Electric scooter kid went flying after hitting my car door

[LoveMyPiano]

I was just about to get out of my car - door opening onto the pavement - this afternoon, not dark by any stretch of the imagination, although the car door does have a light that stays on even when ignition off.
I had seen a girl (I think I know her, she's 8 or 9) go zooming past "up" the road - wearing black, on her no-doubt Christmas present, large electric scooter.
I pushed the door open, not fully, an was about to get out when I heard a skidding sound and she hit the car door and went flying onto the ground.
When I look afterwards, the tyre marks were about 2/3 of the way across the pavement, closer to my car. Had the door been fully opened, it would have been badly damaged, I think - or she might have been.
She rolled on the ground but didn't hit her head (no helmet) and seemed to want to check her scooter thoroughly herself.

I didn't say sorry - more like "Oh God!" - and checked she was OK, briefly saying that she was very difficult to see, but that's all, even though I think a whole lot more.
This will no doubt come back to me as "she was knocked off her scooter by that woman up the road" etc - but AIBU to think it was her own fault, even allowing for the fact she is a young child?

@LoveMyPiano what does your professional medical "angel" daughter think about this incident?

You just can't help yourself, can you? (Interesting first post though, as they say)

Are you actually being serious? And you called a child pudgy, that is a name. If you want to be clinical about it say overweight. You sound abhorrent.

Report it online stop being so ridiculous constantly.

I have never said FERAL (read my posts, if you care to - or not).
Pudgy, chubby (I was all of those when I was 8 - but not "so") - I have hardly said any of the other things that may apply, as not really relevant.
Their behaviour has been as I have described, and it is brats. (I was also called Brat - a spoilt brat actually - to my face, age 8 or even less, when I was given a piano - and by a member of the family who sold it to us....)
And yes, there is a "them and us" - created largely by my being a Misfit in this area.

She wasn't hurt - she "bounced" right back up. But I did take note that she did not bang her head as far as I could see, that she stood up fine, and said she was "OK" (I asked!) but she was very concerned for the welfare of the scooter (not hers maybe....? her sister's....? before anyone says that I am accusing her of stealing it). i am also aware that adrenaline may have masked any pain, which might have come on later. I am, though, not psychic. I hope she's OK - but I also hope that she will be more cautious after this.

It did happen - I would say that I am the one getting goaded on here - I would not waste my time or energy making something like this up.
I said I'm waiting for the AA - I didn't really think it would be necessary, but comments on here have made me think again.

(Where would Mumsnet be without posts that could have asked elsewhere rather than on this great site and the AIBU forum especially?)

I said that she is an Angel because that's a term used for Nurses is it not?

She's away overseas, and I'm not involving her.

Not all of them no. And I doubt any daughter of yours is an angel if you had any hand in bringing her up 👍

@ForReasonsUnknown

Pudgy is not a "name" (noun). It's an informal adjective.

As is name-calling, sorry thought you’d be smart enough to infer that but clearly not. I’ll be extra precise going forward my love xx

I didn't say that is was for "all of them".
She is her own person, and I brought her up wonderfully.
She is a Palliative Care Nurse, and is everything you could wish for in that setting and in life in general
You should just shut up being so offensive, you are crossing a line and you know it.

Oh, you've lost me now with that....
Yes, being precise would be good, even with nasty remarks and allegations.

Of course you did. I’m not the one who’s started a thread where I’ve hit a child with a car door then proceeded to call her a brat and “pudgy”. If you don’t like people being “so offensive” then check your own behaviour first. You are acting like an entitled weirdo. Report the incident to the police online if you don’t want to be waiting on hold and maybe think about taking some responsibility for your own actions. Oh, and I won’t shut up when you’re literally bullying a young child.

You are matching me with the repulsive remarks.
I'm not going to prove to or relay to you how I brought my daughter up; how she has turned out is from a combination of things, and it may well be despite me and her Father. She's lovely though, and I did have a hand in that.

I am NOT going to the child's face and calling her "names" or making nasty remarks in person. Unlike how she and others are towards me - for which there was no reason whatsoever. If there is any bullying, "they started it"....🙄

Yes you should. In spite of electric scooters being illegal on pavements. Around here there are electric bikes being ridden at speed on them and no stopping at crossings or lights. I am extremely mindful of this and very careful when out and about. You should anticipate possible scenarios and that is definitely one these days.

I’m shocked that you said you didn’t want to be responsible for this child. She is an 8 year old who was in collision with your car. In addition, you should report it to your insurers even if you don’t intend to make a claim and the damage is minimal. You don’t know if she has a hidden injury and that might come back to bite you.

I really wouldn't tell your insurers. It will achieve nothing but put your premiums up. It's not like it was a hit and run! Your car was still parked there and youve seen the kid in the street since and she's fine.

Be wary of kids on illegal scooters in future though. Where there is one kid with a scooter there are bound to be more arriving from the sales shortly.....

You are suggesting that all accidents are the fault of the person who performed the action.

You don't seem to understand what accidents are.

If someone ran out in between cars into your path it wouldn't be your fault.

If someone is dressed in black in with no lights riding super fast and appearing suddenly on the pavement then similarly it's not the drivers fault.

If you don’t want people talking about your child then don’t speak so disgustingly about other people’s children. Seriously, grow up and take some accountability for your actions. You can’t cry about people being mean when you’re behaving like this.

If someone ran out in between cars into your path it wouldn't be your fault.

Yes, but if an eight year old child did this and I hit them, I would rush to make sure they were OK and show concern for them, obviously.

I would not go on MN to call them pudgy and a brat.

People lesser than you that all look alike

Hmmmm 🤔

I was told it is always the fault of the person opening the car door if someone then crashes into it.
Don't try to shift the blame to the child or their parents. Personally I think you should be extra aware if a child is anywhere in your vicinity. They are obviously less aware

I voted YANBU but would say (as someone who passed recently) we as motorists have to take greater care to lower hierarchy road users (yes including illegal scooter users and anyone else in a pavement). If you do Dutch reach usually then fair enough. I assume she was in your blind spot when you opened the door? Otherwise she must have been in the wing mirror? If the child didn't seem in brutal pain or to be finger pointing at the time then that is a good start. You do have third party insurance obviously as well no doubt, in case anything comes of it. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

That isn't true. In 'dooring' incidents, a cyclist etc. is at fault if they were negligent. This includes going too fast, being too close to the car, no night safety gear and using the pavement.

Wing mirrors are a thing FFS. Fancy blaming a child for your lack of ability to use one correctly. Shame 😔

Right.. shame on me. I HAD looked in the DOOR and rear view mirror, about 2 - 3 seconds before starting to get out. Screech - bang - crash

@LoveMyPiano I mean this in the kindest way but you alluded earlier to having lost a daughter and I'm wondering if you're struggling with this and this is showing up as anger and disdain towards others. You have my sincere condolences.