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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

It's a bloody dog!

571 replies

MammaKel · 27/12/2024 16:40

Ugh, I didn't realise how batshit crazy people were about their "furbabies."

We went to a family gathering yesterday where SIL and BIL and their DDog were - they don't have kids, and DDog is their baby but omg.

I could get past the calling each other mummy and daddy, calling my in laws grandma and grandpa and telling my kids he was their fur cousin and showing us pictures of taking him to see " Santa Paws" but there were two instances that genuinely made me cringe a bit ..

We were exchanging gifts, and they asked me where DDogs were, I laughed because I thought they were joking, but nope, totally serious and was upset he'd be left out, so I apologised (for some reason) and moved on very quickly..

The next one was that the dog was getting a bit agitated, and they said he was tired and getting a bit cranky, so they were leaving so he could have a nap..

I'm mostly being light-hearted, and I'm an animal lover (have 4 cats), but I just didn't realise how far it went AIBU or is this just the norm now?

OP posts:
Floralnomad · 27/12/2024 20:29

LifesTooShortForYourNonsense · 27/12/2024 20:21

It’s cringy and weird and yes, can lead to problems. I think it blurs the line of responsibility - dog owners need to train and discipline appropriately, and know they are always pets and second to humans - they are not equal. I’ve worked with people who can’t come in today ‘because the dog sitter hasn’t arrived’ ‘they have to go to the vet’ etc. and been upset to be told no dice.

And when they die! Anyone knows full well you will outlive any pet when you take them on, blurring that line of owner/parent is a massive mistake, no Claire, you don’t get bereavement leave for a shitzpoo. The level of grief is screwing people up. It should not be like losing a child.

Ive had a dog, and a load of cats - they are pets, I don’t know or care when their birthday is (and neither do they), they have no idea what Christmas is. They have a great life and I enjoy being their owner.

My dog knew exactly what Christmas was and the fact that your pets die and you just carry on just means that they haven’t touched your life in the same way as somebody elses pet has touched theirs . My lovely dog , and yes I was his mum , died in November , our lives have changed forever and I don’t care whether you can or cannot understand that . The grief we feel at his loss is no less because he wasn’t human , he was part of our family for over 14 yrs , we have his ashes and he will stay with me forever .

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 27/12/2024 20:30

LifesTooShortForYourNonsense · 27/12/2024 20:21

It’s cringy and weird and yes, can lead to problems. I think it blurs the line of responsibility - dog owners need to train and discipline appropriately, and know they are always pets and second to humans - they are not equal. I’ve worked with people who can’t come in today ‘because the dog sitter hasn’t arrived’ ‘they have to go to the vet’ etc. and been upset to be told no dice.

And when they die! Anyone knows full well you will outlive any pet when you take them on, blurring that line of owner/parent is a massive mistake, no Claire, you don’t get bereavement leave for a shitzpoo. The level of grief is screwing people up. It should not be like losing a child.

Ive had a dog, and a load of cats - they are pets, I don’t know or care when their birthday is (and neither do they), they have no idea what Christmas is. They have a great life and I enjoy being their owner.

Luckily for us, my workplace is full of people who actually love their pets and therefore understand that, regardless of whether you treat them as a dog or a child, you will be impacted when they die. You have to be very hard hearted to not grieve them.

Sophiasguitar · 27/12/2024 20:33

The more posts I read by uptight, sanctimonious, unfunny mumsnetters, the more I love my dog.

HereForTheAnimals · 27/12/2024 20:34

MammaKel · 27/12/2024 20:24

Both can be true?

People can refer to themselves as an animals "mummy" or "daddy" and still neglect and abuse them ( whether it's indirectly or on purpose).

Yes, you are quite right, but which would upset you more?

Arrivederla · 27/12/2024 20:40

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 27/12/2024 20:02

Why? Who decides what is considered "batshit"?

In my day to day life that'll be me, love. Hope that's OK.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 27/12/2024 20:41

Arrivederla · 27/12/2024 20:40

In my day to day life that'll be me, love. Hope that's OK.

But this isn't you life, it's someone else's. So leave them be to live how they like. Love.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 27/12/2024 20:42

Weird and unnecessary to you @MammaKel but perhaps not to a person whose only companion is their pet. Or their therapy dog.

BoldBlueZebra · 27/12/2024 20:42

Arrivederla · 27/12/2024 20:40

In my day to day life that'll be me, love. Hope that's OK.

thankfully you aren’t in charge of shite all then

Arrivederla · 27/12/2024 20:42

HereForTheAnimals · 27/12/2024 20:34

Yes, you are quite right, but which would upset you more?

Why does that matter?? It's got absolutely nothing to do with this thread!!

Jaggy1 · 27/12/2024 20:42

HereForTheAnimals · 27/12/2024 20:34

Yes, you are quite right, but which would upset you more?

obviously the neglectful abusive neighbours? Which is really irrelevant because the OP didn’t say that she dislikes people being ott in loving their dogs more than she dislikes abusive owners.
you can find people who love their dogs annoying but let them be and hate abusers at the same time it’s a daft question.

Arrivederla · 27/12/2024 20:43

BoldBlueZebra · 27/12/2024 20:42

thankfully you aren’t in charge of shite all then

Yes, I'm in charge of me, my life and my reactions, so if I think something's batshit then I'll say so.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 27/12/2024 20:45

Arrivederla · 27/12/2024 20:40

In my day to day life that'll be me, love. Hope that's OK.

Interesting that it's not okay to call your own pet "baby" but is seemingly fine to call a stranger "love"...

BoldBlueZebra · 27/12/2024 20:45

Arrivederla · 27/12/2024 20:43

Yes, I'm in charge of me, my life and my reactions, so if I think something's batshit then I'll say so.

well that’s good I was worried you thought that you have influence over others but if it’s just you crack on poppet

Arrivederla · 27/12/2024 20:46

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 27/12/2024 20:41

But this isn't you life, it's someone else's. So leave them be to live how they like. Love.

Maybe sort your grammar out before you reply on here, or you'll appear even more nutty than you already do if that's possible

BoldBlueZebra · 27/12/2024 20:46

And I will carry on referring to my dogs how I like knowing that you and others who are like you and judge me for my care of them don’t know or understand the joy and purpose they bring to my life.

MammaKel · 27/12/2024 20:47

Again, I think there's been a misunderstanding in my thread.

I don't care how much you love your dog, I don't care how you treat your dog (within reason). However, expecting other people to indulge you is what's weird and unnecessary. Just because you love an animal and think it's equal to a human, whether it be a dog or a snail, you can't expect everyone to do that.

I've said I love animals and would never in a million years see one neglected or abused, just because I don't agree with it being treated equal to a child doesn't mean I wish any harm.

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1dayatatime · 27/12/2024 20:47

ExtraOnions · 27/12/2024 17:16

The humanisation of dogs is part of the reason there are so many badly trained dogs. They are not humans, they don’t have same cognitive ability, feelings, executive brain function etc. It’s not really fair on the dogs, they need rules and a pack structure .. can be quite anxiety inducing in them, not to be treated like a dog.

Exactly- I was told by my grandfather at a young age that dogs are pack animals and need a pack leader.

If you fail to discipline your dog and make clear in no uncertain terms that you are the pack leader then they will assume that role for themselves.

Painauraison · 27/12/2024 20:47

I think it's ridiculous!
MIL and SIL have little yappy dogs but no kids. We go for Christmas and my kids get told off for opening their presents on the floor despite the fact there are not enough seats, because the dogs might get it. Asked if the dogs could be put the other side of the gate then but they can't apparently. Then the dog laying down on the dinner table....All chat between MIL and SIL about the dogs, interrupt a conversation because look how cute little fluffy is. Can't come to our house because we are no dogs so won't be going there for Christmas anymore...oh and if little fluffy nips a child it's OK, it's just playing.

BoldBlueZebra · 27/12/2024 20:49

1dayatatime · 27/12/2024 20:47

Exactly- I was told by my grandfather at a young age that dogs are pack animals and need a pack leader.

If you fail to discipline your dog and make clear in no uncertain terms that you are the pack leader then they will assume that role for themselves.

Pack theory has been widely discredited and disproven and is the basis for most training practices that are built on cruelty

SapphireOpal · 27/12/2024 20:51

1dayatatime · 27/12/2024 20:47

Exactly- I was told by my grandfather at a young age that dogs are pack animals and need a pack leader.

If you fail to discipline your dog and make clear in no uncertain terms that you are the pack leader then they will assume that role for themselves.

Pack theory is also total bollocks - any dog trainer worth their salt doesn't use it nowadays.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 27/12/2024 20:52

Arrivederla · 27/12/2024 20:46

Maybe sort your grammar out before you reply on here, or you'll appear even more nutty than you already do if that's possible

😂

I missed a letter "r" because my phone does strange things with words and I don't always catch them, and that is what you've chosen to say will make me seem "more nutty"? More nutty than suggesting it's not batshit to allow people to do what they like if it isn't hurting anyone?

I think you're the one coming across as "nutty", love.

NotAnotherPylon · 27/12/2024 20:53

People talking to and about their dogs as if they were human makes me cringe from the inside out. But I keep my views to myself and let them get on with it as it's none of my business. But if they ever expected me to join in or criticised my lack of involvement and interaction, quite frankly, I wouldn't hold back in letting them know what utter plonkers they are.

CoubousAndTourmalet · 27/12/2024 20:54

1dayatatime · 27/12/2024 20:47

Exactly- I was told by my grandfather at a young age that dogs are pack animals and need a pack leader.

If you fail to discipline your dog and make clear in no uncertain terms that you are the pack leader then they will assume that role for themselves.

Pack theory was discredited/debunked years ago.

chattyness · 27/12/2024 20:57

Firstly, he's not my dog he's my fur son 🤣and yes we buy him presents, lots of them. We're his mum and dad & yes we are batshit crazy about him. We don't expect anyone else to buy him gifts nor do we take him to anyone else's house or anywhere else that a dog wouldn't be welcomed. Equally visitors must understand that this is his home and he's not going to be shut away in another room or outside while they are here, so if they don't like dogs, they don't have to visit.

Catpuss66 · 27/12/2024 20:57

1dayatatime · 27/12/2024 20:47

Exactly- I was told by my grandfather at a young age that dogs are pack animals and need a pack leader.

If you fail to discipline your dog and make clear in no uncertain terms that you are the pack leader then they will assume that role for themselves.

Same can be said for children, now look where we are.
my dog is well trained & still goes to training.