then to hide bad news

Who is Ricky Jones? The ex-Labour councillor who has appeared in court

Councillor Ricky Jones was suspended by Labour after his speech in Walthamstow during the recent riots

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/who-is-ricky-jones-the-exlabour-councillor-who-has-appeared-in-court-b1180553.html

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pdq123 · 04/01/2025 02:41

JHound · 04/01/2025 02:12

@pdq123

Tell me in detail! why then all the court dates appeared in days after the riots

Sigh.

Because they followed the model already established to handle the riots in 2011 with extra capacity made and late night hearings to handle the sheer volume of criminal thugs before them.

So the then DPP sought and changed court cases running order and added additional courts to deal with the break down of law and order. You know act as a deterrent.

Perhaps things like attacks on armed police officers in a potential terrorist target is equal to the attacks on police of criminal thugs at an illegal migrant hotel.
or
you still think it was a fight at an airport. ?

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LostittoBostik · 04/01/2025 03:40

pdq123 · 04/01/2025 02:11

I must correct myself - the email stating it was a good day to bury bad news was not on the 911 attacks but was on the day of funeral of person of interest to the media.

But it's often used to describe a tactic where unfavourable information is released during a major event to minimize public scrutiny.

The most recent instance of the "good day to bury bad news" tactic in the UK occurred on February 29, 2024. On this day, the Home Office released 13 reports critical of UK border control at 4pm, coinciding with major news stories, including an inquiry into the murder of Sarah Everard and a large set of immigration statistics

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The immigration statistics were part of the SAME story. Of course the media will cover them on the same as the reports critical of the handling of migration numbers

MerrilyOnhigh · 04/01/2025 10:04

pdq123 · 04/01/2025 00:45

Exactly where did I say that ? Your reading your own agenda into that.
Once the trials or hearing starts no one will report much about it till the end.

You haven't really followed trial reports, have you? The reality is that they don't really get into the meat of trials till the second day, and the main evidence certainly does get reported. Just have a look back to a few prominent trials that have taken place over the last couple of years.

MerrilyOnhigh · 04/01/2025 10:07

But to get them all out in a single day, perhaps allows the uninformed to be embarrassed when they say nothing has been done, when in fact the trials have been started. ( or the hearing, but more importantly legal action has been started)

If the uninformed choose to start ranting that nothing has been done without taking the very elementary step of checking their facts first, that is absolutely on them and no-one else. Google is a thing, you know.

MerrilyOnhigh · 04/01/2025 10:09

spoonfulofsugar1 · 04/01/2025 00:50

The dates of the election and the inauguration are set well before some of these crimes even occured, regardless of who won.
And its entirely possible to do. Look how easy it was to rush through the trials pf those arrested from the uk riots. The legal system is complex and unwieldy but it is possible to intervene in individual cases if its deemed in the public interest.

Your comparator doesn't work. The riots cases weren't "rushed through" because they didn't have trials as they were pleading guilty. The timing was therefore absolutely standard.

Annabella92 · 04/01/2025 10:11

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 21:17

As someone who works in the media I still expect these to be covered well. Trump’s inauguration really isn’t that important over here that news outlets won’t run anything else

Do you think the Southport killings were covered well at the time?

Annabella92 · 04/01/2025 10:17

SafeguardingSocialWorker · 03/01/2025 21:20

Clearly not spent much time round the criminal justice system if you think this is remotely possible to co-ordinate.

How many individual courts, judges, available witnesses/experts etc do you think are in on it? And who are you suggesting is pulling the strings?

Some of these court dates will have been set before the US elections even happened!

It's amazing how the justice system really does manage to coordinate and kick up a gear when it comes to "far right rioting" and tweets, nobody believes strings weren't pulled in that instance.

No matter the outcome of the election, it was known when the inauguration would be. To make such a weak point undermines the rest you have to say on the issue.

tygertygers · 04/01/2025 10:18

As someone who has worked within the court system... LOL at the idea this could be a coordinated government plan!

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 04/01/2025 12:45

Annabella92 · 04/01/2025 10:11

Do you think the Southport killings were covered well at the time?

Yes of course. You heard about them didn’t you?

latetothefisting · 04/01/2025 13:22

get a grip!

you've got 4 trials, which aren't even starting the same week, let alone the same day, out of the thousands that take place in the UK every single week. I accept there might be some coverage of the inauguration on the 20th but the Southport trial, for example, is expected to last 4 weeks and the army stabbing 3 weeks. The papers won't still be covering the inauguration, let alone to the expense of al other news, then ffs!

Annabella92 · 04/01/2025 13:44

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 04/01/2025 12:45

Yes of course. You heard about them didn’t you?

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I heard about them in a manner that I thought very odd and clearly an attempt to obfuscate and skew the narrative away from facts that wouldn't go down well with the public. The Christian Welsh choir boy who looked nine years old and absolutely no connection to Islam or any potential terror motivation. It looked like a duck and quacked like a duck and the BBC insisted it was definitely not a duck. But have slowly been forced to concede - kinda was a duck.

I never had twitter before this event, but it was such a brazen attempt by the BBC to sow misinformation I created an account to see if I was the only person who thought this.

If you believe that coverage did anything other than further destroy trust in mainstream media then I don't know what to say.

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 04/01/2025 14:11

Annabella92 · 04/01/2025 13:44

I heard about them in a manner that I thought very odd and clearly an attempt to obfuscate and skew the narrative away from facts that wouldn't go down well with the public. The Christian Welsh choir boy who looked nine years old and absolutely no connection to Islam or any potential terror motivation. It looked like a duck and quacked like a duck and the BBC insisted it was definitely not a duck. But have slowly been forced to concede - kinda was a duck.

I never had twitter before this event, but it was such a brazen attempt by the BBC to sow misinformation I created an account to see if I was the only person who thought this.

If you believe that coverage did anything other than further destroy trust in mainstream media then I don't know what to say.

The media can only put out what the police tell them. Not sure how it’s the BBC’s fault that the Islam aspect wasn’t disclosed?

LondonLawyer · 04/01/2025 15:14

pdq123 · 04/01/2025 00:38

This must be the forensic skills I keep hearing about, unless you cant read and analyse all the data given in a succinct manner. ;)

From one of my earlier posts
United States presidential inauguration - Wikipedia
Since 1974 all inaugurations have taken place on the 20th jan.

If I was a spin doctour trying to manage bad news, this would be a prime candidate.

It was fixed months before Trump's election win, it doesn't matter who won the election, its a day the media is concentrating else where and not a slow news day where the media look to the local courts for a story.

Hence a "good day to bury bad news".

I think its a mistake to have all these trials/hearings start on these same day or week. All these events listed are potentially allowing further accusations of two tier justice to grow.

But to get them all out in a single day, perhaps allows the uninformed to be embarrassed when they say nothing has been done, when in fact the trials have been started. ( or the hearing, but more importantly legal action has been started)

The starting point of all three trials on the same day as the inaugaration is fairly pointless, though. During the trials there will only be a summary of the evidence given on the media (Contempt of Court Act 1981) . The real noise and fuss will be after the verdicts. These trials last for different lengths of time, and the verdicts (whatever they are) are highly unlikely to be in the same week as each other, and two at least won't probably even be the same week.
It would be incredibly difficult to "fix" trial start dates at four different courts for four different cases. Trial dates don't come from stone tablets sent by the MoJ, they are set by listing officers in each court organisation according to the availability on the court's diary, and (depending on a case) police, witnesses, expert reports, counsel, etc. It is likely attempts to manipulate it could fail, and it would take an immense amount of effort to fiddle these all to start on 20th January. And there's little point anyway.

MerrilyOnhigh · 20/01/2025 14:56

Contrary to your prognostications, OP, the Rudakubana trial is being extensively reported today, and took up a large section of the TV news at lunchtime. How do you feel about that?

tightarses · 20/01/2025 15:00

What is it about these news items that makes them controversial and so all happening on 20th ? What am I missing here 🤔

MerrilyOnhigh · 20/01/2025 18:16

tightarses · 20/01/2025 15:00

What is it about these news items that makes them controversial and so all happening on 20th ? What am I missing here 🤔

In the Southport case, it's reasonably clear OP wants to be able to blame it on Moslems and/or immigrants, and therefore made out the government was in on some dastardly plot to keep the trial quiet because it would come out that the perpetrator was both. Which of course hasn't happened anyway.

LostittoBostik · 20/01/2025 23:10

MerrilyOnhigh · 20/01/2025 14:56

Contrary to your prognostications, OP, the Rudakubana trial is being extensively reported today, and took up a large section of the TV news at lunchtime. How do you feel about that?

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