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To feel a bit miffed

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Sparklesandspandexgallore · 26/12/2024 10:12

I can’t decide if I am being a grumpy old sod or not,
Yesterday we hosted Christmas Day.
My 2 adult step children and a boyfriend ( whom I had never met,) my mother and mil plus me and dh.
We have a small kitchen and the table does not accommodate 7 people. This meant we had to borrow a table and extra chairs from mil. She doesn’t use this table herself. It comes to pieces and is ancient and is kept in many pieces in her garage. Dh has a back injury and is still awaiting the results of medical tests to get to the bottom of it. He is on strong medication to cope with the pain and is on reduced hours at work and reduced pay.
Anyway, we managed to erect the thing.
None of his family drive, so dh had to pick them up and bring them over to ours.
Dh always gives his DCs money for their birthday and Christmas, this is what they ask for.
One of his dc earns more than either dh or do. The other one, who is also in their late 20s does not work and is a perpetual student. They have never had a job, not even a Saturday job. Their ambition is to stay at university and somehow obtain their dream job which apparently has nothing to do with the actual degree they are studying. Their partner works part time in retail and was also a student for many years.
When they arrived they gave dh one present between them worth about £15. The boyfriend also gave dh a token present. They didn’t give me anything. Not even box of biscuits or a bottle of wine.
Nothing.
Neither my step children nor the boyfriend contributed one single item towards Christmas lunch.
Afterwards, they sat there and watched dh struggling to dismantle the ancient rickety table, until I told him to stop as I could see he was in pain. Mil asked dh if he was alright and I said no, he isn’t he has a bad back and cannot do this. At this point the boyfriend then got up and dismantled the table. The boyfriend and I then carried all the parts plus the chairs out of the room and loaded them back into the car. We do not have room in our house to store this table nor do I want it in my house.
I then washed the entire dishes by hand. Unfortunately we don’t have a dish washer. I dried everything myself and put everything away. I don’t expect mil or my mother to help, they deserve a rest. My mother did ask if I wanted her to help but she is elderly as is mil. They have done their share of this over the years.
However, I was annoyed at my step children, who just sat there without one of them offering to help.
I have DCs who are younger than my step children. They are not with us over the main Christmas holidays.
They bought dh a present- each I should add not one shared present. I know 100% that if my children had sat there exactly like my dsc did, dh would have been very annoyed and told me so.
Yesterday I was upset and thought they are ungrateful brats. How rude to turn up empty handed, dish out presents to their grandma and father and not me, then sit there as if they are paying guests.
Dh came into the kitchen and offered to help dry up but I told him to go back. Tbh I wanted to be on my own to seethe!
I haven’t criticised his family but I have told him that next year, I won’t be hosting.
To add, dh and his ex wife have been divorced a long time. She committed adultery. I was not the ow. They tell dh they like me and that I am a lot nicer than his ex partner. Well maybe the ex partner wasn’t so nice if they behaved like this.
Before Covid dh would drive twice a week to pick dsc up, bring them to ours and cook dinner for them. They never lifted a finger to help and I always made a point of telling dh I found this rude. They were adults then, not children.
When my dc did the same dh would moan.
I’m currently looking at flights for next year and contemplating going away with my DCs with or without dh.
I don’t know whether to tell dh how I feel but I know he will defend his DCs.
Thanks if you got to the end of this.
Dh is not lazy. He does a lot of chores. I won’t be ltb over this but Christ if he ever criticises my dcs I think my head will explode with what I have to say about his dcs.
Does anyone have tips on how to let this go and not seethe with resentment?
If I mention it I just know it will end in an almighty row with my telling sh exactly what I think if his dcs and it will not be pretty.
I don’t want it to spoilt today as we have great plans to go out.
Thanks if you have got to the end of this.

OP posts:
Emmz1510 · 30/12/2024 23:29

How old are your step children? I get it, they are behaving rudely, but sometimes young people are incredibly self centered and it can take time, experience and maturity to know what’s expected and what the etiquette is with these things. Are we talking mid to late twenties or younger, like late teens/early twenties? I’m minded to think they are just oblivious to things like how it’s the done thing to bring the host a gift and to offer to help clean up after. That’s at least partly on their parents for perhaps not modelling and teaching this stuff.
You can avoid stewing over this in future by making it clear what you expect, or ask OH to.
It’s reasonable to outright ask guests for family dinners to provide even a small dish or necessary items.
’Karen I’m going to delegate it to you bring some soft drinks and Kelly can you organise crackers and napkins?’. You can tailor this to whatever you feel is appropriate or even delegate a course to them eg asking them to bring a dessert each or someone brings a bottle of red and someone a bottle of white wine.
Then when it’s clean up time, ‘right folks I’ve done my bit in the kitchen, who’s washing and who’s drying?’.
And it might be worth asking their dad or another senior family member to have a quiet word and remind them that really it’s polite to bring the host a gift as well.
Maybe more time spent around your more polite kids would rub off on them?

Bearlady · 31/12/2024 08:52

I have adult step children like those. They are so annoying. No gifts for their dad, grandparents or me even though they receive. I think it says a lot about them. I also believe it is my husband and his family's fault for spoiling them. They have
been allowed to be takers. Fortunately they didn't visit us phew!

Ladybyrd · 31/12/2024 09:00

I don't expect dsc to wash up in this scenario. I would expect DH to though. I don't expect presents from them. Yes it's rude, but it is what it is. I don't feel obliged to accommodate anyone though and I would definitely be doing what I want next year.

DangerousAlchemy · 31/12/2024 09:45

I think you needed to say something. Bright and breezy. 'ok - can you help me wash up?' who can help dismantle this table as your DF has a bad back.' My own DC often don't think to offer to help unless I ask them. Your DSC probably just thought you were being in a bad mood/grumpy and had no idea why. If their Mum has never made them lift a finger they aren't likely to immediately offer to help in a home that isn't theirs. I agree it's shit and rude behaviour but just ranting to your DH about it (or to us) won't help change things for the future. You need to use your words. If kids grow up with just a dishwasher I swear they don't know how to wash up properly by hand. Hope it hasn't ruined your entire Christmas break OP.

Blanketssese · 31/12/2024 10:17

What I find unfathomable is how you find losers like your husband attractive and actually marry them.

He's a waster of a father who cares little for you.
How could you think he really cares for you and allow anyone treat you so poorly?

How can he allow you to skivvy for his thankless children and allow them behave like uncouth brats?

I certainly wouldn't find a man like that attractive. It would give me the complete ick.

He's a very selfish man, whose daughters are the image of him.

You deserve better, but have chosen very poorly.

Marchweshall · 31/12/2024 10:20

Why have you been a martyr. You should have asked them to come and help. They sound selfish and entitled.

Carezzamia · 31/12/2024 10:23

Of course yanbu, but what I don't understand from these kinds of threads is why no one speaks, jokes, to let their feelings known. Passivity and sulking only elongates the pain, and makes things bigger than they are. Maybe it's cultural. Why don't you just say x can you guys do the drying, y can you help your dad, I've got my hands full with cooking. Or oohhh nice gifts where is mine, or is this for both of us?

noclouds · 31/12/2024 10:28

I'm sorry but I think you are the problem for not speaking out. I absolutely hate martyrs. If your husband has adult children they can absolutely dismantle a table and wash up.

Ganthanga · 31/12/2024 13:28

Agree with many of the posts above. Stop playing the martyr! It never works. Being upfront in laying out expectations gives you an element of control rather than banging kitchen doors with a face like thunder.
Lose the attitude around your opinion of their lifestyles, that's not your battle. WhatsApp group before Xmas spelling out what they are expected to bring - wine, cheese, crackers, chocolates- forget " presents".
" Can you get here at x as we need to assemble the table before lunch".People rarely refuse to do something if directly asked but often feel awkward continously asking to help in someone else's home.
You need to talk to your DH when you are calm about the fact that they need to help out when they come over and he needs to nudge them if it's not happening.

Mememoo · 31/12/2024 14:56

Tbf if you told husband and mother u didn't want there help the kids were probably thinking u didn't want help, somebpeople are like that, I know everyone who knows me knows I don't like people helping especially when it comes to cleaning or anything to do with in the kitchen. As for the no present it's abit shitty id not dream of going to someone's house empty handed but not everyone sees it the same, do they ever buy you anything?

Lavenderblossoms · 31/12/2024 15:07

I would never ever turn up empty handed and leave my stepmum out, to watch as I hand presents out to others. That is rude and selfish and then to not offer to clean up...

Just don't do it again. If your husband moans then tell him he can do the cooking as you won't be.

Selfish shits, world is full of them now.

emmax1980 · 31/12/2024 15:46

I would have asked them to help or at least ask DH to ask them to help.

Createausername1970 · 31/12/2024 16:05

They are in a set pattern of behaviour that from your updates has been occurring for many years. Unless they have an epiphany, they won't change.

Your DH holds some responsibility for the behaviour of his adult children, and from your updates he has acknowledged that the behaviour of one of them is not acceptable.

You are not wrong to feel the way you do, but the situation won't just miraculously change itself.

If DH has now said he wants to go away at Christmas then it implies he doesn't necessarily disagree with you, but it's difficult for him to agree outright as there is probably a bit of shame and disappointment in the mix.

Talk to your DH, but don't go in all guns blazing, criticising them, as this will only end up with him defending them. Just say what upset you, and the fact that it was disrespectful to him as well as you. Give him the space to voice his feelings.

Then book that holiday.

rwalker · 31/12/2024 16:26

I might be the odd one out here but if I offer to host I don’t expect them to help

and If I went to someone’s house I wouldn’t offer to help

Ladybyrd · 31/12/2024 17:40

rwalker · 31/12/2024 16:26

I might be the odd one out here but if I offer to host I don’t expect them to help

and If I went to someone’s house I wouldn’t offer to help

Same.

Casperroonie · 31/12/2024 18:52

Littlefish · 26/12/2024 10:17

I don't understand why you didn't just say 'ok DSC please can you come and wash up as dh and I have done all the cooking'.

Nothing will ever change if you don't say that you're unhappy with things as they are.

Yes I'm baffled by this too. Just allocate jobs for them to do???

DeliciousApples · 31/12/2024 19:37

You have a DH problem.
That's why DSDs are getting away with things. His attitude.

Depends what the dynamic is with their mum. Since they split up has he been trying to be extra nice to her/them so he gets to see them?

Otherwise she would have bad mouthed him or denied access?

And if that's why he's a sap he probably doesn't know how to change now. Even though they are adults it's become a way of life.

I highly recommend dining out somewhere. No dishes. Retire to your own house dropping elderly relatives off on the way home. Peace and quiet.

Tell him that he can pay for his side and you'll pay for yours. All welcome. Whomever it may be.

Start saving for about £75 a head. Plus table gifts if you're giving them.

Waterbaby41 · 31/12/2024 22:43

Yes you are 'in a mood'! Stomping around, feeling put upon. Stop for a minute and do something different - ask for help! "Which one of you lovely people is helping out the table up/serve the meal/drinks/wash and dry up". Nothing will change if you don't.

MidnightEagle · 01/01/2025 23:52

rwalker · 31/12/2024 16:26

I might be the odd one out here but if I offer to host I don’t expect them to help

and If I went to someone’s house I wouldn’t offer to help

Same. And I would find it quite odd if I was invited to someone's house and expected to wash up!

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