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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To cut contact with my heavily pregnant sister?

122 replies

QuickScroller · 03/01/2025 15:27

My DS has always been a challenging person, and it’s only gotten worse over the years. Growing up, she caused my parents a lot of stress. One particular memory that stands out is when, as a teenager, she threw my DM’s phone into a pond and destroyed ornaments that she had bought my DM for Mother’s Day, which were meant to be sentimental gifts. Our dad passed away in 2016, and I’ve always had a stronger relationship with my parents. I enjoy spending time with them, but my DS never did, which led to jealousy. She’s often accused me of being the “favourite,” which has led to a lot of bullying behaviour from her. She would lie about things to make me look bad—one time, a couple of years ago, I asked for a £40 jacket for Christmas (our budget was £50), and she told my DM I’d asked for a £150 one, even though I had shown my DM the link to the £40 jacket, just to make me look bad.

Fast forward to now—she’s 33, I’m 29, and she’s pregnant with her first DC, due in February. Her behaviour has only gotten worse, especially during her pregnancy. She and her fiancé got engaged last year, and my DM organised a family celebration dinner for a week later. My DS made a huge fuss about us not sending her a congratulations card in the post(even though we had both bought one to give her in person at the meal). She threw such a tantrum about the cards that she refused to attend the dinner, which ended up being cancelled and my DM losing the deposit - she didn’t speak to my DM
for 4 months after this (because of a card). She also went ballistic at me and my DM because we didn’t get her an engagement gift. It got to the point where I ended up sending £100 in vouchers just to stop the constant nasty messages, but I regret it.

Her behaviour has only worsened during her pregnancy. She’s become abusive over the smallest things and regularly accuses me of not sticking up for her. After an argument with our DM, for no reason, she bombarded me with texts, and when I calmly explained I wasn’t going to get involved (since last time I did, she cut me off for months), she blocked me for three months after sending the nastiest abusive texts ever. I hadn’t seen her for a couple of months, but I saw her on Boxing Day. She moaned about the presents my DM got her saying they weren’t very expensive and then moaned about the food. I tried to be supportive about the pregnancy, but it was hard. The day ended with me saying ‘I can’t wait to be an auntie’ to her telling me, “Well, it’s my baby. You won’t be spending any time alone with it.” When I asked why, she said, “You have PCOS, if you were meant to be around children, you’d be fertile.” She also called me a “pedo” for wanting to be around the baby. I was devastated, especially since she knows how much I want to be a DM myself and how hard I’ve worked to improve my chances of conceiving (I haven’t started trying yet). She also told my DM she couldn’t be around the baby because she’s “too old” (60s, works full time, and goes to the gym three times a week) and can’t be trusted around babies. She regularly tells my mum to ‘go die ’. The disrespect she has is disgusting and I’m sick of it.

I had major surgery in August, and when she came round, I needed help answering the door, she refused to answer the door because was “3 months pregnant,” leaving me to struggle to get up and walk, 3 days after the operation.

This constant bullying and manipulation have drained me, and I’m exhausted. These are just a few examples, but they reflect years of toxic behavior from her and I could write pages and pages of everything she has done.

So, AIBU if I cut her out of my life? Part of me feels guilty because I want to have a relationship with my DN when he’s born, he feels like a link to my DD who passed, but I feel like her behaviour is seriously affecting my mental health. Any advice would be appreciated.

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TwoBigNoisyBoys · 03/01/2025 15:36

She sounds utterly awful. I think the best thing would be to go NC. I know you’ll be sad at not being part of your niece/nephew’s life, but she sounds unhinged to be honest and I think any involvement you have will be at your detriment.

(And I’m saying this as someone who is very very low contact (2 or 3 text messages a year) with a sibling due to the stress of having them in my life, so I really do understand)

Frostyaf · 03/01/2025 15:38

I was ready to be on your sisters side as people seem to go no contact over trivial things, but this isn't trivial at all! She sounds very toxic

legalseagull · 03/01/2025 15:39

Sad as it is, I'd go NC. She will only get worse

SnoopysHoose · 03/01/2025 15:40

Dear god she's awful and sounds mentally ill
“Well, it’s my baby. You won’t be spending any time alone with it.” When I asked why, she said, “You have PCOS, if you were meant to be around children, you’d be fertile.” She also called me a “pedo” for wanting to be around the baby.
that is disturbed to think never mind say to her own sister!!
Cut her off, you wouldn't tolerate this from a friend or colleague, being a sister doesn't excuse her horrific behaviour.

HashtagShitShop · 03/01/2025 15:41

Both you and your mum need to cut her loose. Any time spent with a nephew would be overshadowed by her and her behaviour and the dread of having to see her to be around him.

She doesn't want to be around you and your mum, your gifts and celebrations of her aren't enough? She's never grateful and worse tells people to die and sends abusive texts? Cut her off, block her, change your numbers and ignore her.

There's every chance that as they grow your nephew will exhibit behaviours taught to them by his mother as she will be his role model so you'll get it from another angle via her if you do have a relationship with him.

I'm sure she'll come crawling soon enough because she wants to do something but can't because of a baby (nights out etc.) tough. She's made her bed she can lie in it.

Lammveg · 03/01/2025 15:43

I'm sorry OP but she sounds fucking vile!

If this was a friend you'd cut them out of your life, and I don't think her being a sister should mean you have to put up with this behaviour.

You don't have to announce you're cutting her out but instead, don't reply to her, don't call her etc. If you want to message, keep things simple and neutral 'hope all goes well with the baby' etc incase you want to keep lines open because of DN.

It's a shame you won't see your DN but in time your DS might realise she's awful and change (although i wouldn't hold my breath!)

JimHalpertsWife · 03/01/2025 15:46

The comments about PCOS infertility and paedo would be reason alone to cut all future contact with this woman. Let alone any history.

Do it.

Bumblingbee101 · 03/01/2025 15:51

All I can say is hugs to you OP. You and your mum have been through the ringer. I'm so sorry to read about your loss as well. It sounds like your DS is very self absorbed, used her engagement as leverage and now her baby to get what she wants. How does your mum feel? I think NC for a bit would help. You can take a break on social media (she won't know) but none of her posts will appear to you so it's one down from blocking. I know you want to be in DN's life but does her partner condone this? A break sounds good. Good luck 💓

Joelle84 · 03/01/2025 15:53

“The day ended with me saying ‘I can’t wait to be an auntie’ to her telling me, “Well, it’s my baby. You won’t be spending any time alone with it.” When I asked why, she said, “You have PCOS, if you were meant to be around children, you’d be fertile.” She also called me a “pedo” for wanting to be around the baby. I was devastated, especially since she knows how much I want to be a DM myself and how hard I’ve worked to improve my chances of conceiving (I haven’t started trying yet). She also told my DM she couldn’t be around the baby because she’s “too old” (60s, works full time, and goes to the gym three times a week) and can’t be trusted around babies. She regularly tells my mum to ‘go die ’. The disrespect she has is disgusting and I’m sick of it“

wow wtf. She is one nasty woman. That poor child being born to this person. Distance yourself. Sad situation but it is what it is. You cant help people like this unfortunately 🤷🏻‍♀️ her children will grow up to hate her. Keep being you. I do hope eventually things work out for you with conceiving op

QuickScroller · 03/01/2025 15:54

Bumblingbee101 · 03/01/2025 15:51

All I can say is hugs to you OP. You and your mum have been through the ringer. I'm so sorry to read about your loss as well. It sounds like your DS is very self absorbed, used her engagement as leverage and now her baby to get what she wants. How does your mum feel? I think NC for a bit would help. You can take a break on social media (she won't know) but none of her posts will appear to you so it's one down from blocking. I know you want to be in DN's life but does her partner condone this? A break sounds good. Good luck 💓

Thank you for your kind words! Her partner thinks the sun shines out of her arse. He doesn’t say anything when she’s kicking off although we don’t think he knows the full story. She’s always been an excellent liar so we imagine she manipulates the story to him. The only time he’s ever said anything was on Boxing Day when he said ‘you’ve gone too far DS’ & then she stormed out

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AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 03/01/2025 15:58

I'm astounded you haven't done it already. The catalogue of issues is beyond belief and I'm really really surprised you've gone through them and yet still got doubts about whether you're being fair. The gift thing is ridiculous - I never expected any engagement presents! Being gracious costs nothing.

Be like Lot and never look back. Never! You will have a beautiful baby that will fulfill anything being an aunty would have given you, and that you can fully appreciate with your lovely mum.

Really, your mum needs to cut off too, although I respect that's harder for a parent. Your nephew/ niece can seek you both out in time. They should know enough about their mum by then to understand why you aren't in her life. Hopefully that gene won't be passed on.

Ladybyrd · 03/01/2025 15:59

I wouldn't announce it, but I couldn't be arsed with all of that. I think I'd avoid any family events I knew she was going to, although is that going to result in you becoming cut off?

You'll be amazed how she'll change her turn about quite liking some help once that baby arrives.

Guavafish1 · 03/01/2025 16:02

I would cut her off… you owe her nothing!

CouldItBeAnyMoreObvious · 03/01/2025 16:03

She sound as if she has MH issues and these are being exacerbated by the pregnancy.

OrwellianTimes · 03/01/2025 16:03

I’d cut her off for the PCOS paedo comments alone.

She’s a toxic narcissist.

IhadaStripeyDeckchair · 03/01/2025 16:03

TBH I think you would be unreasonable if you didn't end contact with your sister - she sounds awful.
I think uour mother should too but suspect that the imminent GC will stop her from.cutting contact.

If you don't cut contact put in place strong boundaries - the minute she starts up either leave or tell her to leave (if she's in your house). If she starts doing passive aggressive social media posts I'd just post the facts, including screen shots of her messages to you.

RobertaFirmino · 03/01/2025 16:08

I hope you don't think I'm speaking out of turn here but I feel certain your DD would want her mother to be happy. You already have the strongest link possible to her and I imagine she is constantly present in your thoughts. Please don't put yourself through any more nastiness for the sake of a bond that will never need strengthening. If my comment upsets you, please tell me and I'll request a deletion.

QuickScroller · 03/01/2025 16:10

RobertaFirmino · 03/01/2025 16:08

I hope you don't think I'm speaking out of turn here but I feel certain your DD would want her mother to be happy. You already have the strongest link possible to her and I imagine she is constantly present in your thoughts. Please don't put yourself through any more nastiness for the sake of a bond that will never need strengthening. If my comment upsets you, please tell me and I'll request a deletion.

Sorry - I should have made this clear. I haven’t lost a child. By DD I meant Dad but I just realised I should have put DF. X

OP posts:
QuickScroller · 03/01/2025 16:11

QuickScroller · 03/01/2025 15:27

My DS has always been a challenging person, and it’s only gotten worse over the years. Growing up, she caused my parents a lot of stress. One particular memory that stands out is when, as a teenager, she threw my DM’s phone into a pond and destroyed ornaments that she had bought my DM for Mother’s Day, which were meant to be sentimental gifts. Our dad passed away in 2016, and I’ve always had a stronger relationship with my parents. I enjoy spending time with them, but my DS never did, which led to jealousy. She’s often accused me of being the “favourite,” which has led to a lot of bullying behaviour from her. She would lie about things to make me look bad—one time, a couple of years ago, I asked for a £40 jacket for Christmas (our budget was £50), and she told my DM I’d asked for a £150 one, even though I had shown my DM the link to the £40 jacket, just to make me look bad.

Fast forward to now—she’s 33, I’m 29, and she’s pregnant with her first DC, due in February. Her behaviour has only gotten worse, especially during her pregnancy. She and her fiancé got engaged last year, and my DM organised a family celebration dinner for a week later. My DS made a huge fuss about us not sending her a congratulations card in the post(even though we had both bought one to give her in person at the meal). She threw such a tantrum about the cards that she refused to attend the dinner, which ended up being cancelled and my DM losing the deposit - she didn’t speak to my DM
for 4 months after this (because of a card). She also went ballistic at me and my DM because we didn’t get her an engagement gift. It got to the point where I ended up sending £100 in vouchers just to stop the constant nasty messages, but I regret it.

Her behaviour has only worsened during her pregnancy. She’s become abusive over the smallest things and regularly accuses me of not sticking up for her. After an argument with our DM, for no reason, she bombarded me with texts, and when I calmly explained I wasn’t going to get involved (since last time I did, she cut me off for months), she blocked me for three months after sending the nastiest abusive texts ever. I hadn’t seen her for a couple of months, but I saw her on Boxing Day. She moaned about the presents my DM got her saying they weren’t very expensive and then moaned about the food. I tried to be supportive about the pregnancy, but it was hard. The day ended with me saying ‘I can’t wait to be an auntie’ to her telling me, “Well, it’s my baby. You won’t be spending any time alone with it.” When I asked why, she said, “You have PCOS, if you were meant to be around children, you’d be fertile.” She also called me a “pedo” for wanting to be around the baby. I was devastated, especially since she knows how much I want to be a DM myself and how hard I’ve worked to improve my chances of conceiving (I haven’t started trying yet). She also told my DM she couldn’t be around the baby because she’s “too old” (60s, works full time, and goes to the gym three times a week) and can’t be trusted around babies. She regularly tells my mum to ‘go die ’. The disrespect she has is disgusting and I’m sick of it.

I had major surgery in August, and when she came round, I needed help answering the door, she refused to answer the door because was “3 months pregnant,” leaving me to struggle to get up and walk, 3 days after the operation.

This constant bullying and manipulation have drained me, and I’m exhausted. These are just a few examples, but they reflect years of toxic behavior from her and I could write pages and pages of everything she has done.

So, AIBU if I cut her out of my life? Part of me feels guilty because I want to have a relationship with my DN when he’s born, he feels like a link to my DD who passed, but I feel like her behaviour is seriously affecting my mental health. Any advice would be appreciated.

When I say link to my DD - it should say DF who passed away. I haven’t lost a child

OP posts:
MyNavyPombear · 03/01/2025 16:11

YANBU for cutting this woman out of your life. Sometimes it’s just not worth it. Feel sorry for her child though.

MumChp · 03/01/2025 16:15

Bumblingbee101 · 03/01/2025 15:51

All I can say is hugs to you OP. You and your mum have been through the ringer. I'm so sorry to read about your loss as well. It sounds like your DS is very self absorbed, used her engagement as leverage and now her baby to get what she wants. How does your mum feel? I think NC for a bit would help. You can take a break on social media (she won't know) but none of her posts will appear to you so it's one down from blocking. I know you want to be in DN's life but does her partner condone this? A break sounds good. Good luck 💓

You won’t be spending any time alone with it.” When I asked why, she said, “You have PCOS, if you were meant to be around children, you’d be fertile.” She also called me a “pedo” for wanting to be around the baby. I was devastated, especially since she knows how much I want to be a DM myself and how hard I’ve worked to improve my chances of conceiving (I haven’t started trying yet).

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Goodbuy sister. No way! NC now.

I have pcos/endometrios and we have 3 children. Yes, the road ro be a family was harder than avarage but pedo? She is vile.

femfemlicious · 03/01/2025 16:18

Block her immediately. She sounds mentally unwell. You don't have to put up with it

therewasafishinthepercolator · 03/01/2025 16:24

I really feel for you and your poor mum. You have the patience of a saint to have put up with her as long as you have - she sounds horrible. Disgusting comments.

As pp said you'd be unreasonable to keep her in your life. Put distance between you now. Go nc.

It is sad that you won't have a relationship with your nephew but she never would let you have a healthy relationship anyway. She would definitely use the baby as a pawn and you will end up being much more hurt when she inevitably stops you seeing the child for some contrived reason she's come up with just to punish you. Best cut it off now. Save you the heartache.

Some people can't be reasoned with. Go live your life without having to deal with this toxic shit. She's not your responsibility. All the best op.

MrsGhastlyCrumb · 03/01/2025 16:26

She sounds disturbed, as others have pointed out. What is her husband like, is the relationship a good one? (Hard to imagine it could be, tbh)

Anyway, she has said and done unforgivable things, and no, you shouldn't tolerate it: you are not her punching bag and nor is your mother. I would be very worried about the poor child though. Did you know her in laws?

Xxbbbwwmmm2 · 03/01/2025 16:28

I would have stopped speaking to her the moment she said the comments about your PCOS and the disgusting vile name she called you over wanting to spend time your niece or nephew. OP cut her out of your life block her on everything and any time your mum mentions her if she stays in contact stay impartial and don’t engage over your sister. Absolutely vile can’t believe what I read.