Gin night ruined by my son?

[Becc91]

So my DS came back from Bristol Uni (with a mullet no less 😣) and told me off in front of my girl friends - all for singing Do They Know It's Christmas?
Apparently one term of a politics degree makes him qualified to tell me what I can and can't sing in my own home after a few gins. Feeling quite hurt and embarrassed as this all happened in front of my friends.

I don't see what I've done wrong but I don't want to be ignorant, is it just me??
Opinions wanted , thanks xx and merry christmas

Modern virtue signalling is condemning others for virtue signalling.

The famine in Ethiopia was a humanitarian catastrophe. Many was needed immediately.

The song helped. People were fed who would have died.

And that's all fine, I was around in the 80s, I saw the footage, we all understood the urgency. My point is not about the song, or the well-meant sentiment. My point is that cheerfully drunk-singing at a party to a song about an actual real life famine, like it was 'Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer " or something is bloody weird.

Ah, got you. Completely agree.

No. It's not

It's pointing out the west's selfishness

Not suggesting that we should actually thank God they're starving and we're not

Agree with all this.

It's like a trigger warning actually triggers people.

Pointing out the west’s selfishness without using any word that explicitly or implicitly means anything of the sort? I don’t buy it and I’m sick of the whitewashing to gaslight people into thinking that “thank god it’s them and not you” is somehow a noble thing to express.

Well it sure as hell hasn’t been helping for decades. All it does now is perpetuate racist stereotypes and views. There is no excuse to keep singing it.

Pointing out the west’s selfishness without using any word that explicitly or implicitly means anything of the sort? I don’t buy it and I’m sick of the whitewashing to gaslight people into thinking that “thank god it’s them and not you” is somehow a noble thing to express.

It wasn't a noble thing to express. It was an expression of anger at people/governments in the "West" who were doing fuck all - the I'm alright Jack mentality.

Bold fail 🙄

I don't buy it.

Her can think what he likes and he can embrace his socialist worker ethics (although paying through the nose to attend an elite university hardly pegs him as the next Che Guevara)..... But behaving in a priggish and rude manor is just poor. If he wanted to share his unasked for views he should have waited for a less public moment and expressed it from how it made him feel "just to say mum it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable when...." Not told you how to behave (is he a budding misogynist too? Because it can go hand in hand for some on the left....)
Tell him if he wants a good old intellectual debate he should drop in on the feminist boards here and try telling the lovely ladies of Mumsnet where they're getting it all wrong....

If we're in the business now of criticising the long ago actions of people doing things that wouldn't be acceptable and which they wouldn't do if they were alive/active nowadays, where will we stop?

I draw a clear distinction between that and people who try to revive the old ways, e.g. swastika tattoos, Confederate flags, denying women basic human rights.

Dunno,. Suppose I just paid attention in my comprehension lessons and learnt about inference and deduction

Okay

So let's go back and ban it.

How many MORE people would have died and how many more today as the money is still being generated?

That better?

🥹. Aw my English comprehension is not as good as yours? So predictable.

Funny, “thank god it’s them and not you” doesn’t read as angry.
It isn’t sung angry in the song. 🎵

SparklyTurtle, fair enough.

I remember the anger mostly and how it galvanised people to do something about the horrific plight.

To slightly paraphrase Tim Minchin out of context,

"some of the songs that they sing have nice chords but the lyrics are dodgy".

Right enough, he might have been thinking of Band Aid when he wrote that line.

It's a problematic if very catchy song but it certainly wasn't the time and place for OP's son to raise the issue.

Or maybe accept the (previously rejected) edits from African and Black British artists to create a song that raises money without being racist?

@LoremIpsumCici

Every other line is leading up to Bono singing this solo and all the softness disappears as he sings it.

No, it’s still the same tone and volume. He almost sounds happy.

1985- Bono singing it live. Ff to 1:40 to get lead up to him singing it at 1:52

People infer and deduce things that aren't really there because they want to see it on a regular basis.

I always assumed the line to mean "count yourself lucky."

They could have just said that though couldn't they.

They didn't need to thank god for the Africans starving.

Isn't it Bono's part? I find it quite forceful and pointed