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Marcus Fakana sentenced to a year in prison

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Zippedydodah · 30/12/2024 12:11

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I cannot believe that this lad is going to spend a year in prison- yes, I know that’s the law there, he should have known better etc, etc
I hope that the girl’s mother is ashamed of her actions.
I don’t want to think what the impact will be on Marcus 😥

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icelolly12 · 30/12/2024 15:03

hazelnutvanillalatte · 30/12/2024 15:02

I think it's disgusting that countries like Dubai are marketed this way. We wouldn't allow North Korea to be marketed as a luxury tourist destination. It makes me really angry. I know lots of countries are bad but the UAE is literally running on oppression and modern slavery.

Well obviously because North Korea isn't a tourist destination, they don't allow tourists in. Dubai is very much a tourist destination and if you follow the laws you'll be fine like the millions who visit.

Lunde · 30/12/2024 15:04

user23124 · 30/12/2024 12:30

I think that Dubai cannot have it both ways. Yes they can set the laws they wish but the UK government should slap a warning on any holiday adverts etc - "This country has extreme religious laws and you are at risk visiting unless you fully understand and accept these"
Like on cigarettes and alcohol.
The family who have lost their son for a year were hardworking good people who wanted a luxury holiday and had no idea this was the situation.
If these countries have these brutal laws we need to be very very clear with British holiday makers.
And shame on David Lammy for doing NOTHING to help his constituent - too keen on the oil money eh David?

You realise that there are many states in the USA that have an age of consent of 18?

Upstartled · 30/12/2024 15:04

TwistedWonder · 30/12/2024 14:41

They’ve been identified on X (Twitter) - they’re a British Indian family

Identified by whom? That's a bit sinister.

I love the way that people vilify the mother because it's easier than identifying the threat as the law of the country.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 30/12/2024 15:04

icelolly12 · 30/12/2024 15:03

Well obviously because North Korea isn't a tourist destination, they don't allow tourists in. Dubai is very much a tourist destination and if you follow the laws you'll be fine like the millions who visit.

Yeah just follow the rules and don't report being raped or you'll get thrown in prison.

quantumbutterfly · 30/12/2024 15:04

The mother is vindictive, controlling and quite probably racist.
The young girl involved is now 18 and legally an adult in the UK, there are organisations who can help her escape a controlling family if she has the will to do so.

Zanatdy · 30/12/2024 15:05

I genuinely hope the mother regrets her action. If i was her daughter it would 100% affect my relationship with her going forward. No doubt in my mind a racial element to her reporting this. Everyone should write to David Lammy and call him out for not helping his constituent.

Karmaisagod · 30/12/2024 15:05

A quick search on X brings up a name. No idea if it is the right one. God help this lady if is that easy to find her.

stuckdownahole · 30/12/2024 15:07

icelolly12 · 30/12/2024 14:33

I'd imagine if she is from a Muslim family then the biggest crime for her is that her Daughter has lost her 'honour' and has brought shame on the family and render her unable to get married as no longer a virgin.

To Westerners this might seem a very misogynistic way of thinking, but it does explain her perspective.

I think it's pretty obvious that the family is Sikh, assuming that the mother / daughter named on X and other sites have been correctly identified. There can be a misogynistic focus on "honour" in Sikh culture.

icelolly12 · 30/12/2024 15:07

Zanatdy · 30/12/2024 15:05

I genuinely hope the mother regrets her action. If i was her daughter it would 100% affect my relationship with her going forward. No doubt in my mind a racial element to her reporting this. Everyone should write to David Lammy and call him out for not helping his constituent.

His constituent broke the law, what do you expect him to do?

Jingleballs2 · 30/12/2024 15:07

I don't know the ins and outs of it, but chances are the boy wouldn't have known the laws going into the situation. I do feel bad for him even though yes technically he broke the law, it was consensual with the girl, and he probably assumed she was of legal age. You have to be careful taking holidays in countries like dubai

UndermyShoeJoe · 30/12/2024 15:08

Like it or not an adult broke the law of a country and now faces the punishment for it.

If you agree with the law or not is really not up for discussion. You vote with your feet if you don’t agree with the law and don’t visit those places.

As adult should always know the laws they may come into contact with of a country they are visiting. It’s not just Dubai with an older age of consent or a lower one.

We don’t argue the side of people who break our laws due to being foreign nationals, Or rather most law abiding people don’t.

TurquoiseDress · 30/12/2024 15:09

Jingleballs2 · 30/12/2024 15:07

I don't know the ins and outs of it, but chances are the boy wouldn't have known the laws going into the situation. I do feel bad for him even though yes technically he broke the law, it was consensual with the girl, and he probably assumed she was of legal age. You have to be careful taking holidays in countries like dubai

Precisely this

icelolly12 · 30/12/2024 15:12

Feel somewhat bad for him, but it's a lesson and a warning to other holiday makers.

user23124 · 30/12/2024 15:13

Lunde · 30/12/2024 15:04

You realise that there are many states in the USA that have an age of consent of 18?

They do NOT lock up 18 yos for a year for having consensual sex in these states. And those states are not rammed down our throats as luxury holidays destinations on every billboard/TV ad. It is wildly different.

PandoraSox · 30/12/2024 15:13

UndermyShoeJoe · 30/12/2024 15:08

Like it or not an adult broke the law of a country and now faces the punishment for it.

If you agree with the law or not is really not up for discussion. You vote with your feet if you don’t agree with the law and don’t visit those places.

As adult should always know the laws they may come into contact with of a country they are visiting. It’s not just Dubai with an older age of consent or a lower one.

We don’t argue the side of people who break our laws due to being foreign nationals, Or rather most law abiding people don’t.

I don't think anyone disagrees with the notion that when you are in another country, you respect the laws of the land. If the authorities had caught him and the girl having sex, or the parents and girl were Dubai citizens and had reported him, it would be different, though still very unfair as the girl was very nearly 18.

What pisses people off is this mother reported Marcus from the UK out of spite.

Lovelysummerdays · 30/12/2024 15:17

Whilst I feel for the young man, I do think actually harsher laws for sexual offences aren’t such a bad idea. Any grooming of a minor or images of child sex abuse or sex with a minor will be treated harshly there.

I do wonder if the girls from Rotherham etc had been automatically treated by police as victims instead of being considered “problematic” if it would of changed things for them.

ohdelay · 30/12/2024 15:18

It's a shame and the mother was vindictive, but he broke their law. People saying no law has been broken really shouldn't travel abroad as they're not ready. There are loads of Brits regularly imprisoned there for things that would be considered minor or not even crimes here. It is well known.

user23124 · 30/12/2024 15:19

DD UK state school organised a NETBALL trip to Dubai - funded using PTA raised money. DD and a few others raised bloody hell over it - they didn't think it was appropriate to take a FREE school trip to Dubai where the resident girls were not allowed to play netball - let alone compete and travel. The Head Teacher mocked them as being "ridiculous" and said Dubai was a "Modern luxury tourist centre" he should know, he went ever year.

The attitude is horrendous and shows zero regard of the rights of women and gay people. I find anyone who holidays in Dubai to be ignorant, naive, or appalling.

Topsyturvy78 · 30/12/2024 15:23

The mother sounds like a right control freak. She will push her daughter away then wonder why she doesn't see much of her once she's left home.

Delatron · 30/12/2024 15:24

Poor lad. Lots of smug, nasty people on here. No Dubai probably isn’t the best place to visit. I, for one, would never take my teenage sons there. Especially now. Do we all thoroughly research all the laws of every country we visit? Was it up to him to research this or his family? Either way I have nothing but sympathy for him.

I definitely agree there needs to be more publicity about what you can get thrown in jail for in Dubai. I would love their tourist industry to take a hit.

Ihavenoclu · 30/12/2024 15:25

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stuckdownahole · 30/12/2024 15:26

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 30/12/2024 14:09

The family handled it badly though. Instead of banging on about how the law was ‘wrong’ ( because they didn’t agree with it), the Dubai authorities were unreasonable etc etc, they should have grovelled , said sorry, said he was an ignorant idiot….(which I expect was what the consulate was saying behind the scenes, not because they believed it, but because they wanted to get the accused off and home).

When he was remanded before the formal judgement, they doubled down on the ‘unfair’ narrative. So he’s in prison. They could have praised the gouvernement for giving the minimum sentence, and I expect he would have been pardoned.

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I agree. I've worked in a Gulf country and you have to understand the mentality of the nationals, who in several such states / emirates are outnumbered by foreign workers. They are proud of their nation, they are proud of their leaders and will always publicly defend the decisions their leaders make although they may debate them among friends and family. Furthermore, if something is haram (not allowed in Islam) then that's it, no point in debating the subject.

There is an insecurity about the people there. Almost all the nationals are wealthy, but are less educated than the Western expats they work alongside. This insecurity goes right to the top and the way to get around a Sheikh or person in authority is to emphasise how much you respect their wisdom, to a degree that would seem obviously fake and ingratiating to a Westerner.

Social media is heavily monitored and everyone knows it. I was kicked off a local expat Facebook group for making some aside like "as everyone knows, we aren't allowed to criticise the government".

Despite knowing all that, I feel very sorry for Marcus because at the end of the day it was my free choice to work there and to abide by their rules and social conventions. His family were lured by the public image that Dubai promotes as a liberal Western environment.

Bearjok · 30/12/2024 15:26
  1. FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE COUNTRY YOU ARE IN.
  2. A parent is allowed to exercise their right to parent. You could say the parents are awful but…
  3. hate going to strict countries and still don’t understand why people would go to them if they are “young and stupid” and do not want to follow their rules. At the end of the day it’s a great lesson for him.
  4. Tell me you are Boy mums without telling me you are boy moms. ( don’t bother lying)
  5. Your job as a parent is to prepare your child and you did nots

lastly argue with yourselves .

nogginatemycat · 30/12/2024 15:27

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I agree the idot should not have broken the law in Dubai, entierly agree with your sentiments about him 😁👊

TizerorFizz · 30/12/2024 15:28

@ohdelay The DD broke the law too!

Everyone is forgetting she was 17. That’s also under age. The mother waited until her DD was 18 before saying anything, I understand. She’s a piece of work!

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