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Or are my two best friends being awful to me?

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lonelyfriend · 29/12/2024 14:25

I have two best friends, let’s call them Kayla and Sophia. I met both at uni, and we were really close for years. Over time, Kayla and Sophia drifted apart but stayed polite and friendly when they see each other. Now that we’re in our early 30s, it feels like both of them are being pretty crappy friends. Or am I just expecting too much?

We’re all very different people. I’m not interested in getting married or having kids anytime soon. I’ve got a boyfriend, and we’re both focused on our careers and love traveling. We usually do 5–7 budget friendly trips a year (cheap flights and hotels), which lets us see more places. We split everything 50/50, which works perfectly for us.

Kayla

Kayla was never super career focused at uni. She always said her dream was to find love, have kids, and work in a job with a good work life balance. A few years after we graduated, she met a guy who’s about 10 years older, very successful, and from a wealthy family. He’s set to inherit a multimillion-pound business and already earns a high salary working for it. From what I’ve seen and heard, he’s kind, funny, and really loves her. They got married quickly and now have two kids.

These days, though, Kayla is always making comments that get on my nerves. If I mention that my boyfriend and I split costs, she’ll say stuff like, “He makes you go 50/50? He’s supposed to be… the man… no?” Or if we’re chatting about skincare, she’ll go, “Be careful in the sun, it ages you. Beauty is our most important asset as women!”

She also completely brushes off anything nice I say about my boyfriend. For example, i said that I generally find it attractive when a man is good at DIY, she laughed and said, “Better yet, if he earned more, he could hire the best professionals.” At Christmas, I mentioned I’d rather go on holiday with my boyfriend (splitting the cost) than get a fancy gift, and she basically said, “If you act like you don’t need anything, you’ll never get anything. You need to motivate him to give you more.”

Her whole vibe is that a man’s worth is based on how much he provides, women should use their looks to marry rich, and women who work or don’t want kids are just weird and will end up miserable because we’re biologically programmed to seek out a mate who can provide so we raise kids and look after the home, not slave away.

Sophia

Sophia is a different story, she feels like she’s always trying to one-up me. She’ll make comments in front of my boyfriend like, “Aww, how come you two aren’t married yet?” even though she knows I don’t want to get married. Before we moved in together, she’d constantly say, “It’s funny you two don’t live together,” even though we had personal reasons for waiting.

It’s the same with work. I have a good job and I’m happy, but I’m not chasing big promotions or massive paychecks. Sophia won’t stop with stuff like, “I just got a promotion, why don’t you move somewhere you could earn more?” or “Don’t you want to work for a bigger company with more opportunities?” It always feels like she’s trying to prove she’s better than me.

Am I Overthinking?

Am I expecting too much from them? Or are they just being weird? I’m starting to feel like I’m losing both of my best friends, and it’s hard because I don’t have many other close friends. How do I handle this?

OP posts:
Mydogisamassivetwat · 03/01/2025 10:10

Yeah, I couldn’t be arsed.

I’m in my mid 40s now and I left shit like that behind in my early 20s. What a load of hard work.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 03/01/2025 10:11

I'd drop them both. Kayla first, with her sexist bullshit.

aCatCalledFawkes · 03/01/2025 10:14

I don't think they are being mean as such. But they do seem to be seeking validation for the life choices that they have made by trying to tell you how you could improve your life - sometimes that's a symbol of people who aren't very happy in themselves or need some sort of adoration back which presumably you don't have for them as neither lifestyles appeal to you.
I do think though if you're taking time out to focus on your career it's not a bad thing to look at promotions, I spent to long in one place believing it was the only place I could work before moving in to the private sector and absolutely loving it.

Fluffyholeysocks · 03/01/2025 10:15

You sound like you have all drifted apart and now have different values. If you want to put them in their place but fairly nicely when they say 'why are you still living apart/why are you paying 50/50' you say 'I couldn't live any other way, I didn't go to Uni to be beholden to a man financially - but you can and that's fine! We're all different!' No one is 'right' , everyone is different.

Owly11 · 03/01/2025 10:16

These are not real friends they are people who use you to feel better about themselves. It's time to move on and find more like minded friends.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 03/01/2025 10:27

Sounds like you've all just drifted apart, and become very different people with different lifestyles.

You don't really like the people they've become, so why keep trying to hang on to them?

LarkinAboot · 03/01/2025 10:33

You're not friends any of you.
That's not what friendship looks like or feels like.

RubyOrca · 03/01/2025 10:34

if that’s what you think of your friends maybe best to go find people you like.

They sound like badly portrayed stereotypes - but if that’s the picture of them you have in your head you clearly don’t like or respect them.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 03/01/2025 10:36

She'll say "Beauty is our most important asset as women!”

You jumped the shark here. It was shaping up so well as a 90s style chicklit novel too!

BunnyLake · 03/01/2025 10:54

You've grown apart. The first one would drive me particularly mad. As someone who was once in a very financially privileged position thanks to man, I would never ever want to be reliant on one again. If her DH ever leaves her she is going to be in for a big reality check!

Some people are not meant to be in your life forever and I would say this is true for these ‘friends’.

Either slow fade or tell them straight, whichever you feel more comfortable with but I’d drop them one way or another.

LinaLouLa · 03/01/2025 10:59

lonelyfriend · 29/12/2024 14:25

I have two best friends, let’s call them Kayla and Sophia. I met both at uni, and we were really close for years. Over time, Kayla and Sophia drifted apart but stayed polite and friendly when they see each other. Now that we’re in our early 30s, it feels like both of them are being pretty crappy friends. Or am I just expecting too much?

We’re all very different people. I’m not interested in getting married or having kids anytime soon. I’ve got a boyfriend, and we’re both focused on our careers and love traveling. We usually do 5–7 budget friendly trips a year (cheap flights and hotels), which lets us see more places. We split everything 50/50, which works perfectly for us.

Kayla

Kayla was never super career focused at uni. She always said her dream was to find love, have kids, and work in a job with a good work life balance. A few years after we graduated, she met a guy who’s about 10 years older, very successful, and from a wealthy family. He’s set to inherit a multimillion-pound business and already earns a high salary working for it. From what I’ve seen and heard, he’s kind, funny, and really loves her. They got married quickly and now have two kids.

These days, though, Kayla is always making comments that get on my nerves. If I mention that my boyfriend and I split costs, she’ll say stuff like, “He makes you go 50/50? He’s supposed to be… the man… no?” Or if we’re chatting about skincare, she’ll go, “Be careful in the sun, it ages you. Beauty is our most important asset as women!”

She also completely brushes off anything nice I say about my boyfriend. For example, i said that I generally find it attractive when a man is good at DIY, she laughed and said, “Better yet, if he earned more, he could hire the best professionals.” At Christmas, I mentioned I’d rather go on holiday with my boyfriend (splitting the cost) than get a fancy gift, and she basically said, “If you act like you don’t need anything, you’ll never get anything. You need to motivate him to give you more.”

Her whole vibe is that a man’s worth is based on how much he provides, women should use their looks to marry rich, and women who work or don’t want kids are just weird and will end up miserable because we’re biologically programmed to seek out a mate who can provide so we raise kids and look after the home, not slave away.

Sophia

Sophia is a different story, she feels like she’s always trying to one-up me. She’ll make comments in front of my boyfriend like, “Aww, how come you two aren’t married yet?” even though she knows I don’t want to get married. Before we moved in together, she’d constantly say, “It’s funny you two don’t live together,” even though we had personal reasons for waiting.

It’s the same with work. I have a good job and I’m happy, but I’m not chasing big promotions or massive paychecks. Sophia won’t stop with stuff like, “I just got a promotion, why don’t you move somewhere you could earn more?” or “Don’t you want to work for a bigger company with more opportunities?” It always feels like she’s trying to prove she’s better than me.

Am I Overthinking?

Am I expecting too much from them? Or are they just being weird? I’m starting to feel like I’m losing both of my best friends, and it’s hard because I don’t have many other close friends. How do I handle this?

They're both arseholes who enjoy putting you down and trying to make you feel rubbish about yourself and your life. Walk away from this non friendship.

Errors · 03/01/2025 11:03

They both sound awful, tedious and boring.

Youve drifted apart. Sounds like you’ve grown as a person and they haven’t. Time to get rid. Don’t waste your energy on being around people that bring you down.

Disturbia81 · 03/01/2025 11:04

The first one sounds like an awful person. Beauty is our greatest asset!? Just ditch them, you don't need to stay friends just because of shared history

Lavenderblossoms · 03/01/2025 11:14

It sounds to me they are jealous that you are happy. Back off from them or just tell them gently don't want the friendship anymore.

Friendships are not supposed to make you feel like shit.

Crazybaby123 · 03/01/2025 11:32

You have drifted apart, they don't understand your lifestyle and outlook and you don't understand theirs. They are wrapped up in what they see as their success and they don't understand you. You don't understand them, Kayla sounds like my mum but she is my family and I live her but I don't choose friends with that view on life. I have drifted apart from various friends over the years, it happens. If you still like them anyway that's fine and you can have a more distanced relationship that is based on your shared uni experience, but you don't need them as best friends as you have nothing in common so need to soend time finding people you can connect with a shared outlook on life. One of them will undoubtedly get divorced at some point and express that she hated her fake life... this also definitely happens...it might take a while though

comeundone · 03/01/2025 12:41

Is this a character treatment for a novel you're thinking of writing? If so, you need to work harder on nuance and develop a narrative about why these people were originally friends, and how you'll get some or all of them to move through exciting challenges to renewed shared joy in the future. If not, move on and gently get rid of these tragic stereotyped emotional vampires. In real life we don't need to announce we're "dumping" former friends, we just don't give them time and space to impact us any longer.

Deathraystare · 03/01/2025 13:15

Neither seem tht confident in themselves. The first would probably die without a man to spend money on her. Without him, she is nothing. This is what she feels.

The second needs continual pats on the back (promotions). Let them get on with their sorry lives and you continue happily with yours!

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